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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,475 Views)
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Joe the Baker
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10 Sep 2017, 09:43 PM
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It feels like yesterday... I wish it was tomorrow.
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- 10 Sep 2017, 08:36 PM
As an aside, I've noticed the official Celtic site refers to games against the scum as the Glasgow derby, no more old firm nonsense - PL & co. mean business. Be interesting to see what the programme notes say when they come to CP end of December.
They've been using that expression since the huns died. It'll say Glasgow Derby, same as usual. They've been using it for a lot longer than that. I remember an article in the Celtic View ( maybe by Paul Cuddihy) during Strachans time explaining the reasons they would no longer use the term.
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Fearghas
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10 Sep 2017, 09:44 PM
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As an aside, I've noticed the official Celtic site refers to games against the scum as the Glasgow derby, no more old firm nonsense - PL & co. mean business. Be interesting to see what the programme notes say when they come to CP end of December.
They've been using that expression since the huns died. It'll say Glasgow Derby, same as usual. since lawwell has set phasers tae malky we should be lookng for something extra that says they're a new club with hee haw history and sfa league championships.
let's see what st. atement thinks about that.
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justinjest
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10 Sep 2017, 09:47 PM
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- Butters
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- Quiet Assasin
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- 10 Sep 2017, 05:40 PM
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Webster couldn't sign for another Scottish team without paying the transfer fee Hearts wanted. He signed for Wigan. Owned by the guy who owned JJB who had a massive contract with Rangers. At the first opportunity he was at loan at Rangers. All above board.
I'm not seeing the benefit though one worth going to those lengths. January 2007, with Celtic having all but retained the title, them out of the league & Scottish Cup they could have offered Webster a pre contract and had him for the new season. Not that it matters Webster stole a wage off them. If I remember correctly, under the rules at the time, oldco rangers would have to have paid Hearts for Webster as the move would have been between 2 Scottish teams, but he was out of contract and was allowed a cross border transfer for free - Wigan paid Hearts no money for Webster, then passed him onto oldco - no idea what the deal was, but there was definite shenannigans
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hocuspocus
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10 Sep 2017, 09:57 PM
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- brianlara67
- 10 Sep 2017, 09:33 PM
Can you imagine how a scandal such as this would have been handled by the English press if it were say Man Utd or Chelsea or Liverpool who did what Deidco did? They would be all over it like a rash competing to get to the truth and expose the FA.
In Scotland we have a cabal of hun sycophants closing ranks in as naked display of pure corruption as you could clearly ever come across. Vile and disgusting. . . . which is why it ain't going to go away
2017 and it is all out there, there is no media control when it comes to the facts and some time spent in researching. No matter what the Tom English and Davy Proven SMSM media glove puppets would have you believe.
patience.csc
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mallorcabhoy
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10 Sep 2017, 10:35 PM
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- pablo5
- 10 Sep 2017, 09:21 AM
You have to love the way the huns don't want anything to do with an inquiry.
Surely the damage done was to them? They're actually the victims here and as an ongoing financial basket case with potential for a second meltdown and they would be the main beneficiaries of a review of how they were run into the ground? Absolutely 100%
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Quiet Assasin
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10 Sep 2017, 10:59 PM
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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Webster couldn't sign for another Scottish team without paying the transfer fee Hearts wanted. He signed for Wigan. Owned by the guy who owned JJB who had a massive contract with Rangers. At the first opportunity he was at loan at Rangers. All above board.
I'm not seeing the benefit though one worth going to those lengths. January 2007, with Celtic having all but retained the title, them out of the league & Scottish Cup they could have offered Webster a pre contract and had him for the new season. Not that it matters Webster stole a wage off them. They got a player for free they had to pay for.
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Wee Ed KTF
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10 Sep 2017, 11:00 PM
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- brianlara67
- 10 Sep 2017, 09:33 PM
Can you imagine how a scandal such as this would have been handled by the English press if it were say Man Utd or Chelsea or Liverpool who did what Deidco did? They would be all over it like a rash competing to get to the truth and expose the FA.
In Scotland we have a cabal of hun sycophants closing ranks in as naked display of pure corruption as you could clearly ever come across. Vile and disgusting. It's almost as if a very few people in positions of authority and power in Scotland do not want the evidence, the facts and the truth revealed to the wider population. However, the internet bampots are beyond their control.
In April 2010, Phil Mac's story about Rangers (IL)'s EBT tax evasion scam was front-page of the News Of The World. After this, the SMSM ignored or ridiculed the story. Two years later, in May 2012, Mark Daly in the BBC TV documentary 'The Men Who Sold The Jerseys' finally caught up with Phil Mac's exclusive, by which time Rangers were in administration and destined for liquidation. The SMSM ridiculed the Internet Bampots...then Rangers died.
In the autumn of 2013, the Resolution 12 bhoys asked the question at the Celtic AGM about Rangers (IL) being awarded a UEFA License in 2011 when there was overdue tax payable. They were ridiculed by the SMSM as Internet Bampots, fantasists and paranoid delusionists. The SMSM ignored the story. However, in September 2017, Stewart Regan, the SFA's CEO, admitted publicly that there was a case to answer with regards to Resolution 12 and the matter was given to the SFA's Compliance Officer.
Persistence beats resistance. It just takes pressure......and time.
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Wasawelder
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10 Sep 2017, 11:11 PM
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- Broadsword
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:12 AM
- justinjest
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:00 AM
PL knows what he is doing, he is looking after our club, the SFA / SPL know he is coming - heads will roll and the scum will get their comeuppance - I love the way that both PL and the SFA have used the terminology oldco rangers - PL is making sure everyone knows oldco died in 2012 and the rangers are a new team - SFA seem to confirm this - going for 55 my arse
I believe your arse is a more realistic target for them than the much heralded and nonsensical '55'. You could argue that they are correct in saying that they're going for 55.
They're just 54 short at the moment.
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CHR15
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10 Sep 2017, 11:13 PM
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I'll take 2 of those feckin sheep giraffes please
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- Wasawelder
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- Broadsword
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- justinjest
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PL knows what he is doing, he is looking after our club, the SFA / SPL know he is coming - heads will roll and the scum will get their comeuppance - I love the way that both PL and the SFA have used the terminology oldco rangers - PL is making sure everyone knows oldco died in 2012 and the rangers are a new team - SFA seem to confirm this - going for 55 my arse
I believe your arse is a more realistic target for them than the much heralded and nonsensical '55'.
You could argue that they are correct in saying that they're going for 55. They're just 54 short at the moment. 55 short
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jim62
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10 Sep 2017, 11:16 PM
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up on the roof!!
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- Broadsword
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:12 AM
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You could argue that they are correct in saying that they're going for 55. They're just 54 short at the moment.
55 short They're 54 short of going for 55
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mcgeady
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10 Sep 2017, 11:20 PM
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- mikebhoy
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:14 PM
- Butters
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:10 PM
- Otis B Driftwood
- 10 Sep 2017, 10:20 AM
Just had a thought re. Souness and Wattie: woudn't the English FA have some jurisdiction if their purchases from Deidco were found to be hooky? 
Smith wasn't the manager of Rangers when Souness bought all of these players except from Walters. He also as far as I can remember signed no players at Everton from them either. The Boumsong steal stinks, in 2004 he was highly sought after like his pal Mexes and Cisse, but he signed for Rangers. He could have played in England or Italy but plumped for Scotland. He was good up here until Mark De Vries bullied him for Hearts, vaguely remember Auxerre playing them and their striker made him look mince.
Souness bought a fair few Huns at Blackburn did he not - Ferguson, Kisinishvilli, Tugay all spring to mind, think there might have been more.
after murrays sons wedding there was an article in evening times with picture of murray and about 5 ex rangers managers. murray was boasting about how they may no longer manage the club but are still all on friendly terms with him. on souness, he is quoted as saying
'graeme had continued to help rangers since he left by buying players. He is still a fan'
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CHR15
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10 Sep 2017, 11:31 PM
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I'll take 2 of those feckin sheep giraffes please
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- 10 Sep 2017, 11:11 PM
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55 short
They're 54 short of going for 55 Hoy don't come in here with your pedantry and facts
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kellybhoy
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11 Sep 2017, 12:32 AM
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- 9 Sep 2017, 06:32 PM
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Nope, you are confusing judicial review with independent review. Both the SPFL and the SFA have refused to seek a judicial review of the LNS findings. The SPFL however are pursuing an independent review of the whole business of how oldco's tax avoidance/evasion schemes was handled by the authorities, what lessons are to be learned, and what changes need to be made etc. The SFA have declined the invitation to take part in such an independent review. Celtic have been pushing the SFA to reverse this decision and participate in this independent review. The independent review, as I understand it, would not have the power to overturn the LNS finding, nor indeed would it have any sanctioning powers at all. However, it could well turn up facts and evidence that would strengthen the case for a judicial review of LNS, and I think this is what Celtic are hoping for, and maybe expecting. So what's the distinction between judicial and independent then? Judicial review has power to overturn a decision by a legal entity (e.g. tribunal). Independent review is just an enquiry conducted by an independent body that can only make recommendations.
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johnny88
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11 Sep 2017, 02:36 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepare the flat-earth society.
#hunfreesince2014csc
one of the guys I played football with is a solicitor, his wife is a liquidation specialist solicitor - I tried to have a discussion with him about them being a new club, he refused to accept that was the case and to this day maintains it's the same club, no evidence to back it up - just fingers in ears lalalala
I was at a training event a number of years ago now and the solicitor presenting it said it would take years to unravel everything about the liquidation of Rangers. No idea what club he supported, if any, despite having been at quite a few meetings with him over the years. There were quite a few other solicitors who looked extremely unhappy when it was brought up despite it being wholly relevant to the topic being discussed and one of the highest profile insolvency events in Scottish legal history.
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No idea what club he supported, if any, despite having been at quite a few meetings with him over the years.
Simple solution: "After so many years" Eh pardon me what team do you support.
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11 Sep 2017, 03:28 AM
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Webster couldn't sign for another Scottish team without paying the transfer fee Hearts wanted. He signed for Wigan. Owned by the guy who owned JJB who had a massive contract with Rangers. At the first opportunity he was at loan at Rangers. All above board.
I'm not seeing the benefit though one worth going to those lengths. January 2007, with Celtic having all but retained the title, them out of the league & Scottish Cup they could have offered Webster a pre contract and had him for the new season. Not that it matters Webster stole a wage off them. They couldnt have had him free in the summer. He would've still had 12 months on his Hearts contract plus they weren't cross border which I'm sure was some sort of reason.
They got him for free instead of paying for him, months earlier than they could've signed him otherwise. Wigan owner got a massive tie in deal with JJB & Rangers out of it. Helped both sides.
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nakasboots
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11 Sep 2017, 04:13 AM
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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- Timdom come
- 10 Sep 2017, 08:09 AM
- Auldyin
- 9 Sep 2017, 11:55 PM
Reading back a couple of points need a response.
First Murphio and others made some complimentary comments about myself which I will pass on to the other Requisitioners all of whom played a significant part in keeping the issue alive. Thank you.
JJ has set out how things unfolded on Res12 since the last Celtic AGM in 2016 and since then Celtic have shown that once the constraints that bound them had gone (frustrating as that was for the Requisitioners who knew what was likely to emerge at the CW trial) Celtic have acted strongly to try and restore trust in the integrity of Scottish Football.
On the Reggan e mail of 7th December it is authentic and it reveals, as does an earlier one of Sept 2011 that the SFA are not in the clear as regards their part in both the granting then monitoring stages during 2011.
We are aware that SFA may attempt to pin all the blame on RFC but there is still enough in the locker to cover the part the SFA played not just in 2011 but subsequent years.
If I've missed anything I'll look in at some point later to answer.
Thanks for continuing updates Auldyin! Hear hear.
I've said more than once the board are lily-livered aresholes in respect of this.
Not for the first time, it's a wrong call.
As for Auldyin and those on the case,
Your work has not gone unnoticed by the average Joe, as much (like Murph's Shawshank comparison) as it seemed you where doing nothing but bashing rocks.
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donnybhoy
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11 Sep 2017, 07:45 AM
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I was at a training event a number of years ago now and the solicitor presenting it said it would take years to unravel everything about the liquidation of Rangers. No idea what club he supported, if any, despite having been at quite a few meetings with him over the years. There were quite a few other solicitors who looked extremely unhappy when it was brought up despite it being wholly relevant to the topic being discussed and one of the highest profile insolvency events in Scottish legal history.
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No idea what club he supported, if any, despite having been at quite a few meetings with him over the years.
Simple solution: "After so many years" Eh pardon me what team do you support. If you know the guy well then yes. I didn't and I wouldn't. In the meetings and courses I attended that would have been wholly inappropriate and unprofessional.
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11 Sep 2017, 07:53 AM
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If the SFA continue with their refusal to cooperate could Celtic withhold their players turning out for the national team in important WC qualifying matches?
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11 Sep 2017, 07:56 AM
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....give us a glimmer......
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- 10 Sep 2017, 09:33 PM
Can you imagine how a scandal such as this would have been handled by the English press if it were say Man Utd or Chelsea or Liverpool who did what Deidco did? They would be all over it like a rash competing to get to the truth and expose the FA.
In Scotland we have a cabal of hun sycophants closing ranks in as naked display of pure corruption as you could clearly ever come across. Vile and disgusting.
It's almost as if a very few people in positions of authority and power in Scotland do not want the evidence, the facts and the truth revealed to the wider population. However, the internet bampots are beyond their control. In April 2010, Phil Mac's story about Rangers (IL)'s EBT tax evasion scam was front-page of the News Of The World. After this, the SMSM ignored or ridiculed the story. Two years later, in May 2012, Mark Daly in the BBC TV documentary 'The Men Who Sold The Jerseys' finally caught up with Phil Mac's exclusive, by which time Rangers were in administration and destined for liquidation. The SMSM ridiculed the Internet Bampots...then Rangers died. In the autumn of 2013, the Resolution 12 bhoys asked the question at the Celtic AGM about Rangers (IL) being awarded a UEFA License in 2011 when there was overdue tax payable. They were ridiculed by the SMSM as Internet Bampots, fantasists and paranoid delusionists. The SMSM ignored the story. However, in September 2017, Stewart Regan, the SFA's CEO, admitted publicly that there was a case to answer with regards to Resolution 12 and the matter was given to the SFA's Compliance Officer. Persistence beats resistance. It just takes pressure......and time. Very good points. I hope you are right.
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11 Sep 2017, 08:21 AM
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Can you imagine how a scandal such as this would have been handled by the English press if it were say Man Utd or Chelsea or Liverpool who did what Deidco did? They would be all over it like a rash competing to get to the truth and expose the FA.
In Scotland we have a cabal of hun sycophants closing ranks in as naked display of pure corruption as you could clearly ever come across. Vile and disgusting.
It's almost as if a very few people in positions of authority and power in Scotland do not want the evidence, the facts and the truth revealed to the wider population. However, the internet bampots are beyond their control. In April 2010, Phil Mac's story about Rangers (IL)'s EBT tax evasion scam was front-page of the News Of The World. After this, the SMSM ignored or ridiculed the story. Two years later, in May 2012, Mark Daly in the BBC TV documentary 'The Men Who Sold The Jerseys' finally caught up with Phil Mac's exclusive, by which time Rangers were in administration and destined for liquidation. The SMSM ridiculed the Internet Bampots...then Rangers died. In the autumn of 2013, the Resolution 12 bhoys asked the question at the Celtic AGM about Rangers (IL) being awarded a UEFA License in 2011 when there was overdue tax payable. They were ridiculed by the SMSM as Internet Bampots, fantasists and paranoid delusionists. The SMSM ignored the story. However, in September 2017, Stewart Regan, the SFA's CEO, admitted publicly that there was a case to answer with regards to Resolution 12 and the matter was given to the SFA's Compliance Officer. Persistence beats resistance. It just takes pressure......and time.
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