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| The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,606 Views) | |
| Torquemada | 10 Jul 2016, 03:41 PM Post #8321 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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They used that form of words precisely to STOP people deliberately muddying the waters between "club" and "company" in the way Chuckie Verde and Neil Doncaster did. It's a legal catch-all. Edit: Unless CQN and James Forrest have deliberately misrepresented the Uefa letter, Uefa regards the old huns as dead and Sevco as a different club. Edited by Torquemada, 10 Jul 2016, 03:44 PM.
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| auldbhoy1975 | 10 Jul 2016, 03:47 PM Post #8322 |
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Occasional Substitute
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fair enough, makes sense chuckie verde at the end of the day though, their next title will still be billed as 55 by the SPFL even if UEFA apply the correct co-efficient for them when they reach european competition again. That's all that matters to them |
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| DhenBhoy | 10 Jul 2016, 03:47 PM Post #8323 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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It's no wonder solicitors make so much money. |
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| Wailer | 10 Jul 2016, 03:51 PM Post #8324 |
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Rebel music.
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We'll see.....in about 15 years or so. |
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| DhenBhoy | 10 Jul 2016, 03:51 PM Post #8325 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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There is a possibility that the authorities may have been forced to rethink by then. Depends how much fight fans, of football in Scotland, have in them? Edited by DhenBhoy, 10 Jul 2016, 03:52 PM.
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| Sheshoon | 10 Jul 2016, 04:05 PM Post #8326 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Maybe the Requisitioners are stalling release of the actual letter from UEFA.......until Tuesday!
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| auldbhoy1975 | 10 Jul 2016, 04:10 PM Post #8327 |
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I suppose we could see what the outcome, if any, of the Res 12 fight may be If SFA/SPFL are shafted by Uefa then it may be difficult for them to continue the same club myth although, as I've said, I don't think anything will happen and they will continue to be treated as the original rangers unfortunately |
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| Auldyin | 10 Jul 2016, 04:26 PM Post #8328 |
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Considering retirement
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THIS. Do enough care enough to say enough? |
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| Auldyin | 10 Jul 2016, 04:33 PM Post #8329 |
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Considering retirement
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Read back to explanation of Article 12. No dubiety. UEFA cannot afford it because if they did Article 12 would lose its purpose which is to stop clubs or clubs with a contractual relationship with a company dumping debt and carrying on as before. If UEFA allowed the holding company approach ( Southampton tried it and told to gtf by FA then Article 12 would be easily circumvented. This was true long before RFC went bust but UEFA never said before that the principle behind Aricle 12 applied to the club at Ibrox. They only ever pointed at their rules. |
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| Auldyin | 10 Jul 2016, 04:54 PM Post #8330 |
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Considering retirement
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Thank you Remy. (Words I thought I'd never say
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| stevie21 | 10 Jul 2016, 05:10 PM Post #8331 |
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Poster of the Tuesday afternoon!
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Whoever is questioning it, maybe he/she realises a slash might mean one or the other ![]() In all seriousness I dont think there's any ambiguity. |
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| Willie Wonka | 10 Jul 2016, 05:31 PM Post #8332 |
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Slavery fled, oh glorious dead
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Eh, no. Clear as a bell. |
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| Wee Ed KTF | 10 Jul 2016, 06:32 PM Post #8333 |
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Considering retirement
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A “new club/company” Patently obvious meaning.
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| auldbhoy1975 | 10 Jul 2016, 06:51 PM Post #8334 |
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I missed the Celticblog article Having now read it, it explains the club/company useage well. |
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| CHR15 | 10 Jul 2016, 10:06 PM Post #8335 |
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I'll take 2 of those feckin sheep giraffes please
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Sevco fan/zombie. Rangers fan/hun. |
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| CHR15 | 10 Jul 2016, 11:47 PM Post #8336 |
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I'll take 2 of those feckin sheep giraffes please
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The slash my father wore |
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| OverAndOver | 11 Jul 2016, 08:54 AM Post #8337 |
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Considering retirement
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thanks for the reply and once again for what you guys have done
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| Mackin | 11 Jul 2016, 10:50 AM Post #8338 |
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The Ginty McGinty genius
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Something has been missed in the 5 pages following this post, but we know they broke the rules in 11/12. They went into administration in February 2012 with a tax debt and would have been ineligible in 12/13 if they hadnt died. Surely the issue is around the end of the season 10/11 when they were granted the license for 11/12? This hasnt been answered by UEFA at all, unless its in the mythical letter which hasnt been published. |
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| Auldyin | 11 Jul 2016, 11:54 AM Post #8339 |
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Considering retirement
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Well spotted. One of the points clarification is needed on. At what point was it realised there was an overdue payable and if it was Sherriff Officers calling then how was that allowed to happen when just 6 weeks before a submission was made and passed by the SFA that there were no overdure payable. One way how it came about requires false statements and non disclosure and we know who was in the driving seat in June 2011. Read James Forres recent blog for more. Edited by Auldyin, 11 Jul 2016, 11:55 AM.
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| Auldyin | 11 Jul 2016, 11:55 AM Post #8340 |
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Considering retirement
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Who guards the guards? A thoughtful article from E Tims. http://etims.net/?p=9359 In a way Res12 is pioneering making SFA acountable, building the capacity to do so as it rolls along. But it's a slow shoogly train and when it has reached its station something more efficient that will remove the distrust in football governance is need. |
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