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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,503 Views)
Torquemada
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Excellent development. So much for those who claimed, some as late as yesterday, that Celtic would do nothing and wanted it all put behind us. That was carefully planted.

My only surprise is how forcefully it was written even back then. It shows that the recent missive following the Supreme Court judgment was perfectly weighted. The axis of evil at Hampden know exactly Celtic's position. Their only hope is to make it an "Old Firm" dispute on which they can remain "impartial". Now that The Times has run with it, the other clubs will be forced to respond, I imagine, if not by the SMSM then by their fans. Let's see!
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green_equals_silver
7 Sep 2017, 12:01 PM
Strip the titles, get it done. They'll be going for 45 by the end of this if they're lucky
it's oldco rangers who died in 2012 that we want the titles stripped from, not the tribute act - they are going for 1 and won't be getting that in the foreseeable future.

With regard PL's running of Celtic, I reckon he has always looked at the bigger picture and was aware that Scottish football Does need some team out of ibrox - an SPFL without a rangers would struggle to attract sponsorship, tv deals etc. PL donated £1 million of Celtic's Sky money to Setanta (I believe) in order to keep a rangers team in the media, when they started their journey - he reckoned the SPFL needed them back and needed to keep sponsors / tv companies onside until it happened. Now there is a rangers team back in the SPL, he can go for the jugular.
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Torquemada
7 Sep 2017, 12:13 PM
Excellent development. So much for those who claimed, some as late as yesterday, that Celtic would do nothing and wanted it all put behind us. That was carefully planted.

My only surprise is how forcefully it was written even back then. It shows that the recent missive following the Supreme Court judgment was perfectly weighted. The axis of evil at Hampden know exactly Celtic's position. Their only hope is to make it an "Old Firm" dispute on which they can remain "impartial". Now that The Times has run with it, the other clubs will be forced to respond, I imagine, if not by the SMSM then by their fans. Let's see!
My immediate impression was the letter had been composed by someone with the skills of Paul McBride. Focused and forceful, without resorting to denigrating the target, or issuing hollow threats.
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Any follow up correspondence is what it would be good to see.
I can't see the SFA, SPL not responding to letters of this sort so it would be good to get their stance on it.
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justinjest
7 Sep 2017, 12:26 PM
PL donated £1 million of Celtic's Sky money to Setanta (I believe) in order to keep a rangers team in the media, when they started their journey - he reckoned the SPFL needed them back and needed to keep sponsors / tv companies onside until it happened.
What?
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Dhogtanian
7 Sep 2017, 12:36 PM
justinjest
7 Sep 2017, 12:26 PM
PL donated £1 million of Celtic's Sky money to Setanta (I believe) in order to keep a rangers team in the media, when they started their journey - he reckoned the SPFL needed them back and needed to keep sponsors / tv companies onside until it happened.
What?
You beat me to it! :ponder:

In time for the 2013/14 season, the SPL and SFL merged to become the SPFL, which also brought in a new income distribution system. That became less weighted in favour of the teams finishing first and second in the Premiership, in favour of primarily clubs in the second tier (Championship), and there was a better trickle down for clubs in the third and fourth tiers. Sevco were in the third tier at this time.

This does not amount to Lawwell giving Setanta, who were defunct in the UK at this point, or any other broadcaster anything like £1m to 'keep a Rangers team in the media'.

Also, Lawwell would have had absolutely no say on Sevco getting a licence in the first place, which happened the year previously. That was something that the Five Way Agreement took care of.
Edited by Forza, 7 Sep 2017, 12:49 PM.
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justinjest
7 Sep 2017, 12:26 PM
PL donated £1 million of Celtic's Sky money to Setanta (I believe) in order to keep a rangers team in the media, when they started their journey - he reckoned the SPFL needed them back and needed to keep sponsors / tv companies onside until it happened. Now there is a rangers team back in the SPL, he can go for the jugular.
whit????????????? :lol:
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Dhogtanian
7 Sep 2017, 12:36 PM
justinjest
7 Sep 2017, 12:26 PM
PL donated £1 million of Celtic's Sky money to Setanta (I believe) in order to keep a rangers team in the media, when they started their journey - he reckoned the SPFL needed them back and needed to keep sponsors / tv companies onside until it happened.
What?
Like that "I believe" caveat's gonnae excuse that pish he's just made up! :nono:

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justinjest
7 Sep 2017, 12:26 PM
green_equals_silver
7 Sep 2017, 12:01 PM
Strip the titles, get it done. They'll be going for 45 by the end of this if they're lucky
it's oldco rangers who died in 2012 that we want the titles stripped from, not the tribute act - they are going for 1 and won't be getting that in the foreseeable future.

With regard PL's running of Celtic, I reckon he has always looked at the bigger picture and was aware that Scottish football Does need some team out of ibrox - an SPFL without a rangers would struggle to attract sponsorship, tv deals etc. PL donated £1 million of Celtic's Sky money to Setanta (I believe) in order to keep a rangers team in the media, when they started their journey - he reckoned the SPFL needed them back and needed to keep sponsors / tv companies onside until it happened. Now there is a rangers team back in the SPL, he can go for the jugular.
Are you ok?
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7 Sep 2017, 12:13 PM
Luigi
7 Sep 2017, 12:12 PM
videocelts
7 Sep 2017, 08:25 AM
Looks like it is still alive, interesting that The Times decides to cover it, we'll see if an 'Old Firm war' breaks out...

https://videocelts.com/2017/09/blogs/latest-news/celtics-ebt-letter-to-the-sfa/
Feck me that's a horrible website to visit :nono:

Pop ups and windows everywhere.

I'm at work so can't install adblocker or such like.
It's horrendous without adblocker.

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It's still pish with it.

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Torquemada
7 Sep 2017, 12:13 PM
Excellent development. So much for those who claimed, some as late as yesterday, that Celtic would do nothing and wanted it all put behind us. That was carefully planted.

My only surprise is how forcefully it was written even back then. It shows that the recent missive following the Supreme Court judgment was perfectly weighted. The axis of evil at Hampden know exactly Celtic's position. Their only hope is to make it an "Old Firm" dispute on which they can remain "impartial". Now that The Times has run with it, the other clubs will be forced to respond, I imagine, if not by the SMSM then by their fans. Let's see!
Yes indeed, the letter proves myself (and others) were wrong in how seriously the board were taking this. My apologies to Lawell etc.

Onward to a satisfactory conclusion now I hope.
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Torquemada
7 Sep 2017, 12:13 PM
Excellent development. So much for those who claimed, some as late as yesterday, that Celtic would do nothing and wanted it all put behind us. That was carefully planted.

My only surprise is how forcefully it was written even back then. It shows that the recent missive following the Supreme Court judgment was perfectly weighted. The axis of evil at Hampden know exactly Celtic's position. Their only hope is to make it an "Old Firm" dispute on which they can remain "impartial". Now that The Times has run with it, the other clubs will be forced to respond, I imagine, if not by the SMSM then by their fans. Let's see!
I am suitably apologetic.

However, I remain a cynical, cantankerous and suspicious old git
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7 Sep 2017, 11:02 AM
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7 Sep 2017, 10:58 AM
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7 Sep 2017, 10:45 AM
This clearly reads to me that Peter Lawwell has had enough of their attempts to whitewash this and is taking the gloves off.
I suspect this is a leak from Lawwell.

Ewing Grahame (The Times journalist) is, I believe, a freelance. He is a former tabloid hack.

I interviewed Grahame many, many moons ago. He is, IIRC, a Celtic fan.
Hertz fan I think
He's a Celtic supporter.
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Here is the letter sent by Peter Lawwell to Stewart Regan. It also confirms Celtic have been in contact with UEFA on this matter since 2012.

If you look back on this thread there are many who were completely wrong and sometimes out of order with false accusations of the club and Lawwell standing by and doing nothing.


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Torquemada
7 Sep 2017, 12:13 PM
Excellent development. So much for those who claimed, some as late as yesterday, that Celtic would do nothing and wanted it all put behind us. That was carefully planted.

My only surprise is how forcefully it was written even back then. It shows that the recent missive following the Supreme Court judgment was perfectly weighted. The axis of evil at Hampden know exactly Celtic's position. Their only hope is to make it an "Old Firm" dispute on which they can remain "impartial". Now that The Times has run with it, the other clubs will be forced to respond, I imagine, if not by the SMSM then by their fans. Let's see!
Im one of them, havent really commented on it before on here but the day after I do this comes out. Ill just keep my mouth shut from now on
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7 Sep 2017, 01:54 PM
Here is the letter sent by Peter Lawwell to Stewart Regan. It also confirms Celtic have been in contact with UEFA on this matter since 2012.

If you look back on this thread there are many who were completely wrong and sometimes out of order with false accusations of the club and Lawwell standing by and doing nothing.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJH03YCXgAEGShh.jpg
Where's that from?
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justinjest
7 Sep 2017, 12:26 PM
green_equals_silver
7 Sep 2017, 12:01 PM
Strip the titles, get it done. They'll be going for 45 by the end of this if they're lucky
it's oldco rangers who died in 2012 that we want the titles stripped from, not the tribute act - they are going for 1 and won't be getting that in the foreseeable future.

With regard PL's running of Celtic, I reckon he has always looked at the bigger picture and was aware that Scottish football Does need some team out of ibrox - an SPFL without a rangers would struggle to attract sponsorship, tv deals etc. PL donated £1 million of Celtic's Sky money to Setanta (I believe) in order to keep a rangers team in the media, when they started their journey - he reckoned the SPFL needed them back and needed to keep sponsors / tv companies onside until it happened. Now there is a rangers team back in the SPL, he can go for the jugular.
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I'm no even sure where to begin with this, I do think you make a relevent point but you've bastardised it completely 😂

Peter Lawwell didn't "donate £1m of Celtic's SKY money to Setanta"... the SPL bought the rights of the hun games off the SFL and included them in the SKY/ESPN deal, (they just replaced hun SPL games) but the money didn't come out of Celtic's pocket, it came out of the collective SPL pot in 2012-13 then by the time 2013-14 kicked off the SPL and SFL merged meaning they didn't need to buy the rights again but prize money was restructured in order to get more funds into 2nd tier clubs who were sailing to close to wind.

Scotland's champions did drop around £700,000 in prize money but that had nothing to do with TV money, it was about making more funds available for those clubs in the league that would become the Championship.

The point I actually agree with you on is Lawwell would've seen the benefit of having a form of huns in the system for marketing purposes.
Edited by the-gaffer606, 7 Sep 2017, 02:20 PM.
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aldo
7 Sep 2017, 02:15 PM
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7 Sep 2017, 01:54 PM
Here is the letter sent by Peter Lawwell to Stewart Regan. It also confirms Celtic have been in contact with UEFA on this matter since 2012.

If you look back on this thread there are many who were completely wrong and sometimes out of order with false accusations of the club and Lawwell standing by and doing nothing.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJH03YCXgAEGShh.jpg
Where's that from?
Looks like it is actually printed in the pages of today's Times article.

Interesting that it was copied to Infantino, then General Secretary of UEFA.
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aldo
7 Sep 2017, 02:15 PM
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7 Sep 2017, 01:54 PM
Here is the letter sent by Peter Lawwell to Stewart Regan. It also confirms Celtic have been in contact with UEFA on this matter since 2012.

If you look back on this thread there are many who were completely wrong and sometimes out of order with false accusations of the club and Lawwell standing by and doing nothing.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJH03YCXgAEGShh.jpg
Where's that from?
The Times mate.

They have obviously been leaked the letter and it looks like the gloves are now off. The Scottish media puppets have rightly been bypassed.
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Times article for anyone interested:


Celtic still pressing SFA for inquiry
Lawwell letter from 2012 outlines stance
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