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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,535 Views)
Auldyin
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28 Jul 2017, 12:27 AM
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27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM

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It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

Conflating overall Scottish football governance with this absolute scandal is in no way acceptable. If Celtic need to go it alone over this, so be it.
The same SFSA set up by the guy who used to run Supporters Direct Scotland? The same SFSA funded by the SFA to be the voice of the fan?

Hmmm...
There's a story why the same guy doesn't run SD any more, the SFA didn't like his independent approach and the SFSA are not funded by the SFA, but SD are.

That's good enough for me.

I hear Regan was raging at the video of the cup draw. That I like too.
Edited by Auldyin, 28 Jul 2017, 04:49 AM.
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28 Jul 2017, 01:11 AM
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28 Jul 2017, 12:58 AM
Celtic are responsible for Celtic fans. That's the top and tail of it. If we're on out own on this, so what? Plenty of fans of other clubs know what it's about even if their scheidtbag owners and chairmen don't. If our own custodians don't act then they go down in Celtic history for all the wrong reasons.
Do you think DD is the person who has to decide where we go with this and is there a possibility he might not want to get involved given the questions being asked about his own separate business practices?

DD can wear a gimp suit at board meetings if he wants. It doesn't change the fact that the huns cheated and the SFA etc are sweeping it under the carpet.
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Auldyin
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27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM

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It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

Conflating overall Scottish football governance with this absolute scandal is in no way acceptable. If Celtic need to go it alone over this, so be it.
Ever heard of the saying plan long, act short?

After any JR (if it happens) has done its job and disappeared, what will it take to give supporters an input into the many other issues that bedevil the game?

One of the reasons supporters are ignored is that there is no capacity or platform on which they can legitimately stand.

The SFSA, who are independent of the SFA and, unlike the Supporters Direct are not funded by the SFA, are the best bet for introducing that capacity and they have a plan for doing it.

They are as much in favour as any other supporters for regime change but, having to appeal to supporters of all clubs, have to be seen to be more even handed in their approach.

A true story on planning long and acting short. An Engineer was called in by the RAF to advise pilots where to place their bombs in bringing down bridges in Bosnia. He pointed out the best supporting structures to hit not just for maximum effect in closing the bridge but also where rebuilding the supports would be easiest after the war was over. The engineer planned long, the pilots acted short but they worked together.


where has the long game got us, Auldyin? I say that with the upmost respect.

The past 2 days has taken us into uncharted waters in the sheer naked effrontery of the deceit that has been the hallmark of Scottish football for 20 years. They think and know that the media will not challenge them, and that fans of other clubs are getting sick of the whole shebang. That is what they are counting on.

I doubt Fergus would have done the gentleman's club approach to all of this.
Edited by Wanyerma, 28 Jul 2017, 11:22 AM.
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"the long game"

Jesus wept. We have been pished on from a great height,the ruling bodies are laughing at us and our board sits on their hands and sucks it up.

Those pointing out the approach would have been different with McCann are spot on. I doubt LNS would have got off the ground with him in situ.
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Wanyerma
28 Jul 2017, 11:22 AM
Auldyin
28 Jul 2017, 04:44 AM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM

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Ever heard of the saying plan long, act short?

After any JR (if it happens) has done its job and disappeared, what will it take to give supporters an input into the many other issues that bedevil the game?

One of the reasons supporters are ignored is that there is no capacity or platform on which they can legitimately stand.

The SFSA, who are independent of the SFA and, unlike the Supporters Direct are not funded by the SFA, are the best bet for introducing that capacity and they have a plan for doing it.

They are as much in favour as any other supporters for regime change but, having to appeal to supporters of all clubs, have to be seen to be more even handed in their approach.

A true story on planning long and acting short. An Engineer was called in by the RAF to advise pilots where to place their bombs in bringing down bridges in Bosnia. He pointed out the best supporting structures to hit not just for maximum effect in closing the bridge but also where rebuilding the supports would be easiest after the war was over. The engineer planned long, the pilots acted short but they worked together.


where has the long game got us, Auldyin? I say that with the upmost respect.

The past 2 days has taken us into uncharted waters in the sheer naked effrontery of the deceit that has been the hallmark of Scottish football for 20 years. They think and know that the media will not challenge them, and that fans of other clubs are getting sick of the whole shebang. That is what they are counting on.

I doubt Fergus would have done the gentleman's club approach to all of this.
Fergus is on record as saying that he would not have had Rangers chucked out the league and they would have been accepted by him back into the Premier league.

He was first and foremost a businessman and so unless he could see it as a way of making money then he would not have done anything.
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I don't go enough to boycott, but in can telling my Celtic pools and putting the annual cost into the crowd funding if it happens.

I'll strengthen why I am cancellling.
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The board should have at least let us know what's going on. A simple statement saying their proper response will be released in due course.

They very well are likely to be talking to lawyers etc. Let us know though.
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28 Jul 2017, 12:16 PM
I don't go enough to boycott, but in can telling my Celtic pools and putting the annual cost into the crowd funding if it happens.

I'll strengthen why I am cancellling.
Aye, what he said.
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28 Jul 2017, 11:59 AM
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28 Jul 2017, 11:22 AM
Auldyin
28 Jul 2017, 04:44 AM

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where has the long game got us, Auldyin? I say that with the upmost respect.

The past 2 days has taken us into uncharted waters in the sheer naked effrontery of the deceit that has been the hallmark of Scottish football for 20 years. They think and know that the media will not challenge them, and that fans of other clubs are getting sick of the whole shebang. That is what they are counting on.

I doubt Fergus would have done the gentleman's club approach to all of this.
Fergus is on record as saying that he would not have had Rangers chucked out the league and they would have been accepted by him back into the Premier league.

He was first and foremost a businessman and so unless he could see it as a way of making money then he would not have done anything.
Two different issues, with respect. Letting a club called Rangers into the league is different from how you handle a club called Rangers cheating. You could posit a rational argument that their fanbase is necessary for Scottish football, but you are on shakier ground to argue that 12 years of cheating is worth it.
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I sincerely hope that fatboab is correct when he says that the Celtic PLC Board are "on this" because every duplicitous utterance from the SPFL is multiplying the anger about the football authorities' condoning of Rangers' cheating, corruption and criminality.

If the Celtic PLC Board remain silent (and every second of their silence is creating more anger), then they too will be deemed to be conspirators in this scandal, and that shameful stance has the potential to tear Celtic apart.

Speak now, Celtic.
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The board of CFC are answerable to the shareholders. If enough shareholders support the Res 12 guys and keep taking a stance the board have to answer their concerns. The board are also indirectly answerable to their supporters/client/customers call them what you will!
There is enough evidence now disclosed in open court that the club, along with every other club in Scotland, was defrauded of prize money and European finance. The Huns lied to the tax authorities and to the football authorities. Certain individuals like Campbell Ogilive was involved both lying to the tax authorities and later worked for the football authorities, while knowing what the Huns were up to. If that's not fraud I don't what is!
The board must have their heads in the sand if they think that the support, knowing all this, is simply going to roll over and say that's just too bad :lol:
My take has always been straightforward, the system either reforms itself or we bring it down, if that fails the I will walk away from not only Scottish football but also CFC. I will sell all my shares in CFC(not that many, but originally bought by my mum and dad. They did not have huge amounts of money but sank a grand of their money in Fergus! So it's a big emotional investment for our family) and not renew my ST over over 20 years standing!
This is that big a deal for me. Knowing that right and justice is on our side gives me confidence that we can win but it might be a long struggle. I know the Hillsborough campaign was more important because human life was involved but it took those courageous people 20 years to get justice and that was in a better environment that the Masonic backwater that is Scotland!
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DD and his buddies control a majority of the shares. :suspect:
Edited by georgiesleftpeg, 28 Jul 2017, 02:11 PM.
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The silence is becoming deafening. Speak up or go.
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I don't know if everyone here had the misfortune of hearing Chris McLaughlin's sit down with Neil Doncaster and Ralph Topping.

If you didn't hear it, listen to it and prepare to be raging. I wonder what Lawwell etc were thinking listening to it.
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Auldyin
28 Jul 2017, 04:47 AM
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28 Jul 2017, 12:27 AM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM

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The same SFSA set up by the guy who used to run Supporters Direct Scotland? The same SFSA funded by the SFA to be the voice of the fan?

Hmmm...
There's a story why the same guy doesn't run SD any more, the SFA didn't like his independent approach and the SFSA are not funded by the SFA, but SD are.

That's good enough for me.

I hear Regan was raging at the video of the cup draw. That I like too.
What was that about again (the video)?
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I don't know if everyone here had the misfortune of hearing Chris McLaughlin's sit down with Neil Doncaster and Ralph Topping.

If you didn't hear it, listen to it and prepare to be raging. I wonder what Lawwell etc were thinking listening to it.
Can you link to it?

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Jackie was my hero
28 Jul 2017, 02:47 PM
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I don't know if everyone here had the misfortune of hearing Chris McLaughlin's sit down with Neil Doncaster and Ralph Topping.

If you didn't hear it, listen to it and prepare to be raging. I wonder what Lawwell etc were thinking listening to it.
Can you link to it?

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It was on sportsound before the match on Wednesday. The BBC podcast only has the post-match reaction.
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corsica1968
28 Jul 2017, 12:27 AM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM
CM1975
27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM

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It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

Conflating overall Scottish football governance with this absolute scandal is in no way acceptable. If Celtic need to go it alone over this, so be it.
The same SFSA set up by the guy who used to run Supporters Direct Scotland? The same SFSA funded by the SFA to be the voice of the fan?

Hmmm...
SFSA are quite clear that they will not request or accept funding from the SFA. They will be looking for funding from fans.
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Jackie was my hero
28 Jul 2017, 02:47 PM
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28 Jul 2017, 02:15 PM
I don't know if everyone here had the misfortune of hearing Chris McLaughlin's sit down with Neil Doncaster and Ralph Topping.

If you didn't hear it, listen to it and prepare to be raging. I wonder what Lawwell etc were thinking listening to it.
Can you link to it?

:thumbsup:
I don't think Lawwell or any CFC fan would be surprised at anything Wee Noseratu and the other two clowns have to say.
We have all known for years what they think about the cheating, the tax case and the cover up. Did anyone really think that the decision by the a Supreme Court was going to bring about some sort of Damascene conversion on the part of these muppets?
The idea should be "don't get mad, get even!" :thumbsup:
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