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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,610 Views)
Dubz
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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11788/7952714/rangers-owners-change-name

Shareholders have voted in favour of Rangers owners Sevco Scotland Limited changing its name to The Rangers Football Club Limited, with the club to be granted a Scottish Football Association licence on Friday.

An extraordinary general meeting of 'oldco' shareholders took place at Ibrox on Tuesday, where procedures were approved to enable the name change.

Charles Green's Sevco consortium completed the purchase of the business and assets of Rangers in June after the club was consigned to liquidation following failure to secure a Company Voluntary Arrangement in order to exit administration.
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Dubz
8 Jul 2016, 08:56 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11788/7952714/rangers-owners-change-name

Shareholders have voted in favour of Rangers owners Sevco Scotland Limited changing its name to The Rangers Football Club Limited, with the club to be granted a Scottish Football Association licence on Friday.

An extraordinary general meeting of 'oldco' shareholders took place at Ibrox on Tuesday, where procedures were approved to enable the name change.

Charles Green's Sevco consortium completed the purchase of the business and assets of Rangers in June after the club was consigned to liquidation following failure to secure a Company Voluntary Arrangement in order to exit administration.
I assumed that you couldn't trade under the name or a similar name to the one that was liquidated ? :ponder: Especially when they're not even using the 'The'
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Wailer
8 Jul 2016, 09:01 PM
Dubz
8 Jul 2016, 08:56 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11788/7952714/rangers-owners-change-name

Shareholders have voted in favour of Rangers owners Sevco Scotland Limited changing its name to The Rangers Football Club Limited, with the club to be granted a Scottish Football Association licence on Friday.

An extraordinary general meeting of 'oldco' shareholders took place at Ibrox on Tuesday, where procedures were approved to enable the name change.

Charles Green's Sevco consortium completed the purchase of the business and assets of Rangers in June after the club was consigned to liquidation following failure to secure a Company Voluntary Arrangement in order to exit administration.
I assumed that you couldn't trade under the name or a similar name to the one that was liquidated ? :ponder: Especially when they're not even using the 'The'
The shareholders of rangers didnt object to the name being used by the new club, i suspect the majority of creditors didnt object either.
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Dubz
8 Jul 2016, 09:03 PM
Wailer
8 Jul 2016, 09:01 PM
Dubz
8 Jul 2016, 08:56 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11788/7952714/rangers-owners-change-name

Shareholders have voted in favour of Rangers owners Sevco Scotland Limited changing its name to The Rangers Football Club Limited, with the club to be granted a Scottish Football Association licence on Friday.

An extraordinary general meeting of 'oldco' shareholders took place at Ibrox on Tuesday, where procedures were approved to enable the name change.

Charles Green's Sevco consortium completed the purchase of the business and assets of Rangers in June after the club was consigned to liquidation following failure to secure a Company Voluntary Arrangement in order to exit administration.
I assumed that you couldn't trade under the name or a similar name to the one that was liquidated ? :ponder: Especially when they're not even using the 'The'
The shareholders of rangers didnt object to the name being used by the new club, i suspect the majority of creditors didnt object either.
:thumbsup: Ok, still seems dodgy. :lol:
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Wailer
8 Jul 2016, 09:04 PM
Dubz
8 Jul 2016, 09:03 PM
Wailer
8 Jul 2016, 09:01 PM
The shareholders of rangers didnt object to the name being used by the new club, i suspect the majority of creditors didnt object either.
:thumbsup: Ok, still seems dodgy. :lol:
Dodgy and UK company law go hand in hand.
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Dubz
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Wailer
8 Jul 2016, 09:04 PM
Dubz
8 Jul 2016, 09:03 PM
Wailer
8 Jul 2016, 09:01 PM
The shareholders of rangers didnt object to the name being used by the new club, i suspect the majority of creditors didnt object either.
:thumbsup: Ok, still seems dodgy. :lol:
I agree Wailer. The embarrassment would stop anyone else from doing it but not these feckers. :thumbsup:
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Sunny Jim Young
8 Jul 2016, 08:43 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 08:08 PM
So did they actually answer the issue as to why old Huns were allowed to play in Europe and what is happening with the SFA? I thought that was the whole point and not getting one up on the current Huns who will refuse to believe it anyway
My take on it is that UEFA are acknowledging that they broke the rules in 2011/12. But they had been eliminated from Europe by the time the irregularity was discovered. Sanctions would have been taken against them in 2012/13 but by that time they didn't exist.
Correct. I don't know what form of words Uefa could use that would make it any clearer for our resident naysayers, other than "the huns are deid". The issue is not yet wholly resolved, which is why it might be imprudent to publish correspondence at this stage. The huns will only believe it when they get into Europe and are awarded Scotland's coefficient, being a new club. And even then the SMSM will muddy the waters. WGAF? We've won! :)
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Sunny Jim Young
8 Jul 2016, 08:43 PM
Quiet Assasin
8 Jul 2016, 08:08 PM
So did they actually answer the issue as to why old Huns were allowed to play in Europe and what is happening with the SFA? I thought that was the whole point and not getting one up on the current Huns who will refuse to believe it anyway
My take on it is that UEFA are acknowledging that they broke the rules in 2011/12. But they had been eliminated from Europe by the time the irregularity was discovered. Sanctions would have been taken against them in 2012/13 but by that time they didn't exist.
Exactly my take on it also, you don't need to read between the lines to see that's what UEFA are saying.
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8 Jul 2016, 07:20 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 06:46 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 06:44 PM

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The direct quote is "new club/company" is it not?

I have no doubt that the "quote" is real. A quote without the relevant document being published will cut little ice.

I have no doubts they are a new club. I don't need the evidence to shown. However you will not convince the rabid huns the quote is genuine without the proof.
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't, no proof is possible."

#We welcome the Stuart Chase.
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No way should The Res12 guys publish the letter.

As some have previously said this is part of an ongoing correspondence between UEFA and the Solicitors of the Res12 guys. You'd expect some sort of confidentiality during that period of correspondence. Maybe the confidentiality will extend past the communication. We're not privy to that information so can't reasonably expect the letter to be published at this time.

Aside all the legal stuff surely it's a better strategy to see who from the Level 5 puppets have the cojones to rubbish the veracity of the UEFA letter. Level5 know they're not dealing with "Mad Phil" on this one. Paul67 is well respected in the media and they know he's not a bullshampooter. If he says he's seen a letter from UEFA that says X then there's a very very good chance he has seen a UEFA letter that says X.

This'll be a tough one for the SMSM. Traynor will be putting the squeeze on all his lackie's to rubbish the info but those same lackie's wont want to destroy whatever's left of their credibility by playing chicken with someone who has the evidence to hand. I don't think @stvgrant will be volunteering for that particular mission.

I expect that they'll stonewall this one.
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Torquemada
8 Jul 2016, 09:24 PM
Sunny Jim Young
8 Jul 2016, 08:43 PM
Quiet Assasin
8 Jul 2016, 08:08 PM
So did they actually answer the issue as to why old Huns were allowed to play in Europe and what is happening with the SFA? I thought that was the whole point and not getting one up on the current Huns who will refuse to believe it anyway
My take on it is that UEFA are acknowledging that they broke the rules in 2011/12. But they had been eliminated from Europe by the time the irregularity was discovered. Sanctions would have been taken against them in 2012/13 but by that time they didn't exist.
Correct. I don't know what form of words Uefa could use that would make it any clearer for our resident naysayers, other than "the huns are deid". The issue is not yet wholly resolved, which is why it might be imprudent to publish correspondence at this stage. The huns will only believe it when they get into Europe and are awarded Scotland's coefficient, being a new club. And even then the SMSM will muddy the waters. WGAF? We've won! :)
If they enter Europe next season they would be getting the country co-efficient no matter what happens so the media don't need to muddy the waters at all.

UEFA saying that they are new club is winning a (significant) battle but winning the war will be bringing down the SFA for their cheating to facilitate the old hun.
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I think this is quite an important exchange.
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 7:20 PM
Fred Colon on 8th July 2016 6:35 pm


Is it just me that’s missing the point ?


Fine , UEFA have confirmed that RFC is deid … something we already knew .


However , why did the huns get a license to play in Europe in season 2011 / 12 ?

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That is one of the points we would like clarification on amongst others raised by the UEFA response.
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Quiet Assasin
8 Jul 2016, 09:37 PM
Torquemada
8 Jul 2016, 09:24 PM
Sunny Jim Young
8 Jul 2016, 08:43 PM

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Correct. I don't know what form of words Uefa could use that would make it any clearer for our resident naysayers, other than "the huns are deid". The issue is not yet wholly resolved, which is why it might be imprudent to publish correspondence at this stage. The huns will only believe it when they get into Europe and are awarded Scotland's coefficient, being a new club. And even then the SMSM will muddy the waters. WGAF? We've won! :)
If they enter Europe next season they would be getting the country co-efficient no matter what happens so the media don't need to muddy the waters at all.

UEFA saying that they are new club is winning a (significant) battle but winning the war will be bringing down the SFA for their cheating to facilitate the old hun.
Agreed.
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If the press poodles and huns want to see what the letter contains let them approach UEFA and the truth (for them) from UEFA. However neither the press nor the huns want the truth because the truth, the whole truth and the horrible truth is something they can not tolerate.
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tomtheleedstim
8 Jul 2016, 09:37 PM
I think this is quite an important exchange.
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 7:20 PM
Fred Colon on 8th July 2016 6:35 pm


Is it just me that’s missing the point ?


Fine , UEFA have confirmed that RFC is deid … something we already knew .


However , why did the huns get a license to play in Europe in season 2011 / 12 ?

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That is one of the points we would like clarification on amongst others raised by the UEFA response.
Because the unpaid tax bill, and Rangers failure to declare it, didn't become known to UEFA until after they were knocked out of the tournament. This according to the James Forrest blog.
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Anyone else having probs accessing James Forrest's site? I had it on my phone a few hours ago, now can't get it there on on my laptop. DOS attack?
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kellybhoy
8 Jul 2016, 10:21 PM
tomtheleedstim
8 Jul 2016, 09:37 PM
I think this is quite an important exchange.
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 7:20 PM
Fred Colon on 8th July 2016 6:35 pm


Is it just me that’s missing the point ?


Fine , UEFA have confirmed that RFC is deid … something we already knew .


However , why did the huns get a license to play in Europe in season 2011 / 12 ?

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That is one of the points we would like clarification on amongst others raised by the UEFA response.
Because the unpaid tax bill, and Rangers failure to declare it, didn't become known to UEFA until after they were knocked out of the tournament. This according to the James Forrest blog.
I think the key issue is when did the SFA know and when did they inform UEFA (if in fact they did).
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tomtheleedstim
8 Jul 2016, 09:37 PM
I think this is quite an important exchange.
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 7:20 PM
Fred Colon on 8th July 2016 6:35 pm


Is it just me that’s missing the point ?


Fine , UEFA have confirmed that RFC is deid … something we already knew .


However , why did the huns get a license to play in Europe in season 2011 / 12 ?

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That is one of the points we would like clarification on amongst others raised by the UEFA response.
Where was this Q&A being hosted? I couldn't see any links to it via the CQN article
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paulfg42
8 Jul 2016, 10:44 PM
kellybhoy
8 Jul 2016, 10:21 PM
tomtheleedstim
8 Jul 2016, 09:37 PM
I think this is quite an important exchange.
AULDHEID on 8TH JULY 2016 7:20 PM
Fred Colon on 8th July 2016 6:35 pm


Is it just me that’s missing the point ?


Fine , UEFA have confirmed that RFC is deid … something we already knew .


However , why did the huns get a license to play in Europe in season 2011 / 12 ?

==========================

That is one of the points we would like clarification on amongst others raised by the UEFA response.
Because the unpaid tax bill, and Rangers failure to declare it, didn't become known to UEFA until after they were knocked out of the tournament. This according to the James Forrest blog.
I think the key issue is when did the SFA know and when did they inform UEFA (if in fact they did).
Absolutely.
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aldo
8 Jul 2016, 10:41 PM
Anyone else having probs accessing James Forrest's site? I had it on my phone a few hours ago, now can't get it there on on my laptop. DOS attack?
I also cannot access

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