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| The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,973 Views) | |
| Corky Buczek | 7 Aug 2014, 02:25 AM Post #1041 |
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Trolololo
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No one can deny that Deila and the players have contributed massively to our European exit. But the failure of the board to invest in the team is ALSO a factor. The current ambition amongst the board just now is to do the bare minimum and hope we can get away with it. It nearly failed spectacularly last year in the qualifiers. No lessons were learned and the past week has seen what almost occurred last year, finally kick us in the baws. |
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| remy mcswain | 7 Aug 2014, 02:27 AM Post #1042 |
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Big in Canada
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Lawwell falling on his sword will be up there with Jock Brown's exit for me. |
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| GreenWhiteAndCeltic | 7 Aug 2014, 02:29 AM Post #1043 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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It's called a wage structure mate. You know, Brown is the highest earner and all that. Not to mention giving a 20-22 year old a 4 year deal on 25k+ a week would mean giving them 30k+ within 2 years. That's not sustainable. |
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| Mubo Loravcik | 7 Aug 2014, 02:31 AM Post #1044 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Agreed. On a much bigger scale, Lawwell is from the same line of prudent men - like Rod Petrie - who don't factor enough of the football side of the operation and are completely out of touch. It's a toxic situation, and it's even worse considering we should be thriving in a season where 4IAR is all but guaranteed. His time is up, the apathy has to stop or else the times of 'tae ra car park' will only be inevitable. Edited by Mubo Loravcik, 7 Aug 2014, 02:31 AM.
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| Ess | 7 Aug 2014, 02:31 AM Post #1045 |
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Abooganza!
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We really can't afford the overhaul needed. Even if money was made available, it would just make it worse in a sense because it would just be stable doors and horses and I would be raging that it wasn't released sooner. But we all know it wont. Reaching the last 16, or even the group stages is the only way we turn a profit (barring player sales). So in order to improve, we should have been spending all surplus on the squad and trying to attract better players. Instead we immediately focused on improving the books to the detriment of the squad, or the "product" as it seems to be. A very risky gamble which has spectacularly backfired. Edited by Ess, 7 Aug 2014, 02:33 AM.
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| GreenWhiteAndCeltic | 7 Aug 2014, 02:38 AM Post #1046 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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When it really comes down to it, we are better man for man than Warsaw. They were better as a team. We haven't spent wisely in the transfer market, especially with regards to strikers since Hooper. If we bring in 3 or 4 decent players, all this will be forgotten until next time we are going through a dry patch. |
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| Corky Buczek | 7 Aug 2014, 02:41 AM Post #1047 |
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Trolololo
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Oh patronising comments that are also complete tosh You can alter a wage structure depending on how valuable the player is. You only give the guy the wage increase if he is worth it and you can afford it. We could have afforded Hooper's wage demands. It doesn't make financial sense to sell one good player and replace him with three inferior ones whose combined cost is greater than the good one you allow to leave. The proof was there tonight, that such a strategy is completely unsustainable Edited by Corky Buczek, 7 Aug 2014, 02:51 AM.
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| Corky Buczek | 7 Aug 2014, 02:43 AM Post #1048 |
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Trolololo
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And do you really think we're about to bring in 3 or 4 decent players ? |
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| Corky Buczek | 7 Aug 2014, 02:46 AM Post #1049 |
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Trolololo
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His time was up a few seasons ago. I suspect that their will be blood oozing from his fingernails before he gives it up. Although tonight is the first time that fans have really turned on him at a game. |
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| jamiebhoy76 | 7 Aug 2014, 03:16 AM Post #1050 |
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Club Captain
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I don't think the patching of Lawwell will be enough, under Desmonds stewardship we're being mothballed.
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| GreenWhiteAndCeltic | 7 Aug 2014, 04:15 AM Post #1051 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Well last year we brought in Van Dijk, Derk (didn't work), Pukki and Biton. Two out of four isn't bad, while I appreciate we could have spent more money and got someone better than Pukki, we were unfortunate with Derk. If Pukki and Derk had played well, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's unfortunate they didn't, take it on the chin and move on. |
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| GreenWhiteAndCeltic | 7 Aug 2014, 04:17 AM Post #1052 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Just because we could afford Hoopers doesn't mean we could afford to pay Brown the same when he demands closer to Hoopers, then when any other player sees we have altered our wage structure their demands will be higher too. We are going to hit a glass celling every couple of seasons, take a bump come back down then regroup. |
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| Hagi Bhoy | 7 Aug 2014, 04:30 AM Post #1053 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Pretty much spot on, unfortunately. The poor signings of last summer and January are the reason we're struggling now. Biton hasn't come close to replacing Wanyama. Pukki, Balde and Griffiths can't touch Hooper. Boeriggter has been awful so far and hasn't added pace or width. In fact, on Virgil added anything last year to our already weakened team. The jury is out on Johansen but I think he'll come good with time. Look at the slow start Lustig made coming straight from a Scandinavian season. |
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| Henry Trumpington | 7 Aug 2014, 06:24 AM Post #1054 |
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Occasional Substitute
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It's easy to forget that we're a PLC first, and a football club second. A business strategy however, where costs are reduced to the extent that you're no longer able to generate income is a failed one. Surely even Peter knows this. |
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| lenobhoy | 7 Aug 2014, 07:10 AM Post #1055 |
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Catch some light and it'll be alright
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What did Lawell say about the quality of player not dropping. Anyone remember when he said this? |
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| katlegend | 7 Aug 2014, 08:03 AM Post #1056 |
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First-team starter
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Yep we are a business first & foremost. Unfortunately the product is rubbish & the customers have been ripped off. Most of them fully realise this now. Edited by katlegend, 7 Aug 2014, 08:04 AM.
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| Mackin | 7 Aug 2014, 08:18 AM Post #1057 |
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The Ginty McGinty genius
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en-gb"><p>Organising a birthday, engagement, christening or anniversary celebration? Party at Celtic Park for a truly unique and memorable experience.</p>— Kerrydale Bar (@KerrydaleBar) <a href="https://twitter.com/KerrydaleBar/statuses/497265959993090048">August 7, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Roll up. Roll up. Give us all your money. Thats all these ***** care about. Time to starve them out. |
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| lenobhoy | 7 Aug 2014, 08:19 AM Post #1058 |
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Catch some light and it'll be alright
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The only way this board will begin to realise that is when folk don't turn up and that's begining to happen. The board must back the manager and bring in the quality players he needs. |
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| katlegend | 7 Aug 2014, 08:29 AM Post #1059 |
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They have now shrunk us to a level where what quality player would consider coming here? The damage done last summer cannot be over estimated. Losing 6-1 , going on 8 or 9, to a side sitting 10th. in the polish league is probably our worst ever European performance. By the time we sell our only decent players this window a whole new team will be required. |
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| One sharp cookie | 7 Aug 2014, 08:45 AM Post #1060 |
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Getting on a bit
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For me, Lawwell's position is now untenable. When your only chance of a decent crowd this season depends on drawing the huns in one of the cups, you know it's time for sweeping changes. |
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