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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,545 Views)
tomtheleedstim
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25 Jul 2017, 08:48 PM
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25 Jul 2017, 08:33 PM
tomtheleedstim
25 Jul 2017, 08:20 PM

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What's your plan to force this then?
We can start with crowd funding for a judicial review.

This is already being initiated by some knowledgeable people according to RTC and we'll shortly be able to donate toward the cost of doing so.

Keep the Faith. :thumbsup:
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25 Jul 2017, 07:40 PM
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25 Jul 2017, 07:33 PM
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25 Jul 2017, 07:29 PM

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This refusal to act from Celtic, the SFA and the SPFL could lead to armageddon this time.

Hope that chair is solid btw.
They're banking that it won't, and I'm not sure they're wrong. We'll see.

But as for the chair ...

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idyllwild
25 Jul 2017, 08:56 PM
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It is still ridiculous though.

Last year there were 53,000 at the Astana home game and the game was available to all on Celtic TV, and presumably also in Kazakh TV.

Going by the stadium map for the game tomorrow there are no more than a handful in each section at best. Even with 900 down in one section, 53,000 minimum seems guaranteed. So what's changed?

If the game is available on Celtic TV in the rest of the world there will still be streams. What does it matter then if you sell coverage to Norwegian TV? I am assuming there is not simply zero money in this. Even if the fee is £50,000, that's maybe the equivalent of 1800 ticket sales as it is.

And as for an advantage? Bollocks. The difference between 53,000 and maybe 54,500 makes no odds at all to what we are capable of doing tomorrow.

Illiterate decision by Celtic TV that doesn't seem to be replicated anywhere else in Europe for these qualifiers.

Thankfully it will be taken out of the club's hands next season if there is a market pool for the earlier qualifiers.
Maybe my age, but I don't see it as a right that every Celtic game should be live on TV.

If the club don't want to do it, that's entirely their prerogative. It's hardly "illiterate".
The game is live though. Like every single Celtic game played these days, including our first pre season warm up on a farm in Austria against fourth tier opposition. In the "rest of the world" on Celtic TV. Streams will follow as a result.

It is therefore nonsensical, especially for the laughable reasons given.

It appears some of this might be more down to the inadequacies of Celtic TV because of their failure last week. They perhaps know people will simply look for a Norwegian TV link that is likely to be much more reliable than their own roulette approach to providing live coverage to big games.
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25 Jul 2017, 08:13 PM

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I think Celtic would need to be "encouraged" by the support before they'd act like they should.
Let's not be like the Huns, waiting for someone to step up for us.
It has to be us. If we want it to happen it will effing happen. It really is up to us. Me and you.
CGAF about the hun support. My point is that I don't believe 50,000 Celtic ST holders will be able to organise themselves to threaten to bring the game down.

Celtic can do it though.
A few determined Celtic fans have brought it to this point. They just need the support of as many of us as we can muster.
The Green Brigade captured the imagination of many with the Match the Fine for Palestine campaign.
It was powerful and raised a lot of money.
I'd love to see a similar, popular campaign to force action against the guilty parties involved the EBT/Res12/DOS related shenanigans.
We need the wider Celtic support to get involved, along with any other motivated groups from other clubs.

There's been murder on here for a few days over the Green Brigade's latest faux pas. I can't help thinking the GB could make a hell of a difference to this campaign for justice if they got involved.
Wheels seem to be turning and we all might get a chance to contribute yet. If we want.

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25 Jul 2017, 08:20 PM

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What's your plan to force this then?
Its going to have to take people cleverer than me or we're truly doomed :lol:
I will try and support those people with the relevant talent and knowledge to make the plans happen.
It's probably going to need significant crowdfunding, targeting and resolve. Those of us who genuinely feel that we have been cheated by the cabal that runs Scottish football need to step up. Put the carrots in court.
Who the eff are they? Why do put up with this corrupt shampooe?
eff that. Fight back, let's change things.
We can do anything. We are the many and they are the few.
I'm all for this and I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, I'd like to know what the crowd funding will go towards and what exactly it will be used for
What is the mechanism going to be for getting them into court?
What will the charges be and how will they be brought?
What do we think the outcome will ultimately be?

Questions not necessarily for you, more to anyone who's "in the know" up to this point
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25 Jul 2017, 09:39 PM
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25 Jul 2017, 08:59 PM
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25 Jul 2017, 08:33 PM

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Its going to have to take people cleverer than me or we're truly doomed :lol:
I will try and support those people with the relevant talent and knowledge to make the plans happen.
It's probably going to need significant crowdfunding, targeting and resolve. Those of us who genuinely feel that we have been cheated by the cabal that runs Scottish football need to step up. Put the carrots in court.
Who the eff are they? Why do put up with this corrupt shampooe?
eff that. Fight back, let's change things.
We can do anything. We are the many and they are the few.
I'm all for this and I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, I'd like to know what the crowd funding will go towards and what exactly it will be used for
What is the mechanism going to be for getting them into court?
What will the charges be and how will they be brought?
What do we think the outcome will ultimately be?

Questions not necessarily for you, more to anyone who's "in the know" up to this point
Waiting for the same vehicle myself :thumbsup:
Offering my support to those who will make the leap of faith required that they will not be left alone.
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From my very limited knowledge, we won't have to wait long as this needs to get rolling ASAP but needs to be done correctly so the money isn't squandered.
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25 Jul 2017, 04:08 PM
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25 Jul 2017, 03:59 PM
In the last few months, and this is off the top of my head, The Suits at Celtic are guilty of:

- failure to demand SPFL/SFA appropriately discipline Ibrox huns over the pitch invasion and throwing of missiles at Celtic players in the 1-5 game
- failure to demand appropriate retrospective action against the Aberdeen player who broke KT's jaw in the Cup final, and the officials who ignored it
- failure to stand up to UEFA over Linfield's inability to comply with the terms of the CL qualifier draw
- failure to allow Celtic fans the chance to support the team
- failure to condemn Linfield huns for the racist abuse of Celtic players
- failure to demand UEFA discipline Linfield huns over racist abuse of Celtic players
- failure to pressure UEFA to rescind Griffith's booking when he was protecting himself from missiles
- failure to instil confidence that they are seriously committed to pursuing justice over cheating huns & corrupt SFA
- failure to manage the fallout from the Linfield home game

I knocked this list up after reading about the PF's decision to wash it's hands of the Ajax scum who wreaked such havoc and caused so much harm to Celtic supporters. At the time, it occurred to many on here that the club ought to be demanding answers from Police Scotland as to why such a large mob of armed hooligans could be allowed to be at large, never mind evade it's police escort shortly before it approached the Gallowgate, and then get a clear 10 minutes to assault innocent victims. I don't recall any public record of Celtic even expressing concern that this could occur, never mind demanding an explanation.

This Board are not protecting our fans, not even protecting our players.
This board main concern is sanitising the Celtic support.

They are not interested in ruffling any feathers in any other direction. They want a Scottish version of Man U/City fans.
The Celtic support need to make their feelings known, either way....

Exactly

Celtic and PL were in on the LNS fix.

When you dont want to rock the boat and jepordise your million quid a year then the "staus quo" looks good.

Thats why nothing will happen.
Bollox on being in on it.

The first anyone realised dates had changed and consequences was in 2014 when SFM wrote to Harper MacLeod pointing out the latter to them and consequences of requested material not being provided.

See https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6uWzxhblAt9dnVHSl9OU3RoWm8/view?usp=sharing for the narrative.

SPL Board copied in on the material sent to Harper MacLeod which included Celtic but decision was to wait for the appeals to end. Right course of action as no charges should have been brought before final ebt legality decision.

LNS hatched between Regan and Doncaster which is clear from the narrative. SFA either had knowledge of wtc background in 2011 or Rangers failed to provide HMRC letter May 2011 as part of UEFA Licensing monitoring. See The Offshore Game last Nov.

http://www.theoffshoregame.net/sfa-admits-it-did-know-about-rangers-unlawful-tax-avoidance-scheme-at-time-of-nimmo-smith-inquiry/

This is why they don't want an outside enquiry. If there was an explanation that stood up it would be out by now.
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tomtheleedstim
25 Jul 2017, 09:45 PM
henrikisgod
25 Jul 2017, 09:39 PM
tomtheleedstim
25 Jul 2017, 08:59 PM

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I'm all for this and I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, I'd like to know what the crowd funding will go towards and what exactly it will be used for
What is the mechanism going to be for getting them into court?
What will the charges be and how will they be brought?
What do we think the outcome will ultimately be?

Questions not necessarily for you, more to anyone who's "in the know" up to this point
Waiting for the same vehicle myself :thumbsup:
Offering my support to those who will make the leap of faith required that they will not be left alone.
I've heard that a/some wealthy supporter/s are willing to take SFA to court.

There is enough evidence from Res12 and LNS misleading by Duff and Phelps to at least obtain legal opinion on the merits of the case.

It would make sense to wait for that to coalesce then contribute , but best to establish the merits and chances of winning using the prime source.

It still might not be required.
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25 Jul 2017, 08:59 PM
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25 Jul 2017, 08:33 PM

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Its going to have to take people cleverer than me or we're truly doomed :lol:
I will try and support those people with the relevant talent and knowledge to make the plans happen.
It's probably going to need significant crowdfunding, targeting and resolve. Those of us who genuinely feel that we have been cheated by the cabal that runs Scottish football need to step up. Put the carrots in court.
Who the eff are they? Why do put up with this corrupt shampooe?
eff that. Fight back, let's change things.
We can do anything. We are the many and they are the few.
I'm all for this and I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, I'd like to know what the crowd funding will go towards and what exactly it will be used for
What is the mechanism going to be for getting them into court?
What will the charges be and how will they be brought?
What do we think the outcome will ultimately be?

Questions not necessarily for you, more to anyone who's "in the know" up to this point
All good points that need to be established.

I can only repeat what I was told from an indirect source but I see rangerstaxcase applauding the efforts of those starting the ball rolling.
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25 Jul 2017, 10:09 PM
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Waiting for the same vehicle myself :thumbsup:
Offering my support to those who will make the leap of faith required that they will not be left alone.
I've heard that a/some wealthy supporter/s are willing to take SFA to court.

There is enough evidence from Res12 and LNS misleading by Duff and Phelps to at least obtain legal opinion on the merits of the case.

It would make sense to wait for that to coalesce then contribute , but best to establish the merits and chances of winning using the prime source.

It still might not be required.
This is welcome news Auldyin :thumbsup:
We need a point to rally around. I'm sure there are are many Celtic supporters who are willing to support the most convincing line of attack. People have had enough.
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i can do little on the ground stuff, but will defo put a donation in. I asked before is there no move to bring all our organisations and bloggers together to plan a strategy.
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If it's left to the supporters to take action, every single member in that Celtic boardroom needs hunted.
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25 Jul 2017, 07:41 PM
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Norwegian fans claiming Celtic rejected offers from their TV stations and it won't be shown in Norway.

What you expecting them to do?

Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed.

I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage.
Is it not so that vindictive bastard Lawwell can stop the GB from watching it at the social club? :ph43r:
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If it's left to the supporters to take action, every single member in that Celtic boardroom needs hunted.
They've needed hunted for a long time. Success on the pitch last season masked that fact, but they've not changed one bit.
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They've needed hunted for a long time. Success on the pitch last season masked that fact, but they've not changed one bit.
Aye. I'd agree with that.

However, we're in a bit of a minority. I think lack of action over this would push the majority of fans into full scale Lawwell GTF mode. I'd hope so, anyway.
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What time can we expect the SPFL statement?
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What time can we expect the SPFL statement?
Quarter to 8 the night :hmmm:
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I'm gutted it's not on tv, stuck at work and no Internet option. Need to try n find out what radio station has coverage like the old days 😂
Fair play auld yin being on top of the finer details of all that. They probably banked on no one clever enough picking up on it. At the very least we know they are at it.
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Exactly

Celtic and PL were in on the LNS fix.

When you dont want to rock the boat and jepordise your million quid a year then the "staus quo" looks good.

Thats why nothing will happen.
Bollox on being in on it.

The first anyone realised dates had changed and consequences was in 2014 when SFM wrote to Harper MacLeod pointing out the latter to them and consequences of requested material not being provided.

See https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6uWzxhblAt9dnVHSl9OU3RoWm8/view?usp=sharing for the narrative.

SPL Board copied in on the material sent to Harper MacLeod which included Celtic but decision was to wait for the appeals to end. Right course of action as no charges should have been brought before final ebt legality decision.

LNS hatched between Regan and Doncaster which is clear from the narrative. SFA either had knowledge of wtc background in 2011 or Rangers failed to provide HMRC letter May 2011 as part of UEFA Licensing monitoring. See The Offshore Game last Nov.

http://www.theoffshoregame.net/sfa-admits-it-did-know-about-rangers-unlawful-tax-avoidance-scheme-at-time-of-nimmo-smith-inquiry/

This is why they don't want an outside enquiry. If there was an explanation that stood up it would be out by now.
Naive

Rod McKenzie and PL are close business and personal contacts.
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