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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,484 Views)
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Tubbytubthumper
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9 Sep 2017, 04:57 PM
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- murphio
- 9 Sep 2017, 04:52 PM
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Dirty corrupt bastards!!!  Though because this is obviously leaked or stolen communication it would be difficult to see how it could be used in an official capacity. surely it depends on who/how it was leaked I would think
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andy6
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9 Sep 2017, 05:00 PM
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Dirty corrupt bastards!!!  Though because this is obviously leaked or stolen communication it would be difficult to see how it could be used in an official capacity.
surely it depends on who/how it was leaked I would think i think it was leaked as part of the charlotte fakes stuff a couple of years ago
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Swarfega
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9 Sep 2017, 05:01 PM
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Dirty corrupt bastards!!!  Though because this is obviously leaked or stolen communication it would be difficult to see how it could be used in an official capacity. Bought by Dave King....
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weebaldy
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9 Sep 2017, 05:06 PM
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We Won the Big One-They Never Will!
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- qualitystreetkid
- 9 Sep 2017, 04:02 PM
I'm extremely happy to see Celtic now being open and public about their position - this could get rowdy No doubt the SMSM will form their usual circle to defend sevco, bad mouth Celtic and try to make us believe that it's all a waste of time oh, and will be bad for Scottish Football.
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9 Sep 2017, 05:06 PM
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Popped over to sevco media there
Their rage is off the scale - foaming at the mouth levels of rage
Children being abused is the only shield or response they have - they're convinced we're doing his because we are about to get sued and titles stripped because of the Boys Club stuff - someone knows someone who is a lawyer it seems
But anyway 'its war' apparently
They want statements ! And the vanguardians have stepped up
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Gothamcelt
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9 Sep 2017, 05:09 PM
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- Swarfega
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Dirty corrupt bastards!!!  Though because this is obviously leaked or stolen communication it would be difficult to see how it could be used in an official capacity.
Bought by Dave King.... Yeah, bought by King to help bring down the old board or to make the some of the old board look bad to the other board members.
Hopefully this will come back to bite King in the arse.
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Gothamcelt
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9 Sep 2017, 05:18 PM
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John James with comment from Auldheid.
The Duel
Spoiler: click to toggle The following comment is from long term contributor to this site, Auldheid:” Celtic are the other club who wrote independently to the SFA (about 8 weeks ago). That followed the SFA announcement on 5th July when the SC ruled on ebts. The advice given to Celtic last December when Res12 was passed over to them was to wait for both court cases on ebts and Craig Whyte to end. The latter was followed closely by a number of interested parties in football. From then Celtic have made their current position clear and presented a case that has resulted in the UEFA licence of 2011 being put before the Compliance Officer and no one knows what that outcome will be based on the evidence that has clearly been given the once over by an SFA QC. There is no doubt the status of the wtc liability was misrepresented by Rangers on 1st April which allowed the Licence to be granted on 19th April. There is no doubt the status continued to be misrepresented in subsequent submissions under Art66 and Art 67 of UEFA FFP. What is uncertain is the role those working at Hampden either as Commitee members or officials played to keep UEFA at bay. E mails of Sept and the well known one of December from Regan the day after he spoke to Andrew Dickson about the Licence issue require questions to be answered, for example why did Ramsay (acting in a PR capacity) think publishing Regan’s statement might cause SFA problems? Finally what was Regan and Ogilvie told in the meeting that did result from his e mail at the Hotel de Ville? What was he told that satisfied him nothing should be published which dictated SFA policy on UEFA licence thereafter? So Celtic took on board the advice to wait and have very much acted after 5th July on Res12. It was always going to be so. There is an AGM in a few months and the club are accountable to shareholders but it must be obvious by now they are dealing with folk of no integrity whatsoever who are prepared to lie or conceal as a matter of course.” The desperate attempts by Regan to save his ‘career’ as a football administrator and his latest actions to inculcate the mantra of ‘moving on’ will backfire. There has been some push back on my unshakeable belief that Grahame was briefed by Broadfoot/Regan. Even if it came through a more circuitous route there can be no doubt that the SFA are behind this. Celtic have kept their powder dry. Testimony at the Craig Whyte trial blew a hole in the ‘crystallised’ defence of a corrupt decision. Stewart Regan is on record, to Alex Thompson, that EBT were legal. This was the same conclusion reached by the LNS commission that he shaped and guided to this end. The Supreme Court confirmed The Inner House ruling that EBT employed by Rangers were instruments in disguised remuneration. Regan’s attempt to justify the tax evasion and cheating by Rangers fell on deaf ears. Hugh Adam informed anyone who would listen that Rangers knew that they were cheating in 2002. However this did not prohibit Campbell Ogilvie from ascending the SFA greasy pole, or his successor in crime Andrew Dickson being elevated to the SFA Council. The same Council that paved the way for Rangers to unlawfully gain a UEFA licence. The LNS Commission was a predetermined sham. A slap on the wrist for eleven seasons of systemic cheating was an outrage. As I exclusively revealed the SPL called an interim meeting to discuss appealing this inordinately lenient outcome. They decided not to rake over hot coals. Colour me surprised. When reports began to surface in the SMSM in regard to the SFA’s complicity in a UEFA stitch-up, Regan wrote to Rangers asking for their permission to release a statement which would exonerate him. Rangers vetoed this. Allow me to restate this for emphasis. The Chief Executive of the supposedly independent body that is the SFA had his policy dictated by a member club. In a meeting hosted by Doncaster, Rod McKenzie asserted that the SFA would not release the player registration details and other documents. The SFA were not prepared to cooperate with the LNS Commission. How far does the corruption go at Hampden? The latest salvo by Regan and Broadfoot is the last throw of a regime that has been caught bang to rights. If Celtic have been keeping their powder dry it’s high time to fill their muskets. The honour of the game has been traduced by the grubby machinations of the SFA. Will Lawwell and his seconds demand justice? https://johnjamessite.com/
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Jackie was my hero
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9 Sep 2017, 05:27 PM
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- fatboab
- 9 Sep 2017, 12:40 PM
anyone still think our Board aren't on this?
this is great news . Hopefully other clubs will back us. Haven't they already?
The letters from Celtic keep repeating the point about the spfl board, that represent all clubs want the review also.
They've backed us already imo.
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Seneca
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9 Sep 2017, 05:30 PM
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- murphio
- 9 Sep 2017, 04:52 PM
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- 9 Sep 2017, 04:45 PM
Dirty corrupt bastards!!!  Though because this is obviously leaked or stolen communication it would be difficult to see how it could be used in an official capacity. There is a precedent that this material is admissible - from the Royal Courts of Justice, no less. Would the SFA argue that they are a higher authority than the High Court? Charlotte Fakes admissible in trial
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murphio
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9 Sep 2017, 05:33 PM
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Could start a row in an empty room
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- Seneca
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Dirty corrupt bastards!!!  Though because this is obviously leaked or stolen communication it would be difficult to see how it could be used in an official capacity.
There is a precedent that this material is admissible - from the Royal Courts of Justice, no less. Would the SFA argue that they are a higher authority than the High Court? Charlotte Fakes admissible in trial Even if they are 'admissible' - can they be proven as belonging to Regan?
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Seneca
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9 Sep 2017, 05:41 PM
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There is a precedent that this material is admissible - from the Royal Courts of Justice, no less. Would the SFA argue that they are a higher authority than the High Court? Charlotte Fakes admissible in trial
Even if they are 'admissible' - can they be proven as belonging to Regan? Well, there are 8 or 9 people involved in that email exchange: wouldn't they all have to agree that it is a complete fabrication?
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Estadio nacional
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9 Sep 2017, 05:46 PM
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Those emails with the head of the SFA asking rfc what to do sums up everything about the SFA and their corruption and collusion with rfc.
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murphio
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9 Sep 2017, 05:53 PM
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- Seneca
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Even if they are 'admissible' - can they be proven as belonging to Regan?
Well, there are 8 or 9 people involved in that email exchange: wouldn't they all have to agree that it is a complete fabrication? I don't know mate I am just thinking out loud.
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9 Sep 2017, 05:53 PM
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- johnny88
- 9 Sep 2017, 01:42 PM
Reading through the leaked letters, did Reagan mention UEFA license without even being asked about it. I think he is throwing down breadcrumbs.  Yes and on that issue it looks like he is prepared to throw present sevco management under the bus, on the basis that they, while managing oldco, sent misleading info to the SFA on the outstanding "wee tax" liabilities.
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Timdom come
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9 Sep 2017, 05:59 PM
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- qualitystreetkid
- 9 Sep 2017, 04:02 PM
I'm extremely happy to see Celtic now being open and public about their position - this could get rowdy
Taking it all back...
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9 Sep 2017, 06:00 PM
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- murphio
- 9 Sep 2017, 01:55 PM
In relation to the license - I have always found that to be one of the less important issues in the whole circus. For one thing, what can the SFA do, retrospectively, to punish oldco for misleading them? As it goes, I don't believe for one second they were misled. They fudged the issue so that the revenue would help keep Rangers as a going concern. But that is already the position they are hiding behind and even if they do find Rangers oldco guilty, I don't see how that helps us in any way whatsoever - the SFA will simply say re compensation, for example, to pursue Rangers oldco. What they can do, if oldco was to be found guilty, is punish the individuals who mislead SFA and UEFA. Some of those individuals are now on the sevco board, including Dave King. However if that happens, those said individuals will defend themselves and hopefully reveal the complicity of the SFA hierarchy. Should be fun to watch.
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Marado
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9 Sep 2017, 06:06 PM
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I'll give you a war you won't believe.
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In relation to the license - I have always found that to be one of the less important issues in the whole circus. For one thing, what can the SFA do, retrospectively, to punish oldco for misleading them? As it goes, I don't believe for one second they were misled. They fudged the issue so that the revenue would help keep Rangers as a going concern. But that is already the position they are hiding behind and even if they do find Rangers oldco guilty, I don't see how that helps us in any way whatsoever - the SFA will simply say re compensation, for example, to pursue Rangers oldco.
What they can do, if oldco was to be found guilty, is punish the individuals who mislead SFA and UEFA. Some of those individuals are now on the sevco board, including Dave King. However if that happens, those said individuals will defend themselves and hopefully reveal the complicity of the SFA hierarchy. Should be fun to watch. UEFA might not be too happy either with SFA granting one of their licenses to a club the knew fine well never met the criteria.
Hope they don't ban Scottish clubs for a season.
If only we had some clout at UEFA.
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9 Sep 2017, 06:08 PM
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There is a precedent that this material is admissible - from the Royal Courts of Justice, no less. Would the SFA argue that they are a higher authority than the High Court? Charlotte Fakes admissible in trial
Even if they are 'admissible' - can they be proven as belonging to Regan? If whoever put them on sribd has the original emails then yeah, the headers would prove they came from the SFA.
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Seneca
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9 Sep 2017, 06:14 PM
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Well, there are 8 or 9 people involved in that email exchange: wouldn't they all have to agree that it is a complete fabrication?
I don't know mate I am just thinking out loud. Sure, me too! My guess is that if the emails are fake one of the names in the exchange would have come forward by now - it's been a few years since Charlotte published it - to say it's nonsense.
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qualitystreetkid
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9 Sep 2017, 06:19 PM
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- 9 Sep 2017, 04:02 PM
I'm extremely happy to see Celtic now being open and public about their position - this could get rowdy Taking it all back...
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