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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,480 Views)
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OverAndOver
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10 Sep 2017, 12:13 AM
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- murphio
- 9 Sep 2017, 05:33 PM
- Seneca
- 9 Sep 2017, 05:30 PM
- murphio
- 9 Sep 2017, 04:52 PM
There is a precedent that this material is admissible - from the Royal Courts of Justice, no less. Would the SFA argue that they are a higher authority than the High Court? Charlotte Fakes admissible in trial
Even if they are 'admissible' - can they be proven as belonging to Regan? still a few pages to catch up so please forgive if already covered
as a comparison
the e-mail trail at the time seemed to have a Mr H Dallas of Bonkle. Wishaw bang to rights
i would imagine it would be the same outcome in this case
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Bhoyracer67
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10 Sep 2017, 12:20 AM
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- murphio
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:10 AM
- Auldyin
- 9 Sep 2017, 11:55 PM
Reading back a couple of points need a response.
First Murphio and others made some complimentary comments about myself which I will pass on to the other Requisitioners all of whom played a significant part in keeping the issue alive. Thank you.
JJ has set out how things unfolded on Res12 since the last Celtic AGM in 2016 and since then Celtic have shown that once the constraints that bound them had gone (frustrating as that was for the Requisitioners who knew what was likely to emerge at the CW trial) Celtic have acted strongly to try and restore trust in the integrity of Scottish Football.
On the Reggan e mail of 7th December it is authentic and it reveals, as does an earlier one of Sept 2011 that the SFA are not in the clear as regards their part in both the granting then monitoring stages during 2011.
We are aware that SFA may attempt to pin all the blame on RFC but there is still enough in the locker to cover the part the SFA played not just in 2011 but subsequent years.
If I've missed anything I'll look in at some point later to answer.
Keep digging old chap. All you have needed is time, a rock hammer worn down to the nub and a massive poster of Rita Hayworth. Dont forget the soapstone. this is chess were talking about here.
check mate.
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TractorPlovdiv
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10 Sep 2017, 12:22 AM
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- 10 Sep 2017, 12:20 AM
- murphio
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:10 AM
- Auldyin
- 9 Sep 2017, 11:55 PM
Reading back a couple of points need a response.
First Murphio and others made some complimentary comments about myself which I will pass on to the other Requisitioners all of whom played a significant part in keeping the issue alive. Thank you.
JJ has set out how things unfolded on Res12 since the last Celtic AGM in 2016 and since then Celtic have shown that once the constraints that bound them had gone (frustrating as that was for the Requisitioners who knew what was likely to emerge at the CW trial) Celtic have acted strongly to try and restore trust in the integrity of Scottish Football.
On the Reggan e mail of 7th December it is authentic and it reveals, as does an earlier one of Sept 2011 that the SFA are not in the clear as regards their part in both the granting then monitoring stages during 2011.
We are aware that SFA may attempt to pin all the blame on RFC but there is still enough in the locker to cover the part the SFA played not just in 2011 but subsequent years.
If I've missed anything I'll look in at some point later to answer.
Keep digging old chap. All you have needed is time, a rock hammer worn down to the nub and a massive poster of Rita Hayworth.
Dont forget the soapstone. this is chess were talking about here. check mate. ..and horse apples (though the SFA seem to be supplying similar).
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OverAndOver
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10 Sep 2017, 12:34 AM
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- Auldyin
- 9 Sep 2017, 11:55 PM
Reading back a couple of points need a response.
First Murphio and others made some complimentary comments about myself which I will pass on to the other Requisitioners all of whom played a significant part in keeping the issue alive. Thank you.
JJ has set out how things unfolded on Res12 since the last Celtic AGM in 2016 and since then Celtic have shown that once the constraints that bound them had gone (frustrating as that was for the Requisitioners who knew what was likely to emerge at the CW trial) Celtic have acted strongly to try and restore trust in the integrity of Scottish Football.
On the Reggan e mail of 7th December it is authentic and it reveals, as does an earlier one of Sept 2011 that the SFA are not in the clear as regards their part in both the granting then monitoring stages during 2011.
We are aware that SFA may attempt to pin all the blame on RFC but there is still enough in the locker to cover the part the SFA played not just in 2011 but subsequent years.
If I've missed anything I'll look in at some point later to answer. On the Regan e mail of 7th December it is authentic and it reveals, as does an earlier one of Sept 2011 that the SFA are not in the clear as regards their part in both the granting then monitoring stages during 2011.
This makes we warm and fuzzy
can i also just add my admiration for the sheer tenacity and extreme patience you and the other guys have show over the past few years and hopefully you can all have your well deserved moment in the sun as the pillars of corruption that are holding up the SFA start to crumble and then finally disappear into oblivion.
Not only have you done the Celtic supporters proud but also for all genuine football fans in all of the teams in the Scottish Leagues outwith the pavement pirates, all, or nearly all, in the scarecrow stage of verminous trampdom as someone way before their time eloquently put it.
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Otis B Driftwood
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10 Sep 2017, 12:34 AM
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Could this end with the Hollywood dénouement where the good guys win against the odds after a century-long institutional sectarian bias?
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jimthetim73
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10 Sep 2017, 12:54 AM
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- Otis B Driftwood
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:34 AM
Could this end with the Hollywood dénouement where the good guys win against the odds after a century-long institutional sectarian bias? The good guys always win........eventually
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Fearghas
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10 Sep 2017, 12:59 AM
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- Samson67
- 9 Sep 2017, 08:17 PM
- Dubz
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- Samson67
- 9 Sep 2017, 12:49 PM
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Did you get the refund on yer season book?
I e-mailed celtic and asked for the money to be in my account for this weekend's activities...but said money never appeared... I can't believe everyone on here is gobbling all this up.. Are you not allowed to have a different opinion on this forum?? The release of these letters seems timed conveniently to deflect from us no having a centre back for Tuesday. But it's cool, pedro's fighting the SFA when it comes to the board i'm quite cynical and one of their biggest critics.
but you are just talking pish.
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ticcy_paper
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10 Sep 2017, 01:09 AM
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- tinytim81
- 9 Sep 2017, 03:29 PM
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I agree, except it is the SPFL that is sticking to its guns on the LNS findings. The SFA has actually suggested that the evidence in the CW trial seems to contradict the LNS finding that there was no competitive advantage. All somewhat confusing (maybe deliberately so?)
Doubt an independent review would do anything at all to examine the findings of LNS. Only the processes which took us to this point, with recommendations for the future to ensure it doesn't happen again. Every chance it would be a disappointment to a lot of people. Which one of the rags do you write for? Serious question.
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Fearghas
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10 Sep 2017, 01:10 AM
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huge appreciation for auldyin for your perseverance and determination.
you and your colleagues' hard work is about to pay off. thank you.
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Jack Thaler
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10 Sep 2017, 02:09 AM
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- geobhoy66
- 9 Sep 2017, 08:49 PM
- Samson67
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- Dubz
- 9 Sep 2017, 08:07 PM
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I e-mailed celtic and asked for the money to be in my account for this weekend's activities...but said money never appeared... I can't believe everyone on here is gobbling all this up.. Are you not allowed to have a different opinion on this forum?? The release of these letters seems timed conveniently to deflect from us no having a centre back for Tuesday. But it's cool, pedro's fighting the SFA
so boyata being injured is the reason peter lawwell has asked the governing body of scottish football for feedback on the biggest sporting scandal in history in this country ? Aye ok There was a 'Celtic fan' on the RTC blog back in 2011 who claimed that the whole tax case fixation was Lawwell's way of distracting Celtic fans from their team slipping 15 points behind Rangers in the league.
Sure it's a different poster.
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kellybhoy
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10 Sep 2017, 02:14 AM
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- pads99
- 9 Sep 2017, 06:27 PM
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Good point!
Whether or not they gained a competitive advantage or not is a red herring. They fielded players who were not properly registered so any games any improperly registered players played should be forfeited 3-0. Did Legia gain any advantage when that player came on at the end against us? Nope. He was ineligible to play and that is all that matters. Another good point!
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dansyerman
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10 Sep 2017, 02:27 AM
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- murphio
- 10 Sep 2017, 12:10 AM
Keep digging old chap. All you have needed is time, a rock hammer worn down to the nub and a massive poster of Rita Hayworth.
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kellybhoy
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10 Sep 2017, 02:59 AM
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- 9 Sep 2017, 06:32 PM
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I agree, except it is the SPFL that is sticking to its guns on the LNS findings. The SFA has actually suggested that the evidence in the CW trial seems to contradict the LNS finding that there was no competitive advantage. All somewhat confusing (maybe deliberately so?)
Not really. If the judicial review concludes that title stripping should have been the appropriate response then the pressure simply switches from the SFA to the SPFL to do the right thing. As I understand it, the SPFL have said yes to a judicial review. The SFA are the ones digging their heels in. Nope, you are confusing judicial review with independent review. Both the SPFL and the SFA have refused to seek a judicial review of the LNS findings. The SPFL however are pursuing an independent review of the whole business of how oldco's tax avoidance/evasion schemes was handled by the authorities, what lessons are to be learned, and what changes need to be made etc. The SFA have declined the invitation to take part in such an independent review. Celtic have been pushing the SFA to reverse this decision and participate in this independent review. The independent review, as I understand it, would not have the power to overturn the LNS finding, nor indeed would it have any sanctioning powers at all. However, it could well turn up facts and evidence that would strengthen the case for a judicial review of LNS, and I think this is what Celtic are hoping for, and maybe expecting.
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aldo
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10 Sep 2017, 07:57 AM
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And that's the way we like it...
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Hugh McDonald was on Off The Ball last night, only caught the start and he eloquently explained his belief in the need for an independent enquiry (he maybe said judicial review). Was the rest of the programme worth listening to? Had to split as he was just speculating on a scenario where this affair leads to a power grab by SPFL to run Scottish football, that national associations Europe-wide have become token offices, with the respective leagues wielding the power. An interesting point, I'd have liked to heard more.
Edited by aldo, 10 Sep 2017, 07:59 AM.
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Carnanreagh
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10 Sep 2017, 08:05 AM
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Ex carrot.
Hair today, gone tomorrow That deserved more recognition
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Timdom come
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10 Sep 2017, 08:09 AM
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- 9 Sep 2017, 11:55 PM
Reading back a couple of points need a response.
First Murphio and others made some complimentary comments about myself which I will pass on to the other Requisitioners all of whom played a significant part in keeping the issue alive. Thank you.
JJ has set out how things unfolded on Res12 since the last Celtic AGM in 2016 and since then Celtic have shown that once the constraints that bound them had gone (frustrating as that was for the Requisitioners who knew what was likely to emerge at the CW trial) Celtic have acted strongly to try and restore trust in the integrity of Scottish Football.
On the Reggan e mail of 7th December it is authentic and it reveals, as does an earlier one of Sept 2011 that the SFA are not in the clear as regards their part in both the granting then monitoring stages during 2011.
We are aware that SFA may attempt to pin all the blame on RFC but there is still enough in the locker to cover the part the SFA played not just in 2011 but subsequent years.
If I've missed anything I'll look in at some point later to answer. Thanks for continuing updates Auldyin!
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10 Sep 2017, 08:32 AM
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- Otis B Driftwood
- 9 Sep 2017, 07:41 PM
How millions did Souness put their way in his stints at Blackburn, Liverpool and Newcastle? I reckon at least 20: the fees paid for Ferguson, Tugay, Walters, Boumsong easily surpass that.
Khisansvilli too? Souness was manager of Newcastle when Blackburn signed Khizanishvilli
He signed that tit Amoruso for Blackburn
Edited by Butters, 10 Sep 2017, 08:35 AM.
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10 Sep 2017, 08:40 AM
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How millions did Souness put their way in his stints at Blackburn, Liverpool and Newcastle? I reckon at least 20: the fees paid for Ferguson, Tugay, Walters, Boumsong easily surpass that.
Khisansvilli too?
Souness was manager of Newcastle when Blackburn signed Khizanishvilli He signed that tit Amoruso for Blackburn £8mill for Boumsong who was available on a free 6 months earlier
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10 Sep 2017, 08:50 AM
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Souness was manager of Newcastle when Blackburn signed Khizanishvilli He signed that tit Amoruso for Blackburn
£8mill for Boumsong who was available on a free 6 months earlier The MSM didn't half big Boumsong up though.
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10 Sep 2017, 09:09 AM
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- 10 Sep 2017, 12:10 AM
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- 9 Sep 2017, 11:55 PM
Reading back a couple of points need a response.
First Murphio and others made some complimentary comments about myself which I will pass on to the other Requisitioners all of whom played a significant part in keeping the issue alive. Thank you.
JJ has set out how things unfolded on Res12 since the last Celtic AGM in 2016 and since then Celtic have shown that once the constraints that bound them had gone (frustrating as that was for the Requisitioners who knew what was likely to emerge at the CW trial) Celtic have acted strongly to try and restore trust in the integrity of Scottish Football.
On the Reggan e mail of 7th December it is authentic and it reveals, as does an earlier one of Sept 2011 that the SFA are not in the clear as regards their part in both the granting then monitoring stages during 2011.
We are aware that SFA may attempt to pin all the blame on RFC but there is still enough in the locker to cover the part the SFA played not just in 2011 but subsequent years.
If I've missed anything I'll look in at some point later to answer.
Keep digging old chap. All you have needed is time, a rock hammer worn down to the nub and a massive poster of Rita Hayworth. Good one. My favorite movie although Raquel Welch would be my poster of choice.
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