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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,539 Views)
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pads99
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26 Jul 2017, 05:03 PM
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- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards. In a nutshell LNS predetermined outcome-locked in decision
All bases covered
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Wanyerma
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26 Jul 2017, 05:06 PM
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- 26 Jul 2017, 05:03 PM
- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards.
In a nutshell LNS predetermined outcome-locked in decision All bases covered Which if so, suggests a certain former SPFL board member close to home might have questions to answer.
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Timdom come
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26 Jul 2017, 05:08 PM
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- Wailer
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:49 PM
Not sure which thread is the best for the cheating discussions?
Anyway: Grant RussellVerified account @STVGrant 6m6 minutes ago
Neil Doncaster today said he would open the doors to anyone who wants to debate today's decision. An opportunity for many.
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Dubz
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26 Jul 2017, 05:09 PM
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- Wailer
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:49 PM
Not sure which thread is the best for the cheating discussions?
Anyway: Grant RussellVerified account @STVGrant 6m6 minutes ago
Neil Doncaster today said he would open the doors to anyone who wants to debate today's decision. An opportunity for many. Brass neck of the carrot talking about todays decision.
Decision was made a long long time ago.
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Darth Balls
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26 Jul 2017, 06:04 PM
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- GreenWhite67
- 26 Jul 2017, 03:58 PM
From Darkfish on the Huddleboard. - Quote:
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Ok, been keeping stumph about the details of this, but there is a group who are actively progressing the legal petitioning of the courts for a Judicial review of the SFA and SPFL.
This group is not just Celtic fans.
Can't divulge the details yet, but work has been going on in the background for quite some time, and legal council has been lined up.
The window to pursue a petition is very limited, so my earlier thread was mainly to gauge appetite for helping to fund this, on this particular board. The result has been really positive with 95% of people saying they would be willing to contribute.
It is absolutely essential in moving this crowd funding forward that we firstly have discussions with the petitioning group so we support them fully and dont interfere destructively in what they are doing. Secondly its not an exclusive Celtic fans only venture. It is very important that this crowdfunding is not seen as tribal Celtic fans, who have a personal rivalry grudge. It has to be all fans, from all Scottish clubs.
Once we get the nod, I'll release the details of where to contribute, and people can contribute what they want to. This will happen in next few days.
In the first instance, can you all raise awareness of the crowd-funding with other sites you frequent, the more we wrap in now, the quicker we can send a message tho the SFA and SPFL that we as supporters of Scottish football are not willing to accept the whitewash and continued malgovernance that they are hoping will be allowed to continue.
Stay tuned for further developments. can anyone vouch for this poster
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reilly76
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26 Jul 2017, 06:08 PM
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- Darth Balls
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:04 PM
- GreenWhite67
- 26 Jul 2017, 03:58 PM
From Darkfish on the Huddleboard. - Quote:
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Ok, been keeping stumph about the details of this, but there is a group who are actively progressing the legal petitioning of the courts for a Judicial review of the SFA and SPFL.
This group is not just Celtic fans.
Can't divulge the details yet, but work has been going on in the background for quite some time, and legal council has been lined up.
The window to pursue a petition is very limited, so my earlier thread was mainly to gauge appetite for helping to fund this, on this particular board. The result has been really positive with 95% of people saying they would be willing to contribute.
It is absolutely essential in moving this crowd funding forward that we firstly have discussions with the petitioning group so we support them fully and dont interfere destructively in what they are doing. Secondly its not an exclusive Celtic fans only venture. It is very important that this crowdfunding is not seen as tribal Celtic fans, who have a personal rivalry grudge. It has to be all fans, from all Scottish clubs.
Once we get the nod, I'll release the details of where to contribute, and people can contribute what they want to. This will happen in next few days.
In the first instance, can you all raise awareness of the crowd-funding with other sites you frequent, the more we wrap in now, the quicker we can send a message tho the SFA and SPFL that we as supporters of Scottish football are not willing to accept the whitewash and continued malgovernance that they are hoping will be allowed to continue.
Stay tuned for further developments.
can anyone vouch for this poster Darkfish has been around the huddle for years (unless I'm mixing him up with someone else)
Cannae vouch for his info, I've not got a clue
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paulfg42
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26 Jul 2017, 06:14 PM
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards. He gave his learned opinion on the questions he was asked. There are plenty of questions that weren't asked.
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donnybhoy
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26 Jul 2017, 06:23 PM
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First name on the team-sheet
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- paulfg42
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:14 PM
- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards.
He gave his learned opinion on the questions he was asked. There are plenty of questions that weren't asked. Get 20 lawyers in a room and you will get at least 21opinions. There are also opinions and opinions.
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murphio
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26 Jul 2017, 06:26 PM
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Could start a row in an empty room
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- paulfg42
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:14 PM
- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards.
He gave his learned opinion on the questions he was asked. There are plenty of questions that weren't asked. Importantly though - his learned opinion appears to indicate the original decision was final and binding. Which seems utterly disgraceful to me - surely the appeals process is at the cornerstone of the justice system? Not only did they whitewash the original enquiry but they also prevented a proper one - based on the final and binding Supreme Court ruling - from being heard.
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Wanyerma
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26 Jul 2017, 06:39 PM
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- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:26 PM
- paulfg42
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:14 PM
- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards.
He gave his learned opinion on the questions he was asked. There are plenty of questions that weren't asked.
Importantly though - his learned opinion appears to indicate the original decision was final and binding. Which seems utterly disgraceful to me - surely the appeals process is at the cornerstone of the justice system? Not only did they whitewash the original enquiry but they also prevented a proper one - based on the final and binding Supreme Court ruling - from being heard. But it's utter manure, Murph. Legally final and binding to protect whom? There is no victim in reopening what was at best a flawed, and at worst a corrupt investigation. Reopening it in the face of 12 years of confirmed cheating is the absolute minimum that should occur.
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pedrok
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26 Jul 2017, 06:40 PM
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- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:26 PM
- paulfg42
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:14 PM
- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards.
He gave his learned opinion on the questions he was asked. There are plenty of questions that weren't asked.
Importantly though - his learned opinion appears to indicate the original decision was final and binding. Which seems utterly disgraceful to me - surely the appeals process is at the cornerstone of the justice system? Not only did they whitewash the original enquiry but they also prevented a proper one - based on the final and binding Supreme Court ruling - from being heard. Didn't the SFA step back in order to be the body for an appeal?
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Lubo67
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26 Jul 2017, 06:41 PM
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What are the implications of just pulling out the league all together
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Ned Rise
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26 Jul 2017, 06:42 PM
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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- Lubo67
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:41 PM
What are the implications of just pulling out the league all together No one to play against?
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CM1975
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26 Jul 2017, 06:50 PM
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- Lubo67
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:41 PM
What are the implications of just pulling out the league all together No 10 in a row?
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Lubo67
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26 Jul 2017, 06:50 PM
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- Ned Rise
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- 26 Jul 2017, 06:41 PM
What are the implications of just pulling out the league all together
No one to play against? League would shampooe it big time.
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Jackie was my hero
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26 Jul 2017, 07:18 PM
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Time for Lawwell to shampooe or get off the pot.
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kkc08
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26 Jul 2017, 08:16 PM
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- jamiebhoy76
- 26 Jul 2017, 12:48 PM
- paulfg42
- 26 Jul 2017, 12:39 PM
Laughing at how they got a feniany sounding QC to deliver their resounding no to justice in Scottish football. It does put the SFA's arrogant statement to shame by at least providing a reasoned argument and not treating us completely as mugs.
Thought it was just me Doncaster's interview was reminiscent of The Cardigan's "Mr Murphy" comment .
Edited by kkc08, 26 Jul 2017, 08:24 PM.
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exiledinstonehaventim
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26 Jul 2017, 08:28 PM
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- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:26 PM
- paulfg42
- 26 Jul 2017, 06:14 PM
- murphio
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:57 PM
There is surely no reason to disbelieve the QC's position on this which, to me, exposes the biggest disgrace in all this - not only did they conduct a whitewash but apparently they included a lock in mechanism which made any revisiting of it difficult or impossible. A shower of no good, cheating, corrupt bastards.
He gave his learned opinion on the questions he was asked. There are plenty of questions that weren't asked.
Importantly though - his learned opinion appears to indicate the original decision was final and binding. Which seems utterly disgraceful to me - surely the appeals process is at the cornerstone of the justice system? Not only did they whitewash the original enquiry but they also prevented a proper one - based on the final and binding Supreme Court ruling - from being heard. One opinion.
Two ways this pans out:
1. There is a case presented for judicial review(based on SC decision)
2. There is corruption in the governing bodies (because they say regardless of the SC decision LNS closed off any further review)
I'm going to say now without fear of any possible legal contradiction that unless celtic (and other clubs) signed up to a stitch up this whole thing CAN be revisited because of SC decision.
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McStay_8
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26 Jul 2017, 08:34 PM
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- Busa Bhoy
- 26 Jul 2017, 04:21 PM
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- 26 Jul 2017, 11:37 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't give a eff about whether they get stripped or not?
seriously? Yes very. I've worked in companies and industry all over that are as rigged as eff. Take a look at sport across the world from the olympics to pro boxing. Rigged all over.
Does it make it right? No.
But am I going to spend energy bumping gums on the internet to no affect? Nope.
Continue to enjoy getting all worked up about it though. Im quite happy to look at where they are now and where we are. Feels pretty good to me. They aren't even the same club - it died. They know that as well as any of us.
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lubolubo
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26 Jul 2017, 09:36 PM
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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- McStay_8
- 26 Jul 2017, 08:34 PM
- Busa Bhoy
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- 26 Jul 2017, 11:37 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't give a eff about whether they get stripped or not?
seriously?
Yes very. I've worked in companies and industry all over that are as rigged as eff. Take a look at sport across the world from the olympics to pro boxing. Rigged all over. Does it make it right? No. But am I going to spend energy bumping gums on the internet to no affect? Nope. Continue to enjoy getting all worked up about it though. Im quite happy to look at where they are now and where we are. Feels pretty good to me. They aren't even the same club - it died. They know that as well as any of us. Nah. It's meant to be sport, not WWE, if it's a blatantly rigged game why bother with it? Plenty of other distractions for my time and money ultimately.
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