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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,483 Views)
kellybhoy
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tinytim81
9 Sep 2017, 03:29 PM
murphio
9 Sep 2017, 02:52 PM
lubolubo
9 Sep 2017, 02:38 PM

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Seems pretty pointless if that is the case. So the 'review' finds there WAS a sporting advantage while finding Sandy Bryson's evidence re registrations was flawed but says, eh sorry, there is nothing we can do about it now?
I would assume that if a review did come to that conclusion then it would be basically impossible for the SFA to stick to their guns with the Nimmo Smith findings. It technically wouldn't make those findings null and void but it would be very difficult for them not to overturn it.

At least that's what I assumed. Auldyin is the best person to ask on pretty much all of this.
I agree, except it is the SPFL that is sticking to its guns on the LNS findings. The SFA has actually suggested that the evidence in the CW trial seems to contradict the LNS finding that there was no competitive advantage. All somewhat confusing (maybe deliberately so?)
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steviefrombelfast
9 Sep 2017, 03:33 PM
Milton
9 Sep 2017, 12:11 PM
In the SFA's own words:

"Lord Nimmo Smith found that Oldco had not achieved a sporting advantage by utilising the EBT Scheme. The report of evidence given by Sir David Murray at the Craig Whyte trial appears to contradict that finding"

But no interest in a review. :lol:
A very important line. Llke the spfl the sfa are now saying here that it looks like the Huns cheated. The spfl line was that it was only the sfa that could do anything about it now. Here the sfa are saying it is only the spfl that can do anything about it.

The subtext here is that Regan and Doncaster are trying to throw each other under the bus.
That line on Regan should result in immediate stripping of any Scottish Cups won by the old Huns during the cheating years. LNS doesn't apply to SFA competitions
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pads99
9 Sep 2017, 06:27 PM
steviefrombelfast
9 Sep 2017, 03:33 PM
Milton
9 Sep 2017, 12:11 PM
In the SFA's own words:

"Lord Nimmo Smith found that Oldco had not achieved a sporting advantage by utilising the EBT Scheme. The report of evidence given by Sir David Murray at the Craig Whyte trial appears to contradict that finding"

But no interest in a review. :lol:
A very important line. Llke the spfl the sfa are now saying here that it looks like the Huns cheated. The spfl line was that it was only the sfa that could do anything about it now. Here the sfa are saying it is only the spfl that can do anything about it.

The subtext here is that Regan and Doncaster are trying to throw each other under the bus.
That line on Regan should result in immediate stripping of any Scottish Cups won by the old Huns during the cheating years. LNS doesn't apply to SFA competitions
Good point! :thumbsup:
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kellybhoy
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9 Sep 2017, 03:29 PM
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9 Sep 2017, 02:52 PM

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I would assume that if a review did come to that conclusion then it would be basically impossible for the SFA to stick to their guns with the Nimmo Smith findings. It technically wouldn't make those findings null and void but it would be very difficult for them not to overturn it.

At least that's what I assumed. Auldyin is the best person to ask on pretty much all of this.
I agree, except it is the SPFL that is sticking to its guns on the LNS findings. The SFA has actually suggested that the evidence in the CW trial seems to contradict the LNS finding that there was no competitive advantage. All somewhat confusing (maybe deliberately so?)
Not really. If the judicial review concludes that title stripping should have been the appropriate response then the pressure simply switches from the SFA to the SPFL to do the right thing.

As I understand it, the SPFL have said yes to a judicial review. The SFA are the ones digging their heels in.
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kellybhoy
9 Sep 2017, 06:30 PM
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9 Sep 2017, 06:27 PM
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9 Sep 2017, 03:33 PM

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That line on Regan should result in immediate stripping of any Scottish Cups won by the old Huns during the cheating years. LNS doesn't apply to SFA competitions
Good point! :thumbsup:
Whether or not they gained a competitive advantage or not is a red herring. They fielded players who were not properly registered so any games any improperly registered players played should be forfeited 3-0. Did Legia gain any advantage when that player came on at the end against us? Nope. He was ineligible to play and that is all that matters.
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9 Sep 2017, 02:21 PM
McLaughlin claiming to have identified fans who are sick and tired of all this and want to "move on". Doesn't mention that they are all Rangers/Sevco fans
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Rangers Tax-Case
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Remember tax scams are not the end of Rangers' corruption. There is also the evidence of bribery in transfer dealings. @scottishfa

Maybe I have missed this but anyone let me know what this is all about?
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ronny_is_not_da_man
9 Sep 2017, 07:32 PM
Rangers Tax-Case
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Remember tax scams are not the end of Rangers' corruption. There is also the evidence of bribery in transfer dealings. @scottishfa

Maybe I have missed this but anyone let me know what this is all about?
Souness had an EBT while Blackburn manager.

Smith had an EBT while unemployed.
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remy mcswain
8 Sep 2017, 01:39 PM
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8 Sep 2017, 11:32 AM
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8 Sep 2017, 11:27 AM
I see johnjames has ventured that it was Darryl Broadhoof that leaked the letter. :notmissingthis:

Probably just a co-incidence that he was in the Sportsound studio on the Wednesday.
Broadfoot would have leaked the letter to a Hun hack at a Sevco cheer-leading tabloid that would have presented the article in a Sevco-sympathetic way

Not Ewing Grahame at The Times

John James is, as usual, talking bollocks

Edit to add: Broadfoot has undoubtedly been sent out to fire-fight on behalf of the SFA
Celtic did not leak the letter. Someone at the SFA did. Whether that was Broadfoot or not I have no idea. I also have no idea why Ewing Grahame was the SFA's preferred mouthpiece.

I think it would be safe to assume that Celtic will give a response to yesterday's SFA stitch up once we get the Hamilton game out of the way.
You called it right.

When did Rangers take the SFA to court? Why? Outcome?
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ronny_is_not_da_man
9 Sep 2017, 07:32 PM
Rangers Tax-Case
Rangers Tax-Case @rangerstaxcase
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Remember tax scams are not the end of Rangers' corruption. There is also the evidence of bribery in transfer dealings. @scottishfa

Maybe I have missed this but anyone let me know what this is all about?
I'm guessing managers at other clubs (Newcastle/Blackburn) getting EBT payments and then giving Rangers massive transfer fees.

It's not like David Murray said on the telly that said manager 'helps' them, or anything...
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mallorcabhoy
9 Sep 2017, 07:36 PM
remy mcswain
8 Sep 2017, 01:39 PM
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8 Sep 2017, 11:32 AM

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Celtic did not leak the letter. Someone at the SFA did. Whether that was Broadfoot or not I have no idea. I also have no idea why Ewing Grahame was the SFA's preferred mouthpiece.

I think it would be safe to assume that Celtic will give a response to yesterday's SFA stitch up once we get the Hamilton game out of the way.
You called it right.

When did Rangers take the SFA to court? Why? Outcome?
Sevco took them to court over a transfer embargo and got it overturned.
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How millions did Souness put their way in his stints at Blackburn, Liverpool and Newcastle? I reckon at least 20: the fees paid for Ferguson, Tugay, Walters, Boumsong easily surpass that.
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Quiet Assasin
9 Sep 2017, 07:37 PM
ronny_is_not_da_man
9 Sep 2017, 07:32 PM
Rangers Tax-Case
Rangers Tax-Case @rangerstaxcase
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4m
Remember tax scams are not the end of Rangers' corruption. There is also the evidence of bribery in transfer dealings. @scottishfa

Maybe I have missed this but anyone let me know what this is all about?
I'm guessing managers at other clubs (Newcastle/Blackburn) getting EBT payments and then giving Rangers massive transfer fees.

It's not like David Murray said on the telly that said manager 'helps' them, or anything...
There is also evidence they cheated Everton out of a sell on fee for Michael Ball.
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More FTT transcript from Rangers Tax Case. This time McClelland:

https://twitter.com/rangerstaxcase/status/906559325987942405
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Cheers guys.
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pads99
9 Sep 2017, 06:27 PM
steviefrombelfast
9 Sep 2017, 03:33 PM
Milton
9 Sep 2017, 12:11 PM
In the SFA's own words:

"Lord Nimmo Smith found that Oldco had not achieved a sporting advantage by utilising the EBT Scheme. The report of evidence given by Sir David Murray at the Craig Whyte trial appears to contradict that finding"

But no interest in a review. :lol:
A very important line. Llke the spfl the sfa are now saying here that it looks like the Huns cheated. The spfl line was that it was only the sfa that could do anything about it now. Here the sfa are saying it is only the spfl that can do anything about it.

The subtext here is that Regan and Doncaster are trying to throw each other under the bus.
That line on Regan should result in immediate stripping of any Scottish Cups won by the old Huns during the cheating years. LNS doesn't apply to SFA competitions
I would agree and if the spfl were to strip the titles the sfa would strip the cups. But neither of them want to be first.
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Samson67
9 Sep 2017, 12:49 PM
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9 Sep 2017, 12:40 PM
anyone still think our Board aren't on this?

this is great news . Hopefully other clubs will back us.
Yes..me

This is just appeasement to keep fans onside
Where's the letters to UEFA ?
Where's the letters to the European court of arbitration of sport?
Where's the legal action??
:lmao:

Did you get the refund on yer season book?
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9 Sep 2017, 08:07 PM
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9 Sep 2017, 12:49 PM
fatboab
9 Sep 2017, 12:40 PM
anyone still think our Board aren't on this?

this is great news . Hopefully other clubs will back us.
Yes..me

This is just appeasement to keep fans onside
Where's the letters to UEFA ?
Where's the letters to the European court of arbitration of sport?
Where's the legal action??
:lmao:

Did you get the refund on yer season book?
I e-mailed celtic and asked for the money to be in my account for this weekend's activities...but said money never appeared...


I can't believe everyone on here is gobbling all this up..
Are you not allowed to have a different opinion on this forum??

The release of these letters seems timed conveniently to deflect from us no having a centre back for Tuesday. But it's cool, pedro's fighting the SFA
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5 years and lawwell has wrote a few letters and people are fawning over this????
On here I seem to be the only cynic...but from speaking with my associates.. I'm not the only 1 in the support
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Dubz
9 Sep 2017, 08:07 PM
Samson67
9 Sep 2017, 12:49 PM
fatboab
9 Sep 2017, 12:40 PM
anyone still think our Board aren't on this?

this is great news . Hopefully other clubs will back us.
Yes..me

This is just appeasement to keep fans onside
Where's the letters to UEFA ?
Where's the letters to the European court of arbitration of sport?
Where's the legal action??
:lmao:

Did you get the refund on yer season book?
Celtic have to play the game and go through the proper channels first.
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