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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,604 Views)
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13 Jul 2016, 09:54 AM
Last night is the reason Deila should have been punted after Malmo. Or after the Sevco semi.

Cowardly shampooebagging out of that decision gave us yesterday's result.
So yesterday was Deila's fault?
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auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 09:57 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 09:54 AM
Last night is the reason Deila should have been punted after Malmo. Or after the Sevco semi.

Cowardly shampooebagging out of that decision gave us yesterday's result.
So yesterday was Deila's fault?
Point to where I said that.

Yesterday was the board's fault for not punting Deila sooner, then bringing in a manager to identify the shampoobags in this team before the CL qualifiers.
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13 Jul 2016, 10:07 AM
auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 09:57 AM
Ghost of Fitzpas
13 Jul 2016, 09:54 AM
Last night is the reason Deila should have been punted after Malmo. Or after the Sevco semi.

Cowardly shampooebagging out of that decision gave us yesterday's result.
So yesterday was Deila's fault?
Point to where I said that.

Yesterday was the board's fault for not punting Deila sooner, then bringing in a manager to identify the shampoobags in this team before the CL qualifiers.
Rodgers has had time to see that.
Most fans could tell him who would let him down.
He had John Kennedy there presumably to do this.
The board have to take blame, but Rodgers is the manager & he played proven cowards & has beens.
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13 Jul 2016, 10:40 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 10:07 AM
auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 09:57 AM

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Point to where I said that.

Yesterday was the board's fault for not punting Deila sooner, then bringing in a manager to identify the shampoobags in this team before the CL qualifiers.
Rodgers has had time to see that.
Most fans could tell him who would let him down.
He had John Kennedy there presumably to do this.
The board have to take blame, but Rodgers is the manager & he played proven cowards & has beens.
time is our enemy in this situation.

Rodgers, from what we understand , has tried to sign a central defender. Shaun Duffy and Kolo Toure are just two names that have been mentioned. He knows we have an issue, but time is not on his side when it comes to these games. Add in the Euros, and it becomes even more difficult to talk to/ secure players for games this early. Injury has also added to our central defensive issues, and while Rodgers tried Ajer in this position in the pre-season friendlies, he maybe felt that experience was needed for this game. Turns out he was wrong, but it's hard to blame him for not throwing an 18 year old into his Celtic debut in such an environment.
It's what happens from here that determines how seriously the Board are prepared to back Rodgers. Hopefully it isn't already too late.
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13 Jul 2016, 09:54 AM
Last night is the reason Deila should have been punted after Malmo. Or after the Sevco semi.

Cowardly shampooebagging out of that decision gave us yesterday's result.
Said as much yesterday. Loads of folks pointed out this potential problem last season. How the feck the board couldn't see it beyond me. Heads wont roll though.
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13 Jul 2016, 10:07 AM
auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 09:57 AM
Ghost of Fitzpas
13 Jul 2016, 09:54 AM
Last night is the reason Deila should have been punted after Malmo. Or after the Sevco semi.

Cowardly shampooebagging out of that decision gave us yesterday's result.
So yesterday was Deila's fault?
Point to where I said that.

Yesterday was the board's fault for not punting Deila sooner, then bringing in a manager to identify the shampoobags in this team before the CL qualifiers.
I misunderstood

I'm sorry
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Ghost of Fitzpas
13 Jul 2016, 10:07 AM
auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 09:57 AM
Ghost of Fitzpas
13 Jul 2016, 09:54 AM
Last night is the reason Deila should have been punted after Malmo. Or after the Sevco semi.

Cowardly shampooebagging out of that decision gave us yesterday's result.
So yesterday was Deila's fault?
Point to where I said that.

Yesterday was the board's fault for not punting Deila sooner, then bringing in a manager to identify the shampoobags in this team before the CL qualifiers.
Yesterday was Rodger's fault for playing said shampooebags despite it being obvious to anyone who had seen even a handful of Celtic's games from last season who the shampooebags are. He's been here long enough to know, and there were options available who would have put more effort in. McGregor and Roberts being the 2 most obvious ones.
Edited by stephen_mch, 13 Jul 2016, 11:39 AM.
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fatboab
13 Jul 2016, 11:05 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 10:40 AM
Ghost of Fitzpas
13 Jul 2016, 10:07 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepbefore the CL qualifiers.
Rodgers has had time to see that.
Most fans could tell him who would let him down.
He had John Kennedy there presumably to do this.
The board have to take blame, but Rodgers is the manager & he played proven cowards & has beens.
time is our enemy in this situation.

Rodgers, from what we understand , has tried to sign a central defender. Shaun Duffy and Kolo Toure are just two names that have been mentioned. He knows we have an issue, but time is not on his side when it comes to these games. Add in the Euros, and it becomes even more difficult to talk to/ secure players for games this early. Injury has also added to our central defensive issues, and while Rodgers tried Ajer in this position in the pre-season friendlies, he maybe felt that experience was needed for this game. Turns out he was wrong, but it's hard to blame him for not throwing an 18 year old into his Celtic debut in such an environment.
It's what happens from here that determines how seriously the Board are prepared to back Rodgers. Hopefully it isn't already too late.
We didn't just have problems at the back yesterday.
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13 Jul 2016, 09:54 AM
Last night is the reason Deila should have been punted after Malmo. Or after the Sevco semi.

Cowardly shampooebagging out of that decision gave us yesterday's result.
There is probably a good number of worse coaches than Ronny Deila that would have avoided defeat last night at the very least.

The point might have some validity if the Board had left the current manager with a bunch of semi professional players to compete against the Lincoln Red Imps last night, because then we'd have been asking the new manager to operate with them on the same level. We were very far from that.

Instead, what we had was a bunch of international players who, regardless of whether they are actually any good when exposed to a higher level, were playing the bulk of a side that Scotland had put 12 past in 180 minutes of football.

Last night is on Rodgers, whatever people might think of the Board. He executed every tactical and player selection feature likely to yield such a result, given the absolute certainty of the conditions and the tactics of the opponents.

There's a level of arrogance about an unwillingness to play percentages in such a situation.
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Problem is with the experienced players.
I worry he'll stick with them.
Again this isn't the fault of the board.
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13 Jul 2016, 01:03 PM
Problem is with the experienced players.
I worry he'll stick with them.
Again this isn't the fault of the board.
Well, it is really. They signed projects for the most part.

Rodgers arrival will change that tactic or it won't. If it doesn't he'll go the same way as the managers before him.
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I said at the time that Deila should have been shown the door as soon as the decision was taken that he was going. Instead he was allowed to remain until the end of the season. Rodgers could have been brought in, taking us to the title and get a chance to settle in. But no, we had to do the so called decent thing and keep Delia. That was wrong, in a massive way.

Rodgers should have been in post giving him the chance to check over existing players and of course, new ones.

But no, we let sentiment rule. Sadly, there's no room for that if you want success and you need it quickly.

But who can reckon on such an inept performance and tactics last night. Dreadful, all round.
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fatboab
13 Jul 2016, 11:05 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 10:40 AM
Ghost of Fitzpas
13 Jul 2016, 10:07 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepbefore the CL qualifiers.
Rodgers has had time to see that.
Most fans could tell him who would let him down.
He had John Kennedy there presumably to do this.
The board have to take blame, but Rodgers is the manager & he played proven cowards & has beens.
time is our enemy in this situation.

Rodgers, from what we understand , has tried to sign a central defender. Shaun Duffy and Kolo Toure are just two names that have been mentioned. He knows we have an issue, but time is not on his side when it comes to these games. Add in the Euros, and it becomes even more difficult to talk to/ secure players for games this early. Injury has also added to our central defensive issues, and while Rodgers tried Ajer in this position in the pre-season friendlies, he maybe felt that experience was needed for this game. Turns out he was wrong, but it's hard to blame him for not throwing an 18 year old into his Celtic debut in such an environment.
It's what happens from here that determines how seriously the Board are prepared to back Rodgers. Hopefully it isn't already too late.
Boab..I really worry about this board and backing him up. There total negligence last 3/4 years has seen us stumble from one Euro car crash to another. Totally their fault. "Project Ronny" was Pete's idea of a cheap gig that set us back years and now we are seeing the same guff albeit with a solid and good manager at the helm. The board after the making that mistake(s) cannot go on doing the same - no investment and low level quality.

The solace is that BR would not have took the gig without some sound/serious financial backing (surely). Next 2/3 weeks will be critical. I've said on a couple of posts today that it is worrying we have only signed one player at 19 years old in 6 weeks now considering how poor a pool and first team we have. The omens ain't good but the board have played a blinder by getting approx 50k season tickets surely to goodness they would hold back heavy investment???

There would be a riot??
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13 Jul 2016, 01:03 PM
Problem is with the experienced players.
I worry he'll stick with them.
Again this isn't the fault of the board.
Who else's fault can it be? They are ultimately responsible for the appointment of the CEO, manager etc and the purchase of the playing squad. They dithered for half a season over Deila and have lumbered Rodgers with the same diddies that have failed in the CL in the last 2 seasons.
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Let's hope that the great Brendhino wasn't so desperate to get the gig, that he peppered his interview with the idea that he could get more out of the current players, etc.

'Cause if there are two men more willing to hang you out to dry, than Dastardly & Splob, i've yet to meet 'em :suspect:

If he's (Rodgers) predicated transfer-fund policy on getting us into the group stage, he's either very foolish, or too darn nice, neither of which augers well.
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littlegmbhoy
13 Jul 2016, 02:01 PM
fatboab
13 Jul 2016, 11:05 AM
Hairytoes
13 Jul 2016, 10:40 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepbefore
time is our enemy in this situation.

Rodgers, from what we understand , has tried to sign a central defender. Shaun Duffy and Kolo Toure are just two names that have been mentioned. He knows we have an issue, but time is not on his side when it comes to these games. Add in the Euros, and it becomes even more difficult to talk to/ secure players for games this early. Injury has also added to our central defensive issues, and while Rodgers tried Ajer in this position in the pre-season friendlies, he maybe felt that experience was needed for this game. Turns out he was wrong, but it's hard to blame him for not throwing an 18 year old into his Celtic debut in such an environment.
It's what happens from here that determines how seriously the Board are prepared to back Rodgers. Hopefully it isn't already too late.
Boab..I really worry about this board and backing him up. There total negligence last 3/4 years has seen us stumble from one Euro car crash to another. Totally their fault. "Project Ronny" was Pete's idea of a cheap gig that set us back years and now we are seeing the same guff albeit with a solid and good manager at the helm. The board after the making that mistake(s) cannot go on doing the same - no investment and low level quality.

The solace is that BR would not have took the gig without some sound/serious financial backing (surely). Next 2/3 weeks will be critical. I've said on a couple of posts today that it is worrying we have only signed one player at 19 years old in 6 weeks now considering how poor a pool and first team we have. The omens ain't good but the board have played a blinder by getting approx 50k season tickets surely to goodness they would hold back heavy investment???

There would be a riot??
Word! :thumbsup:
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13 Jul 2016, 01:51 PM
I said at the time that Deila should have been shown the door as soon as the decision was taken that he was going. Instead he was allowed to remain until the end of the season. Rodgers could have been brought in, taking us to the title and get a chance to settle in. But no, we had to do the so called decent thing and keep Delia. That was wrong, in a massive way.

Rodgers should have been in post giving him the chance to check over existing players and of course, new ones.

But no, we let sentiment rule. Sadly, there's no room for that if you want success and you need it quickly.

But who can reckon on such an inept performance and tactics last night. Dreadful, all round.
Can tell you now that he wouldn't have come in mid-season. He stated on multiple occasions post LFC that he wanted the season off to recuperate. Sacking Deila mid season would have meant JK and JC taking over until the end of that year, nothing else.

Rodgers chose to wait until the summer.
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Boab..I really worry about this board and backing him up. There total negligence last 3/4 years has seen us stumble from one Euro car crash to another. Totally their fault. "Project Ronny" was Pete's idea of a cheap gig that set us back years and now we are seeing the same guff albeit with a solid and good manager at the helm. The board after the making that mistake(s) cannot go on doing the same - no investment and low level quality.


100% This is the real fear, Rodgers being promised all kinds of backing to get him to sign up then the normal chancers reverting to type once the deal was sealed. We all know the areas that need strengthening but show no signs as yet to bring in the quality we require. Our recruitment yet again so far this summer has be very poor & has Lawwell's fingerprints all of it.

We need 4 or 5 in before the season starts in earnest, the fact that we have just played our first CL qualifier with only one new arrival in the team is alarming.
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I honestly believe this mob don't care if we make the champions league.
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I honestly believe this mob don't care if we make the champions league.
Half of them are probably scared at the thought of playing there.
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