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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,510 Views)
Auldyin
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tomtheleedstim
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10 Aug 2017, 04:53 PM
In 02/03 there was a huge number of players sent off against Rangers. There was one in particular I recall on a Sunday afternoon, Thistle at Firhill. The home side were one up at half time, Rangers equalise, Gerry Britton sent off wrongly , Rangers win 2-1, red card reversed. I am sure that happened a few times but that one sticks in my mind.

How Deadco got to 54

Just noticed the report says that tax cheat Moore should have been sent off in the first half
I started counting red cards from the start if the season using their own match reports but gave up in Dec when the score went approx 11 opposition players and just the one Hun. It's not always made clear.
Some of the reports are astounding. Dundee 2 - Huns 2 https://rangers.co.uk/news/match-report/2002-03/dundee-2-2-rangers/ :rubeyes:
For my spreadsheet sins I kept tabs. It was bloody obvious the refs were making sure they were kept in the title hunt in 2003 along with another bite at the CL cherry that kept them "competitive" v Celtic.

Rangers finished 11 games against 10 men taking full points in all games bar one v Aberdeen which they drew at Pittodrie. They were awarded 11 penalties and scored 8 including the 1 from THREE v Dundee. In contrast Celtic never had a player ordered off against them that season and were awarded 8 penalties scoring from 7.

Rangers scored 18 goals against Dunfermline that season and in a 3-2 victory against Celtic both De Boer and Moore, recipients of unlawful DOS ebts that also had side letters scored. Both played regularly during that season with unlawful ebts and side letters whose existence Rangers denied to HMRC in April 2005.

All covered up by the SFA where dishonesty under Art 5.1 Obligations to Members by failing to

(a) observe the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship in accordance with the rules of
fair play
(f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. were never at any time in the Judicial Panel that sanctioned Craig Whyte or LNS who proclaimed no question of dishonesty despite no evidence of it being presented because it was not in his Terms of Reference in the first place.

Check BRTH's argument on SFM

https://www.sfm.scot/on-grounds-for-judicial-review/

Whether the CQN podcast folk have a case or got tactics right/wrong on what is only one part of a larger jigsaw, should not stop us focusing on the big picture that the SFA are trying hard not to be examined which is on titles and trophies won whilst Rangers were in breach of Article 5.1

That is where a JR has best chance of success i.e. that the SFA were one or all of the four Ds viz: Delinquent, Dishonest Deceitful and Disingenuous when it came to investigating similar behaviour by a member club against fellow members.



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Auldyin
10 Aug 2017, 08:38 PM
tomtheleedstim
10 Aug 2017, 06:53 PM
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10 Aug 2017, 04:53 PM
In 02/03 there was a huge number of players sent off against Rangers. There was one in particular I recall on a Sunday afternoon, Thistle at Firhill. The home side were one up at half time, Rangers equalise, Gerry Britton sent off wrongly , Rangers win 2-1, red card reversed. I am sure that happened a few times but that one sticks in my mind.

How Deadco got to 54

Just noticed the report says that tax cheat Moore should have been sent off in the first half
I started counting red cards from the start if the season using their own match reports but gave up in Dec when the score went approx 11 opposition players and just the one Hun. It's not always made clear.
Some of the reports are astounding. Dundee 2 - Huns 2 https://rangers.co.uk/news/match-report/2002-03/dundee-2-2-rangers/ :rubeyes:
For my spreadsheet sins I kept tabs. It was bloody obvious the refs were making sure they were kept in the title hunt in 2003 along with another bite at the CL cherry that kept them "competitive" v Celtic.

Rangers finished 11 games against 10 men taking full points in all games bar one v Aberdeen which they drew at Pittodrie. They were awarded 11 penalties and scored 8 including the 1 from THREE v Dundee. In contrast Celtic never had a player ordered off against them that season and were awarded 8 penalties scoring from 7.

Rangers scored 18 goals against Dunfermline that season and in a 3-2 victory against Celtic both De Boer and Moore, recipients of unlawful DOS ebts that also had side letters scored. Both played regularly during that season with unlawful ebts and side letters whose existence Rangers denied to HMRC in April 2005.

All covered up by the SFA where dishonesty under Art 5.1 Obligations to Members by failing to

(a) observe the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship in accordance with the rules of
fair play
(f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. were never at any time in the Judicial Panel that sanctioned Craig Whyte or LNS who proclaimed no question of dishonesty despite no evidence of it being presented because it was not in his Terms of Reference in the first place.

Check BRTH's argument on SFM

https://www.sfm.scot/on-grounds-for-judicial-review/

Whether the CQN podcast folk have a case or got tactics right/wrong on what is only one part of a larger jigsaw, should not stop us focusing on the big picture that the SFA are trying hard not to be examined which is on titles and trophies won whilst Rangers were in breach of Article 5.1

That is where a JR has best chance of success i.e. that the SFA were one or all of the four Ds viz: Delinquent, Dishonest Deceitful and Disingenuous when it came to investigating similar behaviour by a member club against fellow members.



The Dundee game was ridiculous. If I remember correctly the third penalty (which Arteta scored) was given for a non-existent hand ball.
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Seville year, mowbray year and Lennon's first season were all ridiculously shocking from the refs. Mind when they were going for 9/10iar, they were awful too. Couldn't tackle laudrop without it being a foul. Gazza could headbutt and elbow his way through a season anaw.
Edited by Dempele, 10 Aug 2017, 09:10 PM.
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10 Aug 2017, 09:07 PM
Auldyin
10 Aug 2017, 08:38 PM
tomtheleedstim
10 Aug 2017, 06:53 PM
For my spreadsheet sins I kept tabs. It was bloody obvious the refs were making sure they were kept in the title hunt in 2003 along with another bite at the CL cherry that kept them "competitive" v Celtic.

Rangers finished 11 games against 10 men taking full points in all games bar one v Aberdeen which they drew at Pittodrie. They were awarded 11 penalties and scored 8 including the 1 from THREE v Dundee. In contrast Celtic never had a player ordered off against them that season and were awarded 8 penalties scoring from 7.

Rangers scored 18 goals against Dunfermline that season and in a 3-2 victory against Celtic both De Boer and Moore, recipients of unlawful DOS ebts that also had side letters scored. Both played regularly during that season with unlawful ebts and side letters whose existence Rangers denied to HMRC in April 2005.

All covered up by the SFA where dishonesty under Art 5.1 Obligations to Members by failing to

(a) observe the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship in accordance with the rules of
fair play
(f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. were never at any time in the Judicial Panel that sanctioned Craig Whyte or LNS who proclaimed no question of dishonesty despite no evidence of it being presented because it was not in his Terms of Reference in the first place.

Check BRTH's argument on SFM

https://www.sfm.scot/on-grounds-for-judicial-review/

Whether the CQN podcast folk have a case or got tactics right/wrong on what is only one part of a larger jigsaw, should not stop us focusing on the big picture that the SFA are trying hard not to be examined which is on titles and trophies won whilst Rangers were in breach of Article 5.1

That is where a JR has best chance of success i.e. that the SFA were one or all of the four Ds viz: Delinquent, Dishonest Deceitful and Disingenuous when it came to investigating similar behaviour by a member club against fellow members.



The Dundee game was ridiculous. If I remember correctly the third penalty (which Arteta scored) was given for a non-existent hand ball.
Shame our ref from Tuesday wasn't doing the game, as I recall Alan Muir couldn't spot a blatant handball from 5 yards in front of his face, let alone a non-existent one. Then again, maybe he's another of our refs in Scotland who's just a bit colour blind when it comes to decision making. Like that cheating Hun Bobbie Madden who doesn't even try to hide it.
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I always have a nostalgic soft spot for CQN. It was on there that I heard about here. Always full of utter pish though. Just a phenomenal amount of bollocks. No doubt tomorrow will be New Balance Friday.

They don't have emails and they don't have evidence. They have been given the location of Al Capone's vault by Geraldo Riveira...at best.

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Auldyin
10 Aug 2017, 08:38 PM
tomtheleedstim
10 Aug 2017, 06:53 PM
Broadly Equivalent Bhoy
10 Aug 2017, 04:53 PM
In 02/03 there was a huge number of players sent off against Rangers. There was one in particular I recall on a Sunday afternoon, Thistle at Firhill. The home side were one up at half time, Rangers equalise, Gerry Britton sent off wrongly , Rangers win 2-1, red card reversed. I am sure that happened a few times but that one sticks in my mind.

How Deadco got to 54

Just noticed the report says that tax cheat Moore should have been sent off in the first half
I started counting red cards from the start if the season using their own match reports but gave up in Dec when the score went approx 11 opposition players and just the one Hun. It's not always made clear.
Some of the reports are astounding. Dundee 2 - Huns 2 https://rangers.co.uk/news/match-report/2002-03/dundee-2-2-rangers/ :rubeyes:
For my spreadsheet sins I kept tabs. It was bloody obvious the refs were making sure they were kept in the title hunt in 2003 along with another bite at the CL cherry that kept them "competitive" v Celtic.

Rangers finished 11 games against 10 men taking full points in all games bar one v Aberdeen which they drew at Pittodrie. They were awarded 11 penalties and scored 8 including the 1 from THREE v Dundee. In contrast Celtic never had a player ordered off against them that season and were awarded 8 penalties scoring from 7.

Rangers scored 18 goals against Dunfermline that season and in a 3-2 victory against Celtic both De Boer and Moore, recipients of unlawful DOS ebts that also had side letters scored. Both played regularly during that season with unlawful ebts and side letters whose existence Rangers denied to HMRC in April 2005.

All covered up by the SFA where dishonesty under Art 5.1 Obligations to Members by failing to

(a) observe the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship in accordance with the rules of
fair play
(f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. were never at any time in the Judicial Panel that sanctioned Craig Whyte or LNS who proclaimed no question of dishonesty despite no evidence of it being presented because it was not in his Terms of Reference in the first place.

Check BRTH's argument on SFM

https://www.sfm.scot/on-grounds-for-judicial-review/

Whether the CQN podcast folk have a case or got tactics right/wrong on what is only one part of a larger jigsaw, should not stop us focusing on the big picture that the SFA are trying hard not to be examined which is on titles and trophies won whilst Rangers were in breach of Article 5.1

That is where a JR has best chance of success i.e. that the SFA were one or all of the four Ds viz: Delinquent, Dishonest Deceitful and Disingenuous when it came to investigating similar behaviour by a member club against fellow members.



I thought I was #obsessed 😂
There appeared to be a significant difference in yellow cards as well although I didn't do the maths bit.
Also, the reds seemed to be at more significant times in a game i.e. When it affected the outcome.
As biased as you like. No question.
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Auldyin
10 Aug 2017, 08:38 PM
tomtheleedstim
10 Aug 2017, 06:53 PM
Broadly Equivalent Bhoy
10 Aug 2017, 04:53 PM
In 02/03 there was a huge number of players sent off against Rangers. There was one in particular I recall on a Sunday afternoon, Thistle at Firhill. The home side were one up at half time, Rangers equalise, Gerry Britton sent off wrongly , Rangers win 2-1, red card reversed. I am sure that happened a few times but that one sticks in my mind.

How Deadco got to 54

Just noticed the report says that tax cheat Moore should have been sent off in the first half
I started counting red cards from the start if the season using their own match reports but gave up in Dec when the score went approx 11 opposition players and just the one Hun. It's not always made clear.
Some of the reports are astounding. Dundee 2 - Huns 2 https://rangers.co.uk/news/match-report/2002-03/dundee-2-2-rangers/ :rubeyes:
For my spreadsheet sins I kept tabs. It was bloody obvious the refs were making sure they were kept in the title hunt in 2003 along with another bite at the CL cherry that kept them "competitive" v Celtic.

Rangers finished 11 games against 10 men taking full points in all games bar one v Aberdeen which they drew at Pittodrie. They were awarded 11 penalties and scored 8 including the 1 from THREE v Dundee. In contrast Celtic never had a player ordered off against them that season and were awarded 8 penalties scoring from 7.

Rangers scored 18 goals against Dunfermline that season and in a 3-2 victory against Celtic both De Boer and Moore, recipients of unlawful DOS ebts that also had side letters scored. Both played regularly during that season with unlawful ebts and side letters whose existence Rangers denied to HMRC in April 2005.

All covered up by the SFA where dishonesty under Art 5.1 Obligations to Members by failing to

(a) observe the principles of loyalty, integrity and sportsmanship in accordance with the rules of
fair play
(f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. were never at any time in the Judicial Panel that sanctioned Craig Whyte or LNS who proclaimed no question of dishonesty despite no evidence of it being presented because it was not in his Terms of Reference in the first place.

Check BRTH's argument on SFM

https://www.sfm.scot/on-grounds-for-judicial-review/

Whether the CQN podcast folk have a case or got tactics right/wrong on what is only one part of a larger jigsaw, should not stop us focusing on the big picture that the SFA are trying hard not to be examined which is on titles and trophies won whilst Rangers were in breach of Article 5.1

That is where a JR has best chance of success i.e. that the SFA were one or all of the four Ds viz: Delinquent, Dishonest Deceitful and Disingenuous when it came to investigating similar behaviour by a member club against fellow members.



:thumbsup: very informative post. Keep them coming
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10 Aug 2017, 04:53 PM
In 02/03 there was a huge number of players sent off against Rangers. There was one in particular I recall on a Sunday afternoon, Thistle at Firhill. The home side were one up at half time, Rangers equalise, Gerry Britton sent off wrongly , Rangers win 2-1, red card reversed. I am sure that happened a few times but that one sticks in my mind.

How Deadco got to 54

Just noticed the report says that tax cheat Moore should have been sent off in the first half
Was it also that season where Barry (8) went the full year without being booked?
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Surely not, I mean our CEO is on that board isn't he?

http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/sfa-ready-to-attempt-a-cover-up-to-protect-cronies/
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Yesterday, the SFA’s Professional Game Board met to discuss the SPFL’s request that they hold an inquiry into the goings-on in Scottish football, following The Supreme Court’s ruling last month on the legality of Rangers EBT use. The League, which represents all 42 senior clubs in the game, wants the national association to investigate the most serious governance events in the sport’s history.

You would think the SFA would be obliged to investigate, right?

Instead, the SFA are getting the band back together. They will sit down with Darryl Broadfoot, now the Association’s external PR, to calculate whether they can carry enough media support to get away with doing nothing at all.

Apparently, the SFA would rather solicit backing for inaction than carry out the wishes of their professional league. This is Scottish football in 2017. It is actually happening, right now.

Governance standards are non-negotiable. No national association can ignore the will of its professional clubs, on an issue as serious as governance, without major repercussions. If the acute situation we have witnessed in recent years is not bad enough, this lack of action puts the SFA on the verge of complicity and cover-up.

Some of the recent most senior office-holders of the Association itself are implicated in the scandal, both as administrators and financial beneficiaries. The question before members of the Professional Game Board isn’t just, ‘Do we do the right thing?’, it’s ‘Do we expose some of our friends and colleges to scrutiny? And if so, how far does the contamination spread?’ Those watching from within the game know, once Pandora’s Box is open, the actions of many others could be open to scrutiny. Don’t think evidence presented to Lord Nimmo Smith was not thoroughly rehearsed and approved by ‘the band’ before being put to the SPL Commission.

The SFA will instruct a cover-up in the coming days to protect their cronies, and in doing so will become complicit in the subversion of the level playing field in Scottish football.

The stink goes as high as the recent past-president of the SFA, Campbell Ogilvie, who worked with those on the Professional Game Board, and had administrative responsibility for contracts and licensing at Rangers during their EBT period. He was also a financial beneficiary of an EBT. The SFA will refuse the request of the SPFL to investigate these matters and attempt a cover-up.

When you have prima facie evidence of a governance issue, presented by your own league, involving your own past-president, you are obliged to open up to independent analysis. Failure to “promote and protect ethical standards and good governance” put the Scottish Football Association in breach of their duty as a member association of Uefa.

Fans will not accept anything less; clubs will not accept anything less. The matter will go to Uefa. It will go to government. It will go to media in England and beyond. It will go to court; those turning their heads today will be called to account. It cannot and will not be accepted. It will not go away.

There will be no cover-up to protect the guilty.

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Jfc that site is terrible. Tried to spoiler that, sorry :doh:
Edited by Jackie was my hero, 11 Aug 2017, 01:30 PM.
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No, he isn't.
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11 Aug 2017, 01:37 PM
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No, he isn't.
Rummenigge to step down at ECA. Gazidis, Lawwell or Woodward to step up?

:suspect:

Edit : Could we take down the SFA, etc from the outside?
Edited by ticcy_paper, 11 Aug 2017, 01:44 PM.
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11 Aug 2017, 01:37 PM
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No, he isn't.
Ahh, I thought I read he'd resigned form SPFL board to get on that one. Apologies to the SSM. :thumbsup:
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11 Aug 2017, 01:40 PM
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11 Aug 2017, 01:20 PM
No, he isn't.
Rummenigge to step down at ECA. Gazidis, Lawwell or Woodward to step up?

:suspect:

Edit : Could we take down the SFA, etc from the outside?
Ive always said that the club wont challenge any of the shenanigans going on in Scottish football because of Lawell/Celtics political ambitions
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Hoi, Fatboab, any statement update? :twitch:
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Hoi, Fatboab, any statement update? :twitch:
Aye. More than a little concerned with this.
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10 Aug 2017, 09:32 PM
I always have a nostalgic soft spot for CQN. It was on there that I heard about here. Always full of utter pish though. Just a phenomenal amount of bollocks. No doubt tomorrow will be New Balance Friday.

They don't have emails and they don't have evidence. They have been given the location of Al Capone's vault by Geraldo Riveira...at best.

That's a quality reference. :worthy:
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ryn
10 Aug 2017, 09:32 PM
I always have a nostalgic soft spot for CQN. It was on there that I heard about here. Always full of utter pish though. Just a phenomenal amount of bollocks. No doubt tomorrow will be New Balance Friday.

They don't have emails and they don't have evidence. They have been given the location of Al Capone's vault by Geraldo Riveira...at best.

That's a quality reference. :worthy:
https://youtu.be/n6c_zfcE5XU?t=11s
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Share price has rocketed the last few weeks, up 21% the biggest move in years.

Guessing it's folk speculating on CL qualification?

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"Bearish" describing a general downward trajectory :lol:
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