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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,536 Views)
marcella 1981
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Ha! Sure did!
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Tenenbaum
27 Jul 2017, 04:04 PM
LondonThomas
27 Jul 2017, 02:39 PM
Please tell me the board are playing some kind of smart tactical game on the EBT issue and are not just going to try and keep their heads down and hope the issue goes away?
The thing that speaks loudest to me on this issue is the ambition they showed for the first team after the Huns liquidated and Sevco were unfairly parachuted in to the bottom of the professional league system. Instead of pushing on to solidify our place as the eminent team in Scotland and trying to turn us into some sort of European contender, they ran the squad down and looked for all the world like they were just idling the time until Sevco could make an appearance and they could milk their Glasgow 'derby' cash-cow. Not only did it make us look like idiots on the European stage over successive seasons, it also gave everyone the impression that our fate was indeed interlinked with a dead club from across the city. As far as I'm concerned that tells me everything I need to know about where the board stand on the issue. I expect nothing from them, and I'm sure I'll be disappointed even then.
There was no 'parachuting' involved from what I understand. They were an entirely new club which was inserted into the lower league - without having the requisite three years of accounts and in front of other, established, clubs which did. Parachuting infers that they were demoted. They weren't - they died.
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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The Strip the Titles people are putting their weight behind the SFSA. Not sure that's a great tactic.
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Tenenbaum
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Anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?
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marcella 1981
27 Jul 2017, 04:21 PM
Tenenbaum
27 Jul 2017, 04:04 PM
LondonThomas
27 Jul 2017, 02:39 PM
Please tell me the board are playing some kind of smart tactical game on the EBT issue and are not just going to try and keep their heads down and hope the issue goes away?
The thing that speaks loudest to me on this issue is the ambition they showed for the first team after the Huns liquidated and Sevco were unfairly parachuted in to the bottom of the professional league system. Instead of pushing on to solidify our place as the eminent team in Scotland and trying to turn us into some sort of European contender, they ran the squad down and looked for all the world like they were just idling the time until Sevco could make an appearance and they could milk their Glasgow 'derby' cash-cow. Not only did it make us look like idiots on the European stage over successive seasons, it also gave everyone the impression that our fate was indeed interlinked with a dead club from across the city. As far as I'm concerned that tells me everything I need to know about where the board stand on the issue. I expect nothing from them, and I'm sure I'll be disappointed even then.
There was no 'parachuting' involved from what I understand. They were an entirely new club which was inserted into the lower league - without having the requisite three years of accounts and in front of other, established, clubs which did. Parachuting infers that they were demoted. They weren't - they died.
How did a new club manage to leapfrog straight into the professional league system without being 'parachuted'?

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Wanyerma
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paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 04:30 PM
The Strip the Titles people are putting their weight behind the SFSA. Not sure that's a great tactic.
I agree, it's a long grass move, whatever their intentions.
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Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 04:33 PM
paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 04:30 PM
The Strip the Titles people are putting their weight behind the SFSA. Not sure that's a great tactic.
I agree, it's a long grass move, whatever their intentions.
According to the SFSA's website their board is made up by politicians (i.e. professional BS merchants with lots of establishment ties) and include one "3rd Generation Rangers" supporter (yes I thought that club died too).

Call me a cynic but I have no faith in an organization with folk like that at the top who are required to overthrow the old boys network and to make some painful and potentially unpopular decisions to bring about change and justice.

I'll put my faith and money into funding independent legal action with a clear objectives of ridding corruption in the game and stripping titles.
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Wanyerma
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CM1975
27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 04:33 PM
paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 04:30 PM
The Strip the Titles people are putting their weight behind the SFSA. Not sure that's a great tactic.
I agree, it's a long grass move, whatever their intentions.
According to the SFSA's website their board is made up by politicians (i.e. professional BS merchants with lots of establishment ties) and include one "3rd Generation Rangers" supporter (yes I thought that club died too).

Call me a cynic but I have no faith in an organization with folk like that at the top who are required to overthrow the old boys network and to make some painful and potentially unpopular decisions to bring about change and justice.

I'll put my faith and money into funding independent legal action with a clear objectives of ridding corruption in the game and stripping titles.
It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

Conflating overall Scottish football governance with this absolute scandal is in no way acceptable. If Celtic need to go it alone over this, so be it.
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fatboab
19 Jul 2017, 09:07 AM
leangreen
19 Jul 2017, 12:03 AM
Hamillbhoy
9 Jul 2017, 05:24 PM
Wee Fergus would have handed that shower of bowling club arseholes their dinner by now. I dont know wtf is keeping Lawell on co from taking this mob to task
Incompetence and self-interest
I hear the Board are very much "on this" :thumbsup:
...Any update?

Any crumb of comfort would do.
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shugmc
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I was there
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idyllwild
27 Jul 2017, 03:54 PM
Mackin
27 Jul 2017, 02:42 PM
DoubtingThomas
27 Jul 2017, 02:39 PM
Please tell me the board are playing some kind of smart tactical game on the EBT issue and are not just going to try and keep their heads down and hope the issue goes away?
:lol:
Can you not feel that "please tell me" concern? :lol:
Can't say I did :ph43r:
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CM1975
27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 04:33 PM
paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 04:30 PM
The Strip the Titles people are putting their weight behind the SFSA. Not sure that's a great tactic.
I agree, it's a long grass move, whatever their intentions.
According to the SFSA's website their board is made up by politicians (i.e. professional BS merchants with lots of establishment ties) and include one "3rd Generation Rangers" supporter (yes I thought that club died too).

Call me a cynic but I have no faith in an organization with folk like that at the top who are required to overthrow the old boys network and to make some painful and potentially unpopular decisions to bring about change and justice.

I'll put my faith and money into funding independent legal action with a clear objectives of ridding corruption in the game and stripping titles.
Agreed :thumbsup:

I will be more than happy to set up a direct debit for as long as this takes if it is the only way to get a resolution, they cheated and everyone knows they did the rest is smoke and mirrors.
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Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM
CM1975
27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 04:33 PM

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According to the SFSA's website their board is made up by politicians (i.e. professional BS merchants with lots of establishment ties) and include one "3rd Generation Rangers" supporter (yes I thought that club died too).

Call me a cynic but I have no faith in an organization with folk like that at the top who are required to overthrow the old boys network and to make some painful and potentially unpopular decisions to bring about change and justice.

I'll put my faith and money into funding independent legal action with a clear objectives of ridding corruption in the game and stripping titles.
It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

I know a lad who is heavily involved so I think that's a bit harsh. :lol:
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Wanyerma
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paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 10:54 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM
CM1975
27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM

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It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

I know a lad who is heavily involved so I think that's a bit harsh. :lol:
Bet he's called Torcuil or Crawford! :boik:
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Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 11:09 PM
paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 10:54 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM

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I know a lad who is heavily involved so I think that's a bit harsh. :lol:
Bet he's called Torcuil or Crawford! :boik:
Paul (not me!).
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Wanyerma
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paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 11:25 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 11:09 PM
paulfg42
27 Jul 2017, 10:54 PM

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Bet he's called Torcuil or Crawford! :boik:
Paul (not me!).
:lol:

A night out with you two would be like the wedding in Goodfellas!
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Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM
CM1975
27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 04:33 PM

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According to the SFSA's website their board is made up by politicians (i.e. professional BS merchants with lots of establishment ties) and include one "3rd Generation Rangers" supporter (yes I thought that club died too).

Call me a cynic but I have no faith in an organization with folk like that at the top who are required to overthrow the old boys network and to make some painful and potentially unpopular decisions to bring about change and justice.

I'll put my faith and money into funding independent legal action with a clear objectives of ridding corruption in the game and stripping titles.
It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

Conflating overall Scottish football governance with this absolute scandal is in no way acceptable. If Celtic need to go it alone over this, so be it.
The same SFSA set up by the guy who used to run Supporters Direct Scotland? The same SFSA funded by the SFA to be the voice of the fan?

Hmmm...
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Previous people in charge of Celtic have had their faults and they've been laid bare over the years, but I don't know if they'd have sucked this up with nothing more than an ambiguous statement or two in response.

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Celtic are responsible for Celtic fans. That's the top and tail of it. If we're on out own on this, so what? Plenty of fans of other clubs know what it's about even if their scheidtbag owners and chairmen don't. If our own custodians don't act then they go down in Celtic history for all the wrong reasons.
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Ned Rise
28 Jul 2017, 12:58 AM
Celtic are responsible for Celtic fans. That's the top and tail of it. If we're on out own on this, so what? Plenty of fans of other clubs know what it's about even if their scheidtbag owners and chairmen don't. If our own custodians don't act then they go down in Celtic history for all the wrong reasons.
Do you think DD is the person who has to decide where we go with this and is there a possibility he might not want to get involved given the questions being asked about his own separate business practices?

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Kingslim
28 Jul 2017, 01:11 AM
Ned Rise
28 Jul 2017, 12:58 AM
Celtic are responsible for Celtic fans. That's the top and tail of it. If we're on out own on this, so what? Plenty of fans of other clubs know what it's about even if their scheidtbag owners and chairmen don't. If our own custodians don't act then they go down in Celtic history for all the wrong reasons.
Do you think DD is the person who has to decide where we go with this and is there a possibility he might not want to get involved given the questions being asked about his own separate business practices?

I don't know tbh. I'd hope not.

Been out since this afternoon so probably best I don't speculate on any billionaire's business practices. :lol:
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Kingslim
28 Jul 2017, 01:11 AM
Ned Rise
28 Jul 2017, 12:58 AM
Celtic are responsible for Celtic fans. That's the top and tail of it. If we're on out own on this, so what? Plenty of fans of other clubs know what it's about even if their scheidtbag owners and chairmen don't. If our own custodians don't act then they go down in Celtic history for all the wrong reasons.
Do you think DD is the person who has to decide where we go with this and is there a possibility he might not want to get involved given the questions being asked about his own separate business practices?

questions being asked by whom?

only place i've seen it being questioned is ff. :suspect:

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Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 07:45 PM
CM1975
27 Jul 2017, 07:38 PM
Wanyerma
27 Jul 2017, 04:33 PM

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According to the SFSA's website their board is made up by politicians (i.e. professional BS merchants with lots of establishment ties) and include one "3rd Generation Rangers" supporter (yes I thought that club died too).

Call me a cynic but I have no faith in an organization with folk like that at the top who are required to overthrow the old boys network and to make some painful and potentially unpopular decisions to bring about change and justice.

I'll put my faith and money into funding independent legal action with a clear objectives of ridding corruption in the game and stripping titles.
It's a Morningside coffee morning group. Feck that.

Conflating overall Scottish football governance with this absolute scandal is in no way acceptable. If Celtic need to go it alone over this, so be it.
Ever heard of the saying plan long, act short?

After any JR (if it happens) has done its job and disappeared, what will it take to give supporters an input into the many other issues that bedevil the game?

One of the reasons supporters are ignored is that there is no capacity or platform on which they can legitimately stand.

The SFSA, who are independent of the SFA and, unlike the Supporters Direct are not funded by the SFA, are the best bet for introducing that capacity and they have a plan for doing it.

They are as much in favour as any other supporters for regime change but, having to appeal to supporters of all clubs, have to be seen to be more even handed in their approach.

A true story on planning long and acting short. An Engineer was called in by the RAF to advise pilots where to place their bombs in bringing down bridges in Bosnia. He pointed out the best supporting structures to hit not just for maximum effect in closing the bridge but also where rebuilding the supports would be easiest after the war was over. The engineer planned long, the pilots acted short but they worked together.


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