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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,611 Views)
tenerifetim
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georgiesleftpeg
8 Jul 2016, 06:56 PM
how much money have lawyers made out of all of this :ponder:
Not nearly enough ! :arrr:
"But I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep." :ph43r:

RobertFrost.CSC :o
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DhenBhoy
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Wanyerma
8 Jul 2016, 07:06 PM
pedrok
8 Jul 2016, 06:54 PM
Wanyerma
8 Jul 2016, 06:46 PM

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I think that needs clarified. If UEFA are using the words 'club/company' it certainly doesn't make it crystal clear.
My feeling too
EUFA is clear, in Article 12? I think, that the club is the legal entity. Therefore in using club/company they have made it crystal clear to anyone. "New club/company" means new club and/or company as they are "synonymous" (remember that word?).

Again though, I would like to see the "official letter" as without it accusations of bias/inaccurate quotes will be levelled.
Edited by DhenBhoy, 8 Jul 2016, 07:28 PM.
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Despite the positive results from the endeavour of the #res12 guys, I will say this.
Celtic's behaviour has been utterly shameful.
Lawwell is a effing disgrace.
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DhenBhoy
8 Jul 2016, 07:25 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 07:06 PM
pedrok
8 Jul 2016, 06:54 PM

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My feeling too
EUFA is clear, in Article 12? I think, that the club is the legal entity. Therefore in using club/company they have made it crystal clear to anyone. "New club/company" means new club and/or company as they are "synonymous" (remember that word?).

Again though, I would like to see the "official letter" as without it accusations of bias/inaccurate quotes will be levelled.
I think the letter would be helpful.
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johncfc
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pedrok
8 Jul 2016, 07:17 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 07:13 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 07:06 PM

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Huns were due to play in Europe though and the fact they then didn't says it all.
As I say, I will always see them as the new club they are.

In my view it is unfortunate the word 'company' appears as it allows those who pretend and play with words a sense of comfort.

A clear use of the word club only, would have been crystal clear.
I disagree.

I think it is important that UEFA are clear that Sevco are a new club and a new company. It blows the argument of new company but same club out of the water.

Well done a genuine thanks to the bhoys on Resolution 12.
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8 Jul 2016, 07:22 PM
James Forrest's article on this is excellent :worthy:

Essential reading :thumbsup:

Cannot for the life find this on his site, latest article I can find is dated 5th July. can someone post it on here thanks.
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smiddybar
8 Jul 2016, 07:56 PM
Wee Ed KTF
8 Jul 2016, 07:22 PM
James Forrest's article on this is excellent :worthy:

Essential reading :thumbsup:

Cannot for the life find this on his site, latest article I can find is dated 5th July. can someone post it on here thanks.
James Forrest article
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smiddybar
8 Jul 2016, 07:56 PM
Wee Ed KTF
8 Jul 2016, 07:22 PM
James Forrest's article on this is excellent :worthy:

Essential reading :thumbsup:

Cannot for the life find this on his site, latest article I can find is dated 5th July. can someone post it on here thanks.
http://thecelticblog.com/2016/07/blogs/resolution-12-the-verdict-and-the-victory-that-restores-truth-to-scottish-football/
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Willie Wonka
8 Jul 2016, 07:23 PM
New club - check
New company - check
Applied for admittance & not a peep of demotion- check.

Now that's a good day


exactly. That sentence will be rammed down the gullets of any hun lickspittles who come out with any relegation pish
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So did they actually answer the issue as to why old Huns were allowed to play in Europe and what is happening with the SFA? I thought that was the whole point and not getting one up on the current Huns who will refuse to believe it anyway
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pedrok
8 Jul 2016, 07:42 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 07:25 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 07:06 PM

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EUFA is clear, in Article 12? I think, that the club is the legal entity. Therefore in using club/company they have made it crystal clear to anyone. "New club/company" means new club and/or company as they are "synonymous" (remember that word?).

Again though, I would like to see the "official letter" as without it accusations of bias/inaccurate quotes will be levelled.
I think the letter would be helpful.
They need to produce the letter.

Their say so isn't going to hold any weight.
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8 Jul 2016, 08:00 PM
smiddybar
8 Jul 2016, 07:56 PM
Wee Ed KTF
8 Jul 2016, 07:22 PM
James Forrest's article on this is excellent :worthy:

Essential reading :thumbsup:

Cannot for the life find this on his site, latest article I can find is dated 5th July. can someone post it on here thanks.
James Forrest article
Much obliged to you, that is certainly a great read, thanks again really appreciated.
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Kingslim
8 Jul 2016, 08:16 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 07:42 PM
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8 Jul 2016, 07:25 PM

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I think the letter would be helpful.
They need to produce the letter.

Their say so isn't going to hold any weight.
They will in time when the correspondence with UEFA over this is finished. This was only an update and not the end game.

It's still ongoing.
Edited by He Cometh, 8 Jul 2016, 08:26 PM.
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8 Jul 2016, 07:42 PM

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They need to produce the letter.

Their say so isn't going to hold any weight.
They will in time when thee correspondence with UEFA over this is finished.

It's still ongoing.
Hope so. Appreciate the updates.
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See, I have always seen it as a new club. I don't need anyone to confirm that.

The picture has always been blurred by the use of nonsense such as 'company', 'holding company', 'the company that owned the club'. So I don't want to see the word company anywhere.

So why any need for 'club/company'?
UEFA's reply was not based on what you've ben blurred by in Scotland mate.

Take the reply in isolation to the bullshampoo from them and the Scottish media.

A new club/company was formed. . .a new club and a new company.
exactly. what is so difficult to understand? :brickwall:

it's a new club and company.
not same club different company or any of that crap.
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8 Jul 2016, 08:08 PM
So did they actually answer the issue as to why old Huns were allowed to play in Europe and what is happening with the SFA? I thought that was the whole point and not getting one up on the current Huns who will refuse to believe it anyway
My take on it is that UEFA are acknowledging that they broke the rules in 2011/12. But they had been eliminated from Europe by the time the irregularity was discovered. Sanctions would have been taken against them in 2012/13 but by that time they didn't exist.
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8 Jul 2016, 08:40 PM
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pedrok
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UEFA's reply was not based on what you've ben blurred by in Scotland mate.

Take the reply in isolation to the bullshampoo from them and the Scottish media.

A new club/company was formed. . .a new club and a new company.
exactly. what is so difficult to understand? :brickwall:

it's a new club and company.
not same club different company or any of that crap.
Issue then is how are they trading under the RFC monicker ?
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Sunny Jim Young
8 Jul 2016, 08:43 PM
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So did they actually answer the issue as to why old Huns were allowed to play in Europe and what is happening with the SFA? I thought that was the whole point and not getting one up on the current Huns who will refuse to believe it anyway
My take on it is that UEFA are acknowledging that they broke the rules in 2011/12. But they had been eliminated from Europe by the time the irregularity was discovered. Sanctions would have been taken against them in 2012/13 but by that time they didn't exist.
That's exactly the situation.
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exactly. what is so difficult to understand? :brickwall:

it's a new club and company.
not same club different company or any of that crap.
Issue then is how are they trading under the RFC monicker ?
Didn't shareholders vote to let sevco use name, hence rfc2012 in liquidation?
Edited by Dubz, 8 Jul 2016, 08:52 PM.
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exactly. what is so difficult to understand? :brickwall:

it's a new club and company.
not same club different company or any of that crap.
Issue then is how are they trading under the RFC monicker ?
maybe same badge but they have a different name. :thumbsup:

the badge thing is a matter for business law in the uk not uefa.
tbh i don't know how they're getting away with that one.
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