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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,579 Views)
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johnbhoy1958
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27 Sep 2016, 11:32 AM
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Knackered with a Capital F!!!!
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- lunarhog
- 27 Sep 2016, 11:07 AM
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Not legally minded but I think the position at the moments is that BDO asked the Cos for leave to appeal to the Supreme Court. This permission was granted but as far as I know,BDO have not as yet actually taken this any further.I don't know if there is any time limit for when an appeal may be launched,ie,1-2 years whatever. Sure some of the KDS legal guys could advise.
you would think they would want a swift hearing as, if successful they can pay out to creditors from the ~£20m pot. Or if unsuccessful, then they can close the case? As I see it,the only differences wrt creditors payout would be that : 1. The pot available would be reduced by the cost of the appeal,something BDO will factor in when deciding,along with the creditors committee,whether to proceed or not, and 2. The percentage received by each creditor.If there is no appeal.or that appeal is unsuccessful.then HMRC will virtually wipe out any chance of the other creditors getting anything like a reasonable return on their money.
From the football side,of course,as it stands,Oldco were guilty of cheating for over a decade.They played hundreds of games at home & abroad with illegally registered players.clubs all over Europe were denied the opportunity to progress in UEFA tournaments and lost out on the co-efficient points,not to mention the extra income progress would have brought.I suspect that the liquidation of Oldco has actually helped UEFA dodge a bullet.As they basically said in their letter to the Res12 guys,you can't punish something that does not exist.Other clubs that lost out,cannot take action against something that does not exist,either. In Scotland,we could(and should) strip titles etc retrospectively.
WRT closing the case,these guys at BDO were hand picked by HMRC to handle this liquidation.They specialise in corporate criminality.in every report made to creditors they stress that there is "sensitive material" that cannot be released due to ongoing investigations.I may be wrong but I suspect the liquidation process will take some time yet.
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Wee Ed KTF
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4 Oct 2016, 09:30 PM
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Alfred Dunhill cup time ?
Dermot speaks to the media. Usual soundbites.
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15 Oct 2016, 12:46 AM
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but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
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Synopsis of annual accounts released in The Herald prior to AGM.
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Celtic directors net salary rises as payout takes bill past £1.6 million
THE salaries of Celtic’s board of directors’ rose by 20 per cent in the last year after a statutory ill-health payment of almost £250,000 was made to its outgoing financial chief.
Figures revealed in the Scottish Premiership club’s annual report show boardroom remuneration rose by £278,366 to stand at £1.634 million for last year.
Long-serving former financial director Eric Riley was the biggest gainer in the boardroom, having seen his salary package rise by 63 per cent in a year to £371,634.
Mr Riley, who resigned the post last December 31, received a near £240,000 ill health payment on top of his £82,213-a-year salary.
When it was announced in August 2015 that Mr Riley, who had held the position for more than 21 years, was stepping down, the club explained he had been suffering from Parkinson’s and prostate cancer since 2011. He also took a bonus of £34,164, £11,774 in pension contributions and £5,983 benefits in kind.
Mr Riley continued to serve as a non-executive director until June 30 this year and the board said Mr Riley waived all rights to payment for acting as a director.
Meanwhile, his replacement as financial director Chris McKay was paid £371,634 in his first six months in post. On top of his £82,213 salary, he received £25,313 bonus, £10,125 pension contributions and £5,400 benefits in kind.
Details of the boardroom payments came as player sales helped Celtic record an annual pre-tax profit of £500,000 compared to a loss of almost £4 million the year before.
Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell remained the top earner, being paid nearly £1 million, a rise of just £296 on the previous year.
The executive’s pay is made up of a £406,751 bonus and £17,380 “benefits in kind” on top of his £575,429 salary for last year.
The club plc’s annual report states Mr Lawwell continued to be “entitled to a maximum payment” under the company’s “bonus scheme of 60 per cent of basic salary”.
In explaining its boardroom rewards policy, Celtic plc secretary Michael Nicholson said: “The main objective of the company’s remuneration policy remains to attract, retain and motivate experienced and capable individuals who will make a significant contribution to the long term success of the group but, taking account of the marketplace, without paying more than is reasonable or necessary.
“Account is taken of remuneration packages within other comparable companies and sectors, particularly other large football clubs, the group’s performance against budget in the year and against actual performance from year to year.”
Meanwhile, the total wage bill, including player pay, rose by 10.8 per cent to £36.9 million.
There were 39,309 season ticket sales in the year to June 2016, a drop of 12.6 per cent over four years, but the club in June confirmed it had gone through the 41,000 mark in a season when arch rivals Rangers returned to the top flight of Scottish football. The average home league attendance for the Parkhead club dropped by 14 per cent in the four years, from 49,019 to 42,201.
Celtic had previously accepted that a gain of £12.6 million from player transfers helped mitigate the loss of Champions League football last season.
It marks a predicted dip in financial performance in the second half of the year ended June 30.
The board said: “The biggest on-going challenge facing the board is the management of salary and transfer costs whilst achieving playing success with its consequent impact on financial results.
“The development of a greater number of internally generated players through continued investment in youth development will assist in addressing such issues. As a result prudent management of the player pool is important in addition to incremental contribution from European success.”
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14803795.Celtic_directors_net_salary_rises_as_payout_takes_bill_past___1_6_million/
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Mubo Loravcik
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15 Oct 2016, 01:30 AM
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Spoiler: click to toggle - oneillsrevolution
- 15 Oct 2016, 12:46 AM
Synopsis of annual accounts released in The Herald prior to AGM. - Quote:
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Celtic directors net salary rises as payout takes bill past £1.6 million
THE salaries of Celtic’s board of directors’ rose by 20 per cent in the last year after a statutory ill-health payment of almost £250,000 was made to its outgoing financial chief.
Figures revealed in the Scottish Premiership club’s annual report show boardroom remuneration rose by £278,366 to stand at £1.634 million for last year.
Long-serving former financial director Eric Riley was the biggest gainer in the boardroom, having seen his salary package rise by 63 per cent in a year to £371,634.
Mr Riley, who resigned the post last December 31, received a near £240,000 ill health payment on top of his £82,213-a-year salary.
When it was announced in August 2015 that Mr Riley, who had held the position for more than 21 years, was stepping down, the club explained he had been suffering from Parkinson’s and prostate cancer since 2011. He also took a bonus of £34,164, £11,774 in pension contributions and £5,983 benefits in kind.
Mr Riley continued to serve as a non-executive director until June 30 this year and the board said Mr Riley waived all rights to payment for acting as a director.
Meanwhile, his replacement as financial director Chris McKay was paid £371,634 in his first six months in post. On top of his £82,213 salary, he received £25,313 bonus, £10,125 pension contributions and £5,400 benefits in kind.
Details of the boardroom payments came as player sales helped Celtic record an annual pre-tax profit of £500,000 compared to a loss of almost £4 million the year before.
Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell remained the top earner, being paid nearly £1 million, a rise of just £296 on the previous year.
The executive’s pay is made up of a £406,751 bonus and £17,380 “benefits in kind” on top of his £575,429 salary for last year.
The club plc’s annual report states Mr Lawwell continued to be “entitled to a maximum payment” under the company’s “bonus scheme of 60 per cent of basic salary”.
In explaining its boardroom rewards policy, Celtic plc secretary Michael Nicholson said: “The main objective of the company’s remuneration policy remains to attract, retain and motivate experienced and capable individuals who will make a significant contribution to the long term success of the group but, taking account of the marketplace, without paying more than is reasonable or necessary.
“Account is taken of remuneration packages within other comparable companies and sectors, particularly other large football clubs, the group’s performance against budget in the year and against actual performance from year to year.”
Meanwhile, the total wage bill, including player pay, rose by 10.8 per cent to £36.9 million.
There were 39,309 season ticket sales in the year to June 2016, a drop of 12.6 per cent over four years, but the club in June confirmed it had gone through the 41,000 mark in a season when arch rivals Rangers returned to the top flight of Scottish football. The average home league attendance for the Parkhead club dropped by 14 per cent in the four years, from 49,019 to 42,201.
Celtic had previously accepted that a gain of £12.6 million from player transfers helped mitigate the loss of Champions League football last season.
It marks a predicted dip in financial performance in the second half of the year ended June 30.
The board said: “The biggest on-going challenge facing the board is the management of salary and transfer costs whilst achieving playing success with its consequent impact on financial results.
“The development of a greater number of internally generated players through continued investment in youth development will assist in addressing such issues. As a result prudent management of the player pool is important in addition to incremental contribution from European success.” http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14803795.Celtic_directors_net_salary_rises_as_payout_takes_bill_past___1_6_million/
without paying more than is reasonable or necessary
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Hairytoes
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15 Oct 2016, 06:26 AM
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No gif of Lawell sitting laughing?
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15 Oct 2016, 02:04 PM
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just got my documents through the post today regarding the AGM
i notice we have a new resolution 12 this year to create a Celtic Supporters Forum proposed by shareholders (not the current directors though).
However i see in the notes that the directors plan to recommend the resolution and vote in favour of it which i guess guarantees this will go ahead.
There will be 3 meetings per year one on October, one in February and one in April
It also says that "each of the recognised Celtic supporters organisations will have 2 representatives at the meeting and representatives of a cross section of the Celtic support will also be invited to attend by the club from time to time."
bit out of touch with all the supporters groups these days but who are the recognised supporters organisations
Is is CSA, affilitation, irish CSA, North American Federation
are the green brigade recognised by the club ?
I guess it is a good thing to have but at the end of the day will it actually have any clout
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15 Oct 2016, 02:45 PM
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On Etims there are hints to "bad news" next week for us?
Any idea what this is?
Indications about a big tax bill/administration.....although can't see it being that tbh.
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fatboab
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15 Oct 2016, 02:51 PM
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Just before the Dawn
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On Etims there are hints to "bad news" next week for us?
Any idea what this is?
Indications about a big tax bill/administration.....although can't see it being that tbh.
I don't think you got the gist of their story.
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15 Oct 2016, 02:53 PM
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- fatboab
- 15 Oct 2016, 02:51 PM
- Tubbytubthumper
- 15 Oct 2016, 02:45 PM
On Etims there are hints to "bad news" next week for us?
Any idea what this is?
Indications about a big tax bill/administration.....although can't see it being that tbh. I don't think you got the gist of their story. maybe i should read it again
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slaine
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15 Oct 2016, 05:29 PM
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First name on the team-sheet
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Care to explain please to us simple people.
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tonyjaa-csc
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15 Oct 2016, 07:55 PM
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What's this?
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17 Oct 2016, 09:50 AM
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Celtic agree to pay Living wage
Spoiler: click to toggle Celtic to pay living wage to all employees Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
14 mins ago / Martin Williams, Senior News Reporter / @MWilliamsHT 0 comments
CELTIC FC have agreed to pay the new living wage of £8.25 to all employees at the club following a sustained fan campaign, it has emerged.
The club reviewed pay rates affecting an estimated 100 full-time employees and hundreds more non-permanent staff whose wages fell below the new living wage threshold.
Celtic staff had been paid £7.85 per hour. However, the rate, adjusted by the Living Wage Foundation, was raised by 40p in last November.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
Details of the agreement, which came into effect in July, have been revealed in the club’s financial papers.
It comes after the Celtic board faced criticism at last year’s AGM for failing to sign up to the living wage standard.
Chairman Ian Bankier said then it was “not in the interests” of Celtic to follow in the footsteps of around 380 Scottish employers – including fellow Ladbrokes Premiership club Heart of Midlothian – in signing up to the scheme.
Many shareholders called for the club to change their stance with shareholders and fan group, the Celtic Trust, supporting a resolution that the board take “all necessary steps” to make Celtic an accredited living wage employer and to provide to shareholders a progress report on this within three months.
The fan group had also been concerned about the withdrawal of a discretionary bonus system for staff receiving the living wage rate.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
The supporters’ group said at the time that it was “penny pinching of the worst kind” and it appeared the club had been “trying desperately” to find ways to do the “absolute minimum”.
It has now been confirmed that the minimum rate hourly rate of £8.25 a hour was implemented from July 1, “reflecting the prevailing voluntary living wage rate”, although there is no indication of a change in position over becoming an accredited employer.
Details of the living wage increase came as it emerged board of directors’ overall salary costs rose by 20 per cent in the last year due largely to a near-£240,000 ill health payment to long-serving former financial chief Eric Riley.
The Parkhead club had previously said it would not sign up to the living wage scheme as it would mean “handing over decision making on salaries to another agency”.
The Celtic Trust has said that, as “progress has been made – small though it is”, that it will not be bringing a living wage resolution to the forthcoming annual general meeting, the date of which is yet to be decided.
But it said it had not abandoned its campaign and would continue to bring pressure to bear on the club to become fully accredited living wage employers.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/14805792.Celtic_to_pay_living_wage_to_all_employees/
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Smiley
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17 Oct 2016, 09:59 AM
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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- tenerifetim
- 17 Oct 2016, 09:50 AM
Celtic agree to pay Living wage Spoiler: click to toggle Celtic to pay living wage to all employees Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
14 mins ago / Martin Williams, Senior News Reporter / @MWilliamsHT 0 comments
CELTIC FC have agreed to pay the new living wage of £8.25 to all employees at the club following a sustained fan campaign, it has emerged.
The club reviewed pay rates affecting an estimated 100 full-time employees and hundreds more non-permanent staff whose wages fell below the new living wage threshold.
Celtic staff had been paid £7.85 per hour. However, the rate, adjusted by the Living Wage Foundation, was raised by 40p in last November.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
Details of the agreement, which came into effect in July, have been revealed in the club’s financial papers.
It comes after the Celtic board faced criticism at last year’s AGM for failing to sign up to the living wage standard.
Chairman Ian Bankier said then it was “not in the interests” of Celtic to follow in the footsteps of around 380 Scottish employers – including fellow Ladbrokes Premiership club Heart of Midlothian – in signing up to the scheme.
Many shareholders called for the club to change their stance with shareholders and fan group, the Celtic Trust, supporting a resolution that the board take “all necessary steps” to make Celtic an accredited living wage employer and to provide to shareholders a progress report on this within three months.
The fan group had also been concerned about the withdrawal of a discretionary bonus system for staff receiving the living wage rate.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
The supporters’ group said at the time that it was “penny pinching of the worst kind” and it appeared the club had been “trying desperately” to find ways to do the “absolute minimum”.
It has now been confirmed that the minimum rate hourly rate of £8.25 a hour was implemented from July 1, “reflecting the prevailing voluntary living wage rate”, although there is no indication of a change in position over becoming an accredited employer.
Details of the living wage increase came as it emerged board of directors’ overall salary costs rose by 20 per cent in the last year due largely to a near-£240,000 ill health payment to long-serving former financial chief Eric Riley.
The Parkhead club had previously said it would not sign up to the living wage scheme as it would mean “handing over decision making on salaries to another agency”.
The Celtic Trust has said that, as “progress has been made – small though it is”, that it will not be bringing a living wage resolution to the forthcoming annual general meeting, the date of which is yet to be decided.
But it said it had not abandoned its campaign and would continue to bring pressure to bear on the club to become fully accredited living wage employers. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/14805792.Celtic_to_pay_living_wage_to_all_employees/
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17 Oct 2016, 10:14 AM
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it might be churlish to say about time, but well done, anyway
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17 Oct 2016, 10:15 AM
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Celtic agree to pay Living wage Spoiler: click to toggle Celtic to pay living wage to all employees Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
14 mins ago / Martin Williams, Senior News Reporter / @MWilliamsHT 0 comments
CELTIC FC have agreed to pay the new living wage of £8.25 to all employees at the club following a sustained fan campaign, it has emerged.
The club reviewed pay rates affecting an estimated 100 full-time employees and hundreds more non-permanent staff whose wages fell below the new living wage threshold.
Celtic staff had been paid £7.85 per hour. However, the rate, adjusted by the Living Wage Foundation, was raised by 40p in last November.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
Details of the agreement, which came into effect in July, have been revealed in the club’s financial papers.
It comes after the Celtic board faced criticism at last year’s AGM for failing to sign up to the living wage standard.
Chairman Ian Bankier said then it was “not in the interests” of Celtic to follow in the footsteps of around 380 Scottish employers – including fellow Ladbrokes Premiership club Heart of Midlothian – in signing up to the scheme.
Many shareholders called for the club to change their stance with shareholders and fan group, the Celtic Trust, supporting a resolution that the board take “all necessary steps” to make Celtic an accredited living wage employer and to provide to shareholders a progress report on this within three months.
The fan group had also been concerned about the withdrawal of a discretionary bonus system for staff receiving the living wage rate.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
The supporters’ group said at the time that it was “penny pinching of the worst kind” and it appeared the club had been “trying desperately” to find ways to do the “absolute minimum”.
It has now been confirmed that the minimum rate hourly rate of £8.25 a hour was implemented from July 1, “reflecting the prevailing voluntary living wage rate”, although there is no indication of a change in position over becoming an accredited employer.
Details of the living wage increase came as it emerged board of directors’ overall salary costs rose by 20 per cent in the last year due largely to a near-£240,000 ill health payment to long-serving former financial chief Eric Riley.
The Parkhead club had previously said it would not sign up to the living wage scheme as it would mean “handing over decision making on salaries to another agency”.
The Celtic Trust has said that, as “progress has been made – small though it is”, that it will not be bringing a living wage resolution to the forthcoming annual general meeting, the date of which is yet to be decided.
But it said it had not abandoned its campaign and would continue to bring pressure to bear on the club to become fully accredited living wage employers. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/14805792.Celtic_to_pay_living_wage_to_all_employees/ Better late than never.
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17 Oct 2016, 10:17 AM
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- 17 Oct 2016, 10:15 AM
- tenerifetim
- 17 Oct 2016, 09:50 AM
Celtic agree to pay Living wage Spoiler: click to toggle Celtic to pay living wage to all employees Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
Celtic to pay living wage to all employees
14 mins ago / Martin Williams, Senior News Reporter / @MWilliamsHT 0 comments
CELTIC FC have agreed to pay the new living wage of £8.25 to all employees at the club following a sustained fan campaign, it has emerged.
The club reviewed pay rates affecting an estimated 100 full-time employees and hundreds more non-permanent staff whose wages fell below the new living wage threshold.
Celtic staff had been paid £7.85 per hour. However, the rate, adjusted by the Living Wage Foundation, was raised by 40p in last November.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
Details of the agreement, which came into effect in July, have been revealed in the club’s financial papers.
It comes after the Celtic board faced criticism at last year’s AGM for failing to sign up to the living wage standard.
Chairman Ian Bankier said then it was “not in the interests” of Celtic to follow in the footsteps of around 380 Scottish employers – including fellow Ladbrokes Premiership club Heart of Midlothian – in signing up to the scheme.
Many shareholders called for the club to change their stance with shareholders and fan group, the Celtic Trust, supporting a resolution that the board take “all necessary steps” to make Celtic an accredited living wage employer and to provide to shareholders a progress report on this within three months.
The fan group had also been concerned about the withdrawal of a discretionary bonus system for staff receiving the living wage rate.
Read more: Nicola Sturgeon to publish plan for Scotland to stay in single market after Brexit
The supporters’ group said at the time that it was “penny pinching of the worst kind” and it appeared the club had been “trying desperately” to find ways to do the “absolute minimum”.
It has now been confirmed that the minimum rate hourly rate of £8.25 a hour was implemented from July 1, “reflecting the prevailing voluntary living wage rate”, although there is no indication of a change in position over becoming an accredited employer.
Details of the living wage increase came as it emerged board of directors’ overall salary costs rose by 20 per cent in the last year due largely to a near-£240,000 ill health payment to long-serving former financial chief Eric Riley.
The Parkhead club had previously said it would not sign up to the living wage scheme as it would mean “handing over decision making on salaries to another agency”.
The Celtic Trust has said that, as “progress has been made – small though it is”, that it will not be bringing a living wage resolution to the forthcoming annual general meeting, the date of which is yet to be decided.
But it said it had not abandoned its campaign and would continue to bring pressure to bear on the club to become fully accredited living wage employers. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/14805792.Celtic_to_pay_living_wage_to_all_employees/
Better late than never.
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17 Oct 2016, 10:19 AM
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 Just need the board to pull their finger out over Res12 and we're in a happy place.
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17 Oct 2016, 10:23 AM
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Glad we got there in the end.
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17 Oct 2016, 10:50 AM
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Is this not just the same as before regarding the Living Wage? ie. we pay the recommended rate but aren't an accredited Living wage employer?
All that story seems to suggest is we're raising our lowest rate to match the increase in the living wage
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egan46
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17 Oct 2016, 11:00 AM
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- 17 Oct 2016, 10:50 AM
Is this not just the same as before regarding the Living Wage? ie. we pay the recommended rate but aren't an accredited Living wage employer?
All that story seems to suggest is we're raising our lowest rate to match the increase in the living wage You're right, still not an accredited Living Wage employer, nor will we ever be. We have just increased the minimum to match the living wage.
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