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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,487 Views)
mmhughes
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9 Sep 2017, 02:00 PM
So, what's the next move?
Exactly. I think we, as fans, need to have a plan ready in the event the SFA board fail to move on the issue.
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mmhughes
9 Sep 2017, 02:06 PM
Flawless
9 Sep 2017, 02:00 PM
So, what's the next move?
Exactly. I think we, as fans, need to have a plan ready in the event the SFA board fail to move on the issue.
I don't think Celtic are finished with this.
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This is only the side skirmish regarding on the face of it learning from mistakes

The licence issue will uncover one aspect of the deceit

And Obviously the reason it's being resisted is it is wide ranging in scope and lifts the stone to let everyone see who and what slithers and slithered underneath

The SPFL /LNS scope and tuck up is where the titles lie but this skirmish starts the war

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9 Sep 2017, 02:09 PM
mmhughes
9 Sep 2017, 02:06 PM
Flawless
9 Sep 2017, 02:00 PM
So, what's the next move?
Exactly. I think we, as fans, need to have a plan ready in the event the SFA board fail to move on the issue.
I don't think Celtic are finished with this.
Lawwell has set his stall out quite eloquently and no way will he back down now. Although I tend to think a certain Dermot Desmond is still a tad upset since they hammered us 1-1
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9 Sep 2017, 02:06 PM
murphio
9 Sep 2017, 01:55 PM
In relation to the license - I have always found that to be one of the less important issues in the whole circus. For one thing, what can the SFA do, retrospectively, to punish oldco for misleading them? As it goes, I don't believe for one second they were misled. They fudged the issue so that the revenue would help keep Rangers as a going concern. But that is already the position they are hiding behind and even if they do find Rangers oldco guilty, I don't see how that helps us in any way whatsoever - the SFA will simply say re compensation, for example, to pursue Rangers oldco.
If guilt is established re: the UEFA License award, the SFA could say we cannot punish Rangers because they are deid and we cannot punish Sevco because they are a new club, which is of course the UEFA response.

The SFA could, however, punish those individuals who are guilty of misleading / lying to gain that UEFA License, many of whom are still in positions of power and authority, be it at the SFA and, or Sevco
How could they punish Craig Whyte - because that is who they are blaming? It costs the SFA NOTHING to pursue the license issue because there is absolutely nothing they can do to Sevco. That is why they are happy to proceed on that issue alone. Maybe they can issue Craig Whyte another fine to throw in the bin. Pursuing the dual contracts, on the other hand, would inevitably lead to title stripping which DOES affect Sevco. Because their fans - a large portion of the Scottish customer base - see themselves as a continuation of Oldco. The SFA don't want to rake over the coals - translation; we don't want to upset the huns.
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Shortbread is hilarious.

Chick Dung desperate to tell us all how everyone just wants to move on.
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So

Are the orcs ragin yet about this or whit?
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murphio
9 Sep 2017, 02:14 PM
Wee Ed KTF
9 Sep 2017, 02:06 PM
murphio
9 Sep 2017, 01:55 PM
In relation to the license - I have always found that to be one of the less important issues in the whole circus. For one thing, what can the SFA do, retrospectively, to punish oldco for misleading them? As it goes, I don't believe for one second they were misled. They fudged the issue so that the revenue would help keep Rangers as a going concern. But that is already the position they are hiding behind and even if they do find Rangers oldco guilty, I don't see how that helps us in any way whatsoever - the SFA will simply say re compensation, for example, to pursue Rangers oldco.
If guilt is established re: the UEFA License award, the SFA could say we cannot punish Rangers because they are deid and we cannot punish Sevco because they are a new club, which is of course the UEFA response.

The SFA could, however, punish those individuals who are guilty of misleading / lying to gain that UEFA License, many of whom are still in positions of power and authority, be it at the SFA and, or Sevco
How could they punish Craig Whyte - because that is who they are blaming? It costs the SFA NOTHING to pursue the license issue because there is absolutely nothing they can do to Sevco. That is why they are happy to proceed on that issue alone. Maybe they can issue Craig Whyte another fine to throw in the bin. Pursuing the dual contracts, on the other hand, would inevitably lead to title stripping which DOES affect Sevco. Because their fans - a large portion of the Scottish customer base - see themselves as a continuation of Oldco. The SFA don't want to rake over the coals - translation; we don't want to upset the huns.
Not Craig Whyte

The WTC bill had crystallised before Craig Whyte's takeover

The original UEFA License application was made before Craig Whyte's takeover

Edit to add: I agree, the bigger issue (by far) is the EBT decade
Edited by Wee Ed KTF, 9 Sep 2017, 02:20 PM.
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murphio
9 Sep 2017, 02:14 PM
Wee Ed KTF
9 Sep 2017, 02:06 PM
murphio
9 Sep 2017, 01:55 PM
In relation to the license - I have always found that to be one of the less important issues in the whole circus. For one thing, what can the SFA do, retrospectively, to punish oldco for misleading them? As it goes, I don't believe for one second they were misled. They fudged the issue so that the revenue would help keep Rangers as a going concern. But that is already the position they are hiding behind and even if they do find Rangers oldco guilty, I don't see how that helps us in any way whatsoever - the SFA will simply say re compensation, for example, to pursue Rangers oldco.
If guilt is established re: the UEFA License award, the SFA could say we cannot punish Rangers because they are deid and we cannot punish Sevco because they are a new club, which is of course the UEFA response.

The SFA could, however, punish those individuals who are guilty of misleading / lying to gain that UEFA License, many of whom are still in positions of power and authority, be it at the SFA and, or Sevco
How could they punish Craig Whyte - because that is who they are blaming? It costs the SFA NOTHING to pursue the license issue because there is absolutely nothing they can do to Sevco. That is why they are happy to proceed on that issue alone. Maybe they can issue Craig Whyte another fine to throw in the bin. Pursuing the dual contracts, on the other hand, would inevitably lead to title stripping which DOES affect Sevco. Because their fans - a large portion of the Scottish customer base - see themselves as a continuation of Oldco. The SFA don't want to rake over the coals - translation; we don't want to upset the huns.
The license issue has nothing to do with Whyte.
He wasn't at the club at the time it was issued.

It impacts those currently involved with the Ibrox club.
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BBC Scotland Sportsound desperate to make this a Celtic v Rangers thing. And whilst other clubs remain silent on this issue, then it will be easy to make it an 'old firm' thing.
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Chick Young pushing "the waste of money" line on BBC.

Scottish football is too wee, too poor and too stupid to be able to afford good governance.

Discussion on radio shortbread is all about processes, no one prepared to make a stand on principle. Tom English, Chris McLaughlin gutless and spineless.

McLaughlin claiming to have identified fans who are sick and tired of all this and want to "move on". Doesn't mention that they are all Rangers/Sevco fans
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9 Sep 2017, 02:19 PM
So

Are the orcs ragin yet about this or whit?
They rage permanently :lol:
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andrewcfc1888
9 Sep 2017, 01:04 PM
Interesting that it was Regan's suggestion to print the details of the letters but then had to be asked twice about doing so when Celtic agreed... smells like a veiled threat and Lawwell has well and truly called his bluff!

All in all I'm pleased with the first shots... it's time to rid everyone of these corrupt incompetents out of our game for good.

Yes, that stuck out to me also.
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9 Sep 2017, 02:21 PM
Chick Young pushing "the waste of money" line on BBC.

Scottish football is too wee, too poor and too stupid to be able to afford good governance.

Discussion on radio shortbread is all about processes, no one prepared to make a stand on principle. Tom English, Chris McLaughlin gutless and spineless.

McLaughlin claiming to have identified fans who are sick and tired of all this and want to "move on". Doesn't mention that they are all Rangers/Sevco fans
It's like they fear the outcome.
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Jack Thaler
9 Sep 2017, 02:20 PM
murphio
9 Sep 2017, 02:14 PM
Wee Ed KTF
9 Sep 2017, 02:06 PM

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How could they punish Craig Whyte - because that is who they are blaming? It costs the SFA NOTHING to pursue the license issue because there is absolutely nothing they can do to Sevco. That is why they are happy to proceed on that issue alone. Maybe they can issue Craig Whyte another fine to throw in the bin. Pursuing the dual contracts, on the other hand, would inevitably lead to title stripping which DOES affect Sevco. Because their fans - a large portion of the Scottish customer base - see themselves as a continuation of Oldco. The SFA don't want to rake over the coals - translation; we don't want to upset the huns.
The license issue has nothing to do with Whyte.
He wasn't at the club at the time it was issued.

It impacts those currently involved with the Ibrox club.
Yep.

King, Paul Murray, Johnston and Dickson are in the dock
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Wailer
9 Sep 2017, 02:22 PM
Broadly Equivalent Bhoy
9 Sep 2017, 02:21 PM
Chick Young pushing "the waste of money" line on BBC.

Scottish football is too wee, too poor and too stupid to be able to afford good governance.

Discussion on radio shortbread is all about processes, no one prepared to make a stand on principle. Tom English, Chris McLaughlin gutless and spineless.

McLaughlin claiming to have identified fans who are sick and tired of all this and want to "move on". Doesn't mention that they are all Rangers/Sevco fans
It's like they fear the outcome.
The outcome will also show them for the spineless unprofessional little turds they are as well. THis is the biggest sports corruption story the UK has arguably seen, and Scottish "journalists" employed by all of us at the state broadcaster CGAF.

They pull down a salary under false pretences the scumbags.
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9 Sep 2017, 02:21 PM
McLaughlin claiming to have identified fans who are sick and tired of all this and want to "move on". Doesn't mention that they are all Rangers/Sevco fans
Funny how they never meet the ones who are very pissed off that they spent money following a bent sport and the authorities and the media seem to have no sympathy for. I tend to meet a lot more of them than the other type.
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Wanyerma
9 Sep 2017, 02:25 PM
Wailer
9 Sep 2017, 02:22 PM
Broadly Equivalent Bhoy
9 Sep 2017, 02:21 PM
Chick Young pushing "the waste of money" line on BBC.

Scottish football is too wee, too poor and too stupid to be able to afford good governance.

Discussion on radio shortbread is all about processes, no one prepared to make a stand on principle. Tom English, Chris McLaughlin gutless and spineless.

McLaughlin claiming to have identified fans who are sick and tired of all this and want to "move on". Doesn't mention that they are all Rangers/Sevco fans
It's like they fear the outcome.
The outcome will also show them for the spineless unprofessional little turds they are as well. THis is the biggest sports corruption story the UK has arguably seen, and Scottish "journalists" employed by all of us at the state broadcaster CGAF.

They pull down a salary under false pretences the scumbags.
Twas ever thus

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Big+Jock+V+Blue+Peter

Good piece by thehumantorpedo on the wiki
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Jack Thaler
9 Sep 2017, 02:20 PM
murphio
9 Sep 2017, 02:14 PM
Wee Ed KTF
9 Sep 2017, 02:06 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
How could they punish Craig Whyte - because that is who they are blaming? It costs the SFA NOTHING to pursue the license issue because there is absolutely nothing they can do to Sevco. That is why they are happy to proceed on that issue alone. Maybe they can issue Craig Whyte another fine to throw in the bin. Pursuing the dual contracts, on the other hand, would inevitably lead to title stripping which DOES affect Sevco. Because their fans - a large portion of the Scottish customer base - see themselves as a continuation of Oldco. The SFA don't want to rake over the coals - translation; we don't want to upset the huns.
The license issue has nothing to do with Whyte.
He wasn't at the club at the time it was issued.

It impacts those currently involved with the Ibrox club.
Fair enough. :thumbsup:
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The SPFL line here is confusing me. I thought Doncaster appeared to be going out of his way to say Nimmo Smith couldn't be revisited - but they are also pushing the SFA for an independent review. What am I missing?
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