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| The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,978 Views) | |
| Willie Wonka | 5 Aug 2014, 08:12 PM Post #941 |
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Slavery fled, oh glorious dead
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And the whole club suffers. The further you go down, the bigger, and more expensive the climb back. Even decent celtic sides in the 80s often drew less than, well less than 30k at home. Consistent downsizing of quality and ability will just lead to more apathy, sevco in the top league or not. I've not got a problem with the overall strategy, neither do I think moneys being salted off into some account but by God the strategy could be worked a damn sight better. |
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| Clydebank Bhoy | 5 Aug 2014, 08:13 PM Post #942 |
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Not as sad as psychoheart
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Last line absolutely nails it for me. |
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| wigwam | 5 Aug 2014, 08:33 PM Post #943 |
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Older than dirt
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Exactly, we all assumed buying players (like Ki, Hooper, Wanyama, VVD, Forster) , developing for 2 or 3 seasons, selling to England at higher price would mean more funds to buy a higher quality of player to do the same with. Given we've also had 2 years' CL money over that period it's mind boggling that we have invested more, or someone's ego got out of control and they thought they had the Midas touch and got lazy, landing us with Bangura, Balde, etc. I'll leave Biton, Johannsen and Pukki out as they are at least decent level players, if not going to be able to be sold like the previous batch for higher money. As for the meekness comment, I think push is about to come to shove on that front and this time next week there are going to be a lot of angry punters out there looking for answers. It's been hard to argue while the league has been won and CL attained, even though most of us can see beyond those stats to the general decline in quality. |
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| scarman | 5 Aug 2014, 08:34 PM Post #944 |
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Occasional Substitute
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Whatever I said last year at this time. Cos nothing has changed. And Pl should resign. Clueless. |
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| Corky Buczek | 5 Aug 2014, 09:58 PM Post #945 |
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Trolololo
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But he won't. As another poster says, he is Bombproof it would appear. |
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| crtmmc | 5 Aug 2014, 11:27 PM Post #946 |
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Shining bright
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Being a bit skeptical I wonder whether the major shareholders have some other way of being remunerated other than the dividends or to be blunt filtering money into their back pockets. Some form of creative accounting that disguises where the money is going. Is this possible? A lot of banks used to offer their employees shares as an alternative to cash bonus but if the shares were kept for three years then they got a free top up of 50% extra shares. Surely our major shareholders could employ similar schemes or does that have to be openly declared. |
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| Lobey Dosser | 5 Aug 2014, 11:56 PM Post #947 |
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Considering retirement
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We are a public limited company, everything has to be openly declared. |
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| daleybhoy | 6 Aug 2014, 03:33 PM Post #948 |
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First-team captain
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It allows them to swan around feeling like "custodians" and to go their old grannies and show how big time they are. For most of them it will be a mixture of a hobby and a privilege. Also give them access to a place to meet and greet potential customers as well as networking with other business types. Unless you're the huns where it allows a whole load of shysters an opportunity to legitimise themselves as real proper business types and not gangsters/fraudsters etc etc |
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| Belgrano | 6 Aug 2014, 06:32 PM Post #949 |
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It's the law of diminishing returns in terms of the board's strategy of selling off our best players each summer, for the past 4 years. Sure, you can buy a player on the cheap, develop him, and sell him at a profit to an English side. All the time, you can also qualify for the Champions League. The combined incomes from both cover the running costs of the club, and subsidises the low incomes generated from the domestic Scottish league. But then, if it was that easy - wouldn't everyone be doing it? I know most of the teams in the English Premier League seem to be rolling in crazy money. But surely they'd far rather buy a player for say, £1-2m, rather than buy them for us for £10-12m? The reality is, it's very difficult to nurture a £1.5m player into a £12m player. We've kinda got lucky with the McGeady, Ki and Wanyama deals. And the board deserve credit for them. But they handled the Hooper, Ledley and Samaras deals awfully. And the likes of Balde, Pukki and Bangura prove that it's much harder to do in reality than in practice. We're now at a stage where if we sell Forster and Van Dijk (which, all indications are that we're trying to) there is pretty much no-one left who I think we could get a good transfer fee for. Add to that, the overall quality of the squad has been diluted to such a degree now that I very much doubt we'll qualify for the Champions League this year (and probably not next year if the trend continues) then it really is difficult to see what the policy has achieved? That's before you even take into account that the fans are becoming increasingly scunnered with the whole thing, and won't turn up in the same number or invest the same in tickets to watch such an inferior product. No matter what way you look at it, it's difficult to see how it couldn't have been approached differently, and there's definitely a feeling that the board have effed up (and what has made it all the worse, is just how inevitable and how obvious it was going to happen). |
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| josephledley | 6 Aug 2014, 07:15 PM Post #950 |
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First-team starter
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he's not if we as fans get up off our backsides and do something about it |
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| Corky Buczek | 6 Aug 2014, 08:32 PM Post #951 |
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Trolololo
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Your friend will be looking for the discount |
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| pauldg1 | 6 Aug 2014, 09:05 PM Post #952 |
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A spray tanned Furby, eating KFC and screaming at a Gold Star family
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eff them. This is their faults. pumpkins.
Edited by pauldg1, 6 Aug 2014, 09:06 PM.
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| MartyBhoyCfc | 6 Aug 2014, 09:06 PM Post #953 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Lets get this shower to eff away from our club. |
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| Deleted User | 6 Aug 2014, 09:09 PM Post #954 |
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Lawwell out. |
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| harryhoodshatrick | 6 Aug 2014, 09:10 PM Post #955 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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We never learnt from wgs time as manager when he wasn't given £3.5m to sign fletcher and this probably cost us 3 champions league money. |
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| Deebhoy | 6 Aug 2014, 09:13 PM Post #956 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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| Joe the Baker | 6 Aug 2014, 09:26 PM Post #957 |
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It feels like yesterday... I wish it was tomorrow.
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The Europa league play off tie better be on the effing season ticket after this shambles. |
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| JonnyB67 | 6 Aug 2014, 09:31 PM Post #958 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Shambles. They haven't backed the manager and downsized everything. Everything apart from Pedro's bonus. |
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| bigpoppapump | 6 Aug 2014, 09:34 PM Post #959 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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twist |
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| Mickeybhoy84 | 6 Aug 2014, 09:38 PM Post #960 |
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Living the dream
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The team struggled to beat a poor Kazakh team in last years qualifiers, the board did nothing about it. Attendances have been falling, the board have done nothing about it. The previous manager left because of the lack of funds and potential replacements knocked us back for much the same reason, the board have done nothing about it. I wonder what they'll do now that they don't have the safety net of CL money? |
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