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| The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,608 Views) | |
| tinytim81 | 9 Jul 2016, 11:53 AM Post #8281 |
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Cheers man, and congratulations on your hard work showing results
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| Hoops For Me All The Way | 9 Jul 2016, 12:01 PM Post #8282 |
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You want equality? Consider if that person feels Equal.
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Thank you to everyone involved in R12. You are part of our history and we owe you. As does Scottish football. |
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| Connolly's Rhebels | 9 Jul 2016, 12:11 PM Post #8283 |
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First-team captain
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And irrespective of how one interprets the a and b definitions, they are merely conditions to the ultimate point that is irrefutable, they MUST be a Football Club to get a licence. Well done Auldyin et al.
Edited by Connolly's Rhebels, 9 Jul 2016, 12:12 PM.
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| Walter Sobchak | 9 Jul 2016, 12:57 PM Post #8284 |
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No one will take any notice of this unless the original copy of the letter is released. |
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| 44bhoy | 9 Jul 2016, 02:03 PM Post #8285 |
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First-team starter
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Indeed. What and when. Simple questions, straightforward answers. Well done to the RES12 team. Marvellous marvellous job! |
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| jbj712 | 9 Jul 2016, 02:10 PM Post #8286 |
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Getting on a bit
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Total respect and admiration for the courage, tenacity and perserverance shown by all those involved in this struggle! The whole of Scottish football owes these guys a huge debt of gratitude for their efforts to clean up the game. |
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| DhenBhoy | 9 Jul 2016, 05:07 PM Post #8287 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Utmost respect for getting this far against all odds. When huge organisations close ranks and are assisted by a compliant media it's hard to get at the truth. |
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| Auldyin | 9 Jul 2016, 08:06 PM Post #8288 |
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Considering retirement
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The final point in the Update on CQN is that once UEFA have been written to Res12 will have met it's responsibilities to shareholders in taking the matter to UEFA CFCB. To complete it Celtic have a decision to make based on the points made and that decision will be a more informed one if they wait until the full shareholders concerns have been articulated. So it would be best if the Res12 baton was carried over the line before being handed over. Taking it too early could be a fumble. Edited by Auldyin, 9 Jul 2016, 08:07 PM.
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| DhenBhoy | 9 Jul 2016, 08:08 PM Post #8289 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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JJ's latest Thought it was relevant to this thread as well and have posted twice: mods feel free to delete. Edited by DhenBhoy, 9 Jul 2016, 08:11 PM.
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| Adam Smith 11 | 9 Jul 2016, 08:16 PM Post #8290 |
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Contract up for renewal, now on a diet and trying harder.
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Thanks for relaying the info Auldyin
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| Broadly Equivalent Bhoy | 9 Jul 2016, 08:17 PM Post #8291 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Cheers Auldyin, grateful for the update and all your hard work. Keep on keeping on.
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| Auldyin | 9 Jul 2016, 08:56 PM Post #8292 |
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Considering retirement
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I suppose it depends on who in the SFA knew and what they knew. What we do know is Campbell Ogilvie instigated the DOS ebts that gave rise to the wee tax bill. He was Vice President then President from early June 2011. We don't know if he knew that HMRC had written to HMRC in Feb 2011 putting the case for payment or that RFC had agreed the liability in mid Feb 2011 and the final amount of £2.8m at start of third week in March. We also don't know if he was aware of the actual tax demand of 20th May that replicated much of the information in the 23 Feb letter. That would depend on it being given to the SFA by RFC so he might not. Then there is Andrew Dickson. He sat on 3 of the 4 Licensing Committee meetings in 2011. He is very experienced in football administration matters, the man Regan went to in Dec 2011 when questions were being asked about the overdue payable and whom Regan e mailed a day later to get a draft cleared that never saw the light of day as the recipient's collectively shat it. Dickson also knew all about the other BTC ebts and side letters kept private from SFA and HMRC having been responsible for the players files and contracts that were in them since 2004. What we don't know is if he was aware of the HMRC letter of 23 Feb 2011 or the demand of 20th May , 30 days after which it became overdue if not appealed. We know it existed but not who saw it. Then there was the statement in the half yearly accounts dated 1st April 2011 which the SFA would have seen. In it the RFC Chairman Alistair Johnson described the liability as "potential and under discussion". It was neither. Collection (not liability) had been put on hold with HMRCs agreement apparently when amount agreed in last week in March until the Takeover happened, presumably because there was an agreement subsequently made public in early June for it to be paid by the purchaser from Motherwell. That 6 week delay meant the bill would have become overdue end of April if issued when liability amount agreed which might have seen it arrive just before 31st March if HMRC had not agrred to dally. The presentation of the liability as potential and under discussion in the half yearly accounts might have been enough for SFA to take on face value, but SFA had a mandate from all licence applicants to confirm things with HMRC. Did they and if not why not? Who or what gave them satisfaction all was in order in March 2011? It might well have been but it is answers to questions like this that are needed to satisfy supporters that the SFA acted diligently. |
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| esme stuart | 10 Jul 2016, 01:39 AM Post #8293 |
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The VERY LEAST the club should do is reflect this in the merchandise relating to the Sevco game on 10th Sept, specifically the matchday programme and the honours the new club/company possess. |
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| valley of the clueless | 10 Jul 2016, 08:04 AM Post #8294 |
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I'm new. Be gentle.
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I, unfortunately, have no hope Celtic will do the right thing here, everything I have observed, from not wanting this Resolution in the AGM, to their present silence, has led me to that conclusion. If the fantastic work by Celtic fans did not happen, we would not be having this discussion now. Its the most damming failure by the Celtic board since Fergus times, I can grudgingly accept mismanagement on the football front (Willo Flood transfer window) etc, but this is about the integrity of the game, the entire fabric the sport is based upon, simple fair play, and the Club are silent. The board should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. |
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| Fearghas | 10 Jul 2016, 08:44 AM Post #8295 |
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they have no shame. most of them are tories and one of them even abstained from voting against savage welfare cuts to the most vulnerable in society. but i agree with your sentiments. |
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| pedrok | 10 Jul 2016, 08:44 AM Post #8296 |
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Considering retirement
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They should. But they won't. |
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| auldbhoy1975 | 10 Jul 2016, 10:13 AM Post #8297 |
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Interesting to note the part on JJ's article re the possibility of an expulsion for Scottish teams from euro competition |
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| Walter Sobchak | 10 Jul 2016, 10:20 AM Post #8298 |
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Interesting to note because if it's in a a JJ article that it's likely unmitigated made up bullshampoo ? |
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| auldbhoy1975 | 10 Jul 2016, 11:30 AM Post #8299 |
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on the contrary I've said before, if the SFA are punished it's likely it's member clubs will bear the brunt i.e mainly us |
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| remy mcswain | 10 Jul 2016, 11:31 AM Post #8300 |
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Big in Canada
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Pish |
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