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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,565 Views)
bongo
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BombJack
17 Dec 2016, 02:34 PM
So what's the latest on Res 12?
Etims

Could be unrelated :ponder:
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I have a feeling it isn't tho. Which really concerns me. If the club doesn't have an interest in taking this further, the incumbents must be ousted.
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Agreed.

The guys twitter posts indicate he wants time to reflect/rationalise before commenting more.

This is a line in the sand for a number of fans, if they think because we're winning we should ignore this...

I'll be sickened if so.
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bongo
17 Dec 2016, 03:21 PM
Agreed.

The guys twitter posts indicate he wants time to reflect/rationalise before commenting more.

This is a line in the sand for a number of fans, if they think because we're winning we should ignore this...

I'll be sickened if so.
If anyone actually believed that this board of dickheads would stand up for the fans and what is right they are deluded. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me for the umpteenth time put me in a padded cell
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Personally, I've been prepared to give the club the benefit of the doubt re: Res 12 - the LNS, and the related stuff.
For me it doesn't hinge on the BTC final result - it is clear that there has been some underhand activity that hasn't been exposed fully.
At the moment though, what we know is quite esoteric, and seems to be of interest only to "obsessed" Celtic fans.
This is clearly not the case - but none of it really has made much traction in the MSM.
This for me is a major issue, as it means it hasn't been fully exposed.
And it must be exposed.
2017 is going to be a huge year, for many reasons I think - and possibly not all positive for our club, if they don't have the will to expose the truth.
The MSM doesn't seem to have the stomach for it - but they'll find it incredibly difficult to ignore if Celtic actually take the bull by the horns.
It could actually be akin to the refs strike - only far larger as the reach of the above issues dwarf a few dodgy refereeing decisions.
Maybe that's why Celtic are playing this very cagily - it needs to be done right - but the negativity from ETims suggests something completely different.
If Celtic take up the mantle, they'll win a new generation of fans - or rather cement the love for the club for the currents generations and beyond.
If they don't it may well initiate apathy beyond their comprehension - even with Brendan at the helm.
Fans want to support the club - they love the club - but loyalty isn't always blind.
The board should be able to remember the Sack the Board days - or are they so complacent that those days don't register at all?
That old board was complacent - and it's starting to seem as if our current board are as well.
Does DD have an opinion re: Res 12 etc?
We've heard zero about how he views all of this - at least as far as I know anyway...
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17 Dec 2016, 10:58 PM
Personally, I've been prepared to give the club the benefit of the doubt re: Res 12 - the LNS, and the related stuff.
For me it doesn't hinge on the BTC final result - it is clear that there has been some underhand activity that hasn't been exposed fully.
At the moment though, what we know is quite esoteric, and seems to be of interest only to "obsessed" Celtic fans.
This is clearly not the case - but none of it really has made much traction in the MSM.
This for me is a major issue, as it means it hasn't been fully exposed.
And it must be exposed.
2017 is going to be a huge year, for many reasons I think - and possibly not all positive for our club, if they don't have the will to expose the truth.
The MSM doesn't seem to have the stomach for it - but they'll find it incredibly difficult to ignore if Celtic actually take the bull by the horns.
It could actually be akin to the refs strike - only far larger as the reach of the above issues dwarf a few dodgy refereeing decisions.
Maybe that's why Celtic are playing this very cagily - it needs to be done right - but the negativity from ETims suggests something completely different.
If Celtic take up the mantle, they'll win a new generation of fans - or rather cement the love for the club for the currents generations and beyond.
If they don't it may well initiate apathy beyond their comprehension - even with Brendan at the helm.
Fans want to support the club - they love the club - but loyalty isn't always blind.
The board should be able to remember the Sack the Board days - or are they so complacent that those days don't register at all?
That old board was complacent - and it's starting to seem as if our current board are as well.
Does DD have an opinion re: Res 12 etc?
We've heard zero about how he views all of this - at least as far as I know anyway...
the board want nothing more than for this to go away.

they don't want to deal with it because they are cowards at best.

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Smells of complicity going by the tone of etims.

St.Roch's may have to build a bigger stand soon!
Edited by Snudge67, 17 Dec 2016, 11:16 PM.
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bongo
17 Dec 2016, 02:44 PM
BombJack
17 Dec 2016, 02:34 PM
So what's the latest on Res 12?
Etims

Could be unrelated :ponder:
Updated:

http://etims.net/?p=10568

Not sure what is point is. :ponder:
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http://etims.net/?p=10568
Those of you who read the diary on Saturday may have noticed that I was not my usual , jolly , happy go lucky sort of self, with a smile on my lips and a song in my heart as I strode purposefully from the Merchant city towards Celtic Park.

There was something niggling away at the back of my mind. The diary doesn;t usually appear when I go to the game as it usually takes a couple of hours or so, and when your train leaves Crewe at 6am, there’s not much room for manoeuvre. By the way, six goes at spelling that, and all of them got the squiggly red line of the spellchecker.

But on this occassion I diverted from the normal pre match ritual of getting into the ground and taking a seat, and tottered off to a bar-The Tolbooth-to put together a few words to mark exactly how I felt at that moment, meaning that I’d remember it the next time i came to discuss the attitude and actions of our current custodians over the questions that need to be asked over certain decision taken and rules either bent or broken a few years ago.

Otherwise, the happy go lucky fellow i am might well have just shrigged his shoulders and said to himself that its kind of what we expected anyway.

Image result for get to the point

But it, to me at least, its even worse than what we could have expected.

How can I best put this for maximum effect ?

Well, there’s not really any need to jazz it up.

Last Thursday, representatives of the club finally met with representatives of the shareholders behind the Resolution 12 movement, and its can best be described as a full and frank exchange of views.

Not because the club said that they aren’t going to pursue it. In many ways that would have been so much better.

But because the impression I got was that the club were merely paying lip service to the guys, and that deep down they still hoped it would all go away.

What caused, shall we say, an escalation of the full and frank exchange of views, was when it dawned on the ;lads that Celtics representatives hadn;t even bothered to look at the smoking gun, or even asked what sort of gun it was.

The lack of preparation on their behalf to a meeting with some shareholders who have put more than four years of work into trying to expose what at best os collusion and at worst corruption in our game is shameful.

Its indicative of an attitude that seems to show that now “rangers ” are back, and tv companies are interested in the greatest derby in the world, the support, especially those who are seen by the board not to live in the real world, are little more than an irritating sideshow who should have been placated by the fact we’ve got a half decent manager in who is being allowed to spend a few quid.

Now that the club has woken from the stupor of the last four “rangers ” free years, they’ve made it perfectly clear that they are glad to have them back, and are not in the least bit interested in dealing with the issues that arose before, during and after the initial crash of the initial Ibrox club.

Not for the first time, we have seen that what concerns the support, the trifling matter of decency, honesty , fair play and transparency is a major inconvenience to those whose primary concern is to make money.

Not solely for the dinner tables of porr children, but for those who sit at another table, one upon which food and drink will never be scarce.

Sport demands a level playing field. Otherwise its not sport.

Celtic was founded on certain principles. If those principles are to be ignored, then its not Celtic.

One of those principles corresponds with integrity, which is exactly what is missing from Scottish football at the moment.

On a wider scale, and with possible legal implications, shareholders have presented a business with evidence that the business has been cheated out of substantial revenue.

At the very least they should be interested in looking at this evidence.

Its called respect, and if the club has no respect for the shareholders, then it follows they have no respect for the support.

Thats you and me, by the way.

There is still time for them to do something about this.

They could start by showing a little respect for the work the guys have put into it.

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19 Dec 2016, 04:09 PM
http://etims.net/?p=10568
Those of you who read the diary on Saturday may have noticed that I was not my usual , jolly , happy go lucky sort of self, with a smile on my lips and a song in my heart as I strode purposefully from the Merchant city towards Celtic Park.

There was something niggling away at the back of my mind. The diary doesn;t usually appear when I go to the game as it usually takes a couple of hours or so, and when your train leaves Crewe at 6am, there’s not much room for manoeuvre. By the way, six goes at spelling that, and all of them got the squiggly red line of the spellchecker.

But on this occassion I diverted from the normal pre match ritual of getting into the ground and taking a seat, and tottered off to a bar-The Tolbooth-to put together a few words to mark exactly how I felt at that moment, meaning that I’d remember it the next time i came to discuss the attitude and actions of our current custodians over the questions that need to be asked over certain decision taken and rules either bent or broken a few years ago.

Otherwise, the happy go lucky fellow i am might well have just shrigged his shoulders and said to himself that its kind of what we expected anyway.

Image result for get to the point

But it, to me at least, its even worse than what we could have expected.

How can I best put this for maximum effect ?

Well, there’s not really any need to jazz it up.

Last Thursday, representatives of the club finally met with representatives of the shareholders behind the Resolution 12 movement, and its can best be described as a full and frank exchange of views.

Not because the club said that they aren’t going to pursue it. In many ways that would have been so much better.

But because the impression I got was that the club were merely paying lip service to the guys, and that deep down they still hoped it would all go away.

What caused, shall we say, an escalation of the full and frank exchange of views, was when it dawned on the ;lads that Celtics representatives hadn;t even bothered to look at the smoking gun, or even asked what sort of gun it was.

The lack of preparation on their behalf to a meeting with some shareholders who have put more than four years of work into trying to expose what at best os collusion and at worst corruption in our game is shameful.

Its indicative of an attitude that seems to show that now “rangers ” are back, and tv companies are interested in the greatest derby in the world, the support, especially those who are seen by the board not to live in the real world, are little more than an irritating sideshow who should have been placated by the fact we’ve got a half decent manager in who is being allowed to spend a few quid.

Now that the club has woken from the stupor of the last four “rangers ” free years, they’ve made it perfectly clear that they are glad to have them back, and are not in the least bit interested in dealing with the issues that arose before, during and after the initial crash of the initial Ibrox club.

Not for the first time, we have seen that what concerns the support, the trifling matter of decency, honesty , fair play and transparency is a major inconvenience to those whose primary concern is to make money.

Not solely for the dinner tables of porr children, but for those who sit at another table, one upon which food and drink will never be scarce.

Sport demands a level playing field. Otherwise its not sport.

Celtic was founded on certain principles. If those principles are to be ignored, then its not Celtic.

One of those principles corresponds with integrity, which is exactly what is missing from Scottish football at the moment.

On a wider scale, and with possible legal implications, shareholders have presented a business with evidence that the business has been cheated out of substantial revenue.

At the very least they should be interested in looking at this evidence.

Its called respect, and if the club has no respect for the shareholders, then it follows they have no respect for the support.

Thats you and me, by the way.

There is still time for them to do something about this.

They could start by showing a little respect for the work the guys have put into it.

Anybody actually suprised?
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Did anyone finish reading that?
Is it worth another attempt?
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Hairytoes
19 Dec 2016, 04:19 PM
Did anyone finish reading that?
Is it worth another attempt?
You're the type of fan the board love
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greenjedi
19 Dec 2016, 04:20 PM
Hairytoes
19 Dec 2016, 04:19 PM
Did anyone finish reading that?
Is it worth another attempt?
You're the type of fan the board love
I said at the very beginning of all this that Celtic wanted nothing to do with it
They have kept kicking this into the long grass and had absolutely no intention of ever doing anything about it
They believe, probably more than anyone, that we need a "strong (or any type TBH) rangers" in Scottish football
Who cares if we were cheated for decades before, we're on top now and it's a great chance to make money as the feel good factor spreads through Timdom?

Sporting integrity?
Who needs that when you can have large wads of cash?
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henrikisgod
19 Dec 2016, 04:33 PM
greenjedi
19 Dec 2016, 04:20 PM
Hairytoes
19 Dec 2016, 04:19 PM
Did anyone finish reading that?
Is it worth another attempt?
You're the type of fan the board love
I said at the very beginning of all this that Celtic wanted nothing to do with it
They have kept kicking this into the long grass and had absolutely no intention of ever doing anything about it
They believe, probably more than anyone, that we need a "strong (or any type TBH) rangers" in Scottish football
Who cares if we were cheated for decades before, we're on top now and it's a great chance to make money as the feel good factor spreads through Timdom?

Sporting integrity?
Who needs that when you can have large wads of cash?
And they will be the first to greet when the CL is carved up and we are excluded by the big boys.
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Because it looks very difficult for a shareholder to sue directors http://www.out-law.com/page-8207 I think the best tactic would be to sue the SFA. The club can't do this but shareholders/supporters can.
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19 Dec 2016, 05:32 PM
Because it looks very difficult for a shareholder to sue directors http://www.out-law.com/page-8207 I think the best tactic would be to sue the SFA. The club can't do this but shareholders/supporters can.
Sounds fair. It will have effected all our dividends and we should push for compensation
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I am raging at this. Not surprised but still raging. Yes its great having a team that is good to watch just now, but its about what was right and what was wrong. The board are seriously underestimating the feeling on this and the time is now to do something about it. If they cant or don't want to then get somebody in there who does. We cant sit back anymore and moan, the time for us to act in unity is now.
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19 Dec 2016, 05:58 PM
I am raging at this. Not surprised but still raging. Yes its great having a team that is good to watch just now, but its about what was right and what was wrong. The board are seriously underestimating the feeling on this and the time is now to do something about it. If they cant or don't want to then get somebody in there who does. We cant sit back anymore and moan, the time for us to act in unity is now.
What do you suggest mate ?
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19 Dec 2016, 07:11 PM
rossthekid
19 Dec 2016, 05:58 PM
I am raging at this. Not surprised but still raging. Yes its great having a team that is good to watch just now, but its about what was right and what was wrong. The board are seriously underestimating the feeling on this and the time is now to do something about it. If they cant or don't want to then get somebody in there who does. We cant sit back anymore and moan, the time for us to act in unity is now.
What do you suggest mate ?
who knows buddy but something needs done.
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Wanyerma
19 Dec 2016, 04:06 PM
bongo
17 Dec 2016, 02:44 PM
BombJack
17 Dec 2016, 02:34 PM
So what's the latest on Res 12?
Etims

Could be unrelated :ponder:
Updated:

http://etims.net/?p=10568

Not sure what is point is. :ponder:
Are you serious? :ponder:
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