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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,546 Views)
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Joe the Baker
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25 Jul 2017, 07:33 PM
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It feels like yesterday... I wish it was tomorrow.
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Board deciding not to sell TV rights to Norwegian TV totally screwing over RBK fans.
"Football without the fans is nothing"?
They'll tap into the history of the club when they pick and choose it seems. They're absolute hypocrites.
Pretty sure that statement wasn't a reference to people sat on their couch watching TV in Norway. No problem at all with the club blocking TV coverage, presumably as the intention is to sell as many tickets to the game as possible. Yep.
Those Norwegians will have little choice now but to hop on a flight tomorrow morning.
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Wailer
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25 Jul 2017, 07:35 PM
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Board deciding not to sell TV rights to Norwegian TV totally screwing over RBK fans.
"Football without the fans is nothing"?
They'll tap into the history of the club when they pick and choose it seems. They're absolute hypocrites.
Pretty sure that statement wasn't a reference to people sat on their couch watching TV in Norway. No problem at all with the club blocking TV coverage, presumably as the intention is to sell as many tickets to the game as possible.
Yep. Those Norwegians will have little choice now but to hop on a flight tomorrow morning. They can afford it, they get a share of their countries oil revenue whilst we allow the oil companies not to pay tax.
For another thread I think.
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LoveCeltic
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25 Jul 2017, 07:36 PM
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Board deciding not to sell TV rights to Norwegian TV totally screwing over RBK fans.
"Football without the fans is nothing"?
They'll tap into the history of the club when they pick and choose it seems. They're absolute hypocrites.
Pretty sure that statement wasn't a reference to people sat on their couch watching TV in Norway. No problem at all with the club blocking TV coverage, presumably as the intention is to sell as many tickets to the game as possible. Norwegian fans claiming Celtic rejected offers from their TV stations and it won't be shown in Norway.
What you expecting them to do?
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Tim Waits
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25 Jul 2017, 07:40 PM
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Small-Minded Bien-Pensant
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- Wailer
- 25 Jul 2017, 07:15 PM
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I am going to endow the Wailer Chair For Management Studies at Harvard Business School, because this is really the key question at the heart of the viability of any business: how much shampoo will your customers eat while still coming back to purchase your product? Everyone has their own tipping point, but the Board is comprised of people smart enough to guess how far they can push things, and where they can let things slide, and still sell a ton of tickets to the largest potential customer base.
This refusal to act from Celtic, the SFA and the SPFL could lead to armageddon this time. Hope that chair is solid btw. They're banking that it won't, and I'm not sure they're wrong. We'll see.
But as for the chair ...
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idyllwild
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25 Jul 2017, 07:41 PM
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Board deciding not to sell TV rights to Norwegian TV totally screwing over RBK fans.
"Football without the fans is nothing"?
They'll tap into the history of the club when they pick and choose it seems. They're absolute hypocrites.
Pretty sure that statement wasn't a reference to people sat on their couch watching TV in Norway. No problem at all with the club blocking TV coverage, presumably as the intention is to sell as many tickets to the game as possible.
Norwegian fans claiming Celtic rejected offers from their TV stations and it won't be shown in Norway. What you expecting them to do? Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed.
I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage.
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LoveCeltic
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25 Jul 2017, 07:44 PM
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Norwegian fans claiming Celtic rejected offers from their TV stations and it won't be shown in Norway. What you expecting them to do?
Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed. I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage. Vice versa happens for the game in Norway/the next round to us would you not be bothered?
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idyllwild
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25 Jul 2017, 07:47 PM
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Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed. I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage.
Vice versa happens for the game in Norway/the next round to us would you not be bothered? Their prerogative, and if they choose to do that for their benefit, so be it.
It can't happen in the next round.
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ronny_is_not_da_man
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25 Jul 2017, 07:47 PM
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed. I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage.
Vice versa happens for the game in Norway/the next round to us would you not be bothered? Premier Sports have the second leg. We are under no obligation to sell the rights to anyone.
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Wailer
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25 Jul 2017, 07:48 PM
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- 25 Jul 2017, 07:29 PM
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This refusal to act from Celtic, the SFA and the SPFL could lead to armageddon this time. Hope that chair is solid btw.
They're banking that it won't, and I'm not sure they're wrong. We'll see. But as for the chair ... Spoiler: click to toggle
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Timdom come
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25 Jul 2017, 08:00 PM
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This refusal to act from Celtic, the SFA and the SPFL could lead to armageddon this time. Hope that chair is solid btw.
They're banking that it won't, and I'm not sure they're wrong. We'll see. But as for the chair ... Spoiler: click to toggle At present it looks more like they'd pay for a couse at Trump University.
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tomtheleedstim
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25 Jul 2017, 08:02 PM
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- idyllwild
- 25 Jul 2017, 07:13 PM
The addressing of this issue relies wholly with the Celtic board.
Right now, the SFA/SPFL will do nothing because that's the pragmatic thing to do. This is the easy option. Taking titles away from Rangers will cause them far more grief than not taking the titles.
The only thing within Scottish football which has the clout to force the issue is the Celtic board. Will they do it? Of course not. Disagree mate. They could have that clout and influence but choose not to do so.
The addressing of this issue lies with us. We will make the board act if we want to. We force them, they force the SFA/SPFL etc. There are no signs that it will be any other way. It's up to us.
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idyllwild
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25 Jul 2017, 08:13 PM
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The addressing of this issue relies wholly with the Celtic board.
Right now, the SFA/SPFL will do nothing because that's the pragmatic thing to do. This is the easy option. Taking titles away from Rangers will cause them far more grief than not taking the titles.
The only thing within Scottish football which has the clout to force the issue is the Celtic board. Will they do it? Of course not.
Disagree mate. They could have that clout and influence but choose not to do so. The addressing of this issue lies with us. We will make the board act if we want to. We force them, they force the SFA/SPFL etc. There are no signs that it will be any other way. It's up to us. The support don't have the ability to organise themselves to the degree required, such that they can threaten to bring down the game as it stands.
Celtic are the only organisation big enough to do this.
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tomtheleedstim
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25 Jul 2017, 08:20 PM
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The addressing of this issue relies wholly with the Celtic board.
Right now, the SFA/SPFL will do nothing because that's the pragmatic thing to do. This is the easy option. Taking titles away from Rangers will cause them far more grief than not taking the titles.
The only thing within Scottish football which has the clout to force the issue is the Celtic board. Will they do it? Of course not.
Disagree mate. They could have that clout and influence but choose not to do so. The addressing of this issue lies with us. We will make the board act if we want to. We force them, they force the SFA/SPFL etc. There are no signs that it will be any other way. It's up to us.
The support don't have the ability to organise themselves to the degree required, such that they can threaten to bring down the game as it stands. Celtic are the only organisation big enough to do this. I think Celtic would need to be "encouraged" by the support before they'd act like they should. Let's not be like the Huns, waiting for someone to step up for us. It has to be us. If we want it to happen it will effing happen. It really is up to us. Me and you.
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henrikisgod
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25 Jul 2017, 08:33 PM
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The support don't have the ability to organise themselves to the degree required, such that they can threaten to bring down the game as it stands. Celtic are the only organisation big enough to do this.
I think Celtic would need to be "encouraged" by the support before they'd act like they should. Let's not be like the Huns, waiting for someone to step up for us. It has to be us. If we want it to happen it will effing happen. It really is up to us. Me and you. What's your plan to force this then?
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TheMaestro
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25 Jul 2017, 08:39 PM
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Norwegian fans claiming Celtic rejected offers from their TV stations and it won't be shown in Norway. What you expecting them to do?
Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed. I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage. £22 for a month of Celtic TV if any rosenborg fan wants it. And it should mean we should sell more tickets. Fair enough.
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CM1975
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25 Jul 2017, 08:48 PM
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I think Celtic would need to be "encouraged" by the support before they'd act like they should. Let's not be like the Huns, waiting for someone to step up for us. It has to be us. If we want it to happen it will effing happen. It really is up to us. Me and you.
What's your plan to force this then? We can start with crowd funding for a judicial review.
This is already being initiated by some knowledgeable people according to RTC and we'll shortly be able to donate toward the cost of doing so.
Keep the Faith.
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Forza
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25 Jul 2017, 08:53 PM
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Norwegian fans claiming Celtic rejected offers from their TV stations and it won't be shown in Norway. What you expecting them to do?
Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed. I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage. It is still ridiculous though.
Last year there were 53,000 at the Astana home game and the game was available to all on Celtic TV, and presumably also in Kazakh TV.
Going by the stadium map for the game tomorrow there are no more than a handful in each section at best. Even with 900 down in one section, 53,000 minimum seems guaranteed. So what's changed?
If the game is available on Celtic TV in the rest of the world there will still be streams. What does it matter then if you sell coverage to Norwegian TV? I am assuming there is not simply zero money in this. Even if the fee is £50,000, that's maybe the equivalent of 1800 ticket sales as it is.
And as for an advantage? Bollocks. The difference between 53,000 and maybe 54,500 makes no odds at all to what we are capable of doing tomorrow.
Illiterate decision by Celtic TV that doesn't seem to be replicated anywhere else in Europe for these qualifiers.
Thankfully it will be taken out of the club's hands next season if there is a market pool for the earlier qualifiers.
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idyllwild
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25 Jul 2017, 08:53 PM
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The support don't have the ability to organise themselves to the degree required, such that they can threaten to bring down the game as it stands. Celtic are the only organisation big enough to do this.
I think Celtic would need to be "encouraged" by the support before they'd act like they should. Let's not be like the Huns, waiting for someone to step up for us. It has to be us. If we want it to happen it will effing happen. It really is up to us. Me and you. CGAF about the hun support. My point is that I don't believe 50,000 Celtic ST holders will be able to organise themselves to threaten to bring the game down.
Celtic can do it though.
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idyllwild
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25 Jul 2017, 08:56 PM
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Nothing, I can see why they're annoyed. I'm not bothered though, particularly when the reasoning behind is to try to give us an advantage.
It is still ridiculous though. Last year there were 53,000 at the Astana home game and the game was available to all on Celtic TV, and presumably also in Kazakh TV. Going by the stadium map for the game tomorrow there are no more than a handful in each section at best. Even with 900 down in one section, 53,000 minimum seems guaranteed. So what's changed? If the game is available on Celtic TV in the rest of the world there will still be streams. What does it matter then if you sell coverage to Norwegian TV? I am assuming there is not simply zero money in this. Even if the fee is £50,000, that's maybe the equivalent of 1800 ticket sales as it is. And as for an advantage? Bollocks. The difference between 53,000 and maybe 54,500 makes no odds at all to what we are capable of doing tomorrow. Illiterate decision by Celtic TV that doesn't seem to be replicated anywhere else in Europe for these qualifiers. Thankfully it will be taken out of the club's hands next season if there is a market pool for the earlier qualifiers. Maybe my age, but I don't see it as a right that every Celtic game should be live on TV.
If the club don't want to do it, that's entirely their prerogative. It's hardly "illiterate".
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tomtheleedstim
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25 Jul 2017, 08:59 PM
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I think Celtic would need to be "encouraged" by the support before they'd act like they should. Let's not be like the Huns, waiting for someone to step up for us. It has to be us. If we want it to happen it will effing happen. It really is up to us. Me and you.
What's your plan to force this then? Its going to have to take people cleverer than me or we're truly doomed I will try and support those people with the relevant talent and knowledge to make the plans happen. It's probably going to need significant crowdfunding, targeting and resolve. Those of us who genuinely feel that we have been cheated by the cabal that runs Scottish football need to step up. Put the carrots in court. Who the eff are they? Why do put up with this corrupt shampooe? eff that. Fight back, let's change things. We can do anything. We are the many and they are the few.
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