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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,616 Views)
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21 Jun 2016, 03:37 PM
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How do the media know the contents of the correspondence between the Res12 lawyers and UEFA? Hand delivered to a compliant media from Ibrox.
They also had to put a submission in and would have been copied into any emails being sent.
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21 Jun 2016, 03:41 PM
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How do the media know the contents of the correspondence between the Res12 lawyers and UEFA?
Hand delivered to a compliant media from Ibrox. They also had to put a submission in and would have been copied into any emails being sent. Doesn't mention an e-mail but an actual letter. Correspondence of this nature would be by formal letter not e-mail.
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21 Jun 2016, 03:41 PM
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- 21 Jun 2016, 03:32 PM
How do the media know the contents of the correspondence between the Res12 lawyers and UEFA? They don't appear to have sight of the reply to Requisitioners hence @stvGrant' s demand that they publish yet he refuses to publish his emails & questions to UEFA ! I'm sure the SMSM have a sniff of the context and don't like it , hence the squirrels being released ! There's a bit more mileage in this yet though some of the cryptic clues are frustrating !
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21 Jun 2016, 03:50 PM
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- 21 Jun 2016, 03:32 PM
How do the media know the contents of the correspondence between the Res12 lawyers and UEFA?
Hand delivered to a compliant media from Ibrox. They also had to put a submission in and would have been copied into any emails being sent.
Doesn't mention an e-mail but an actual letter. Correspondence of this nature would be by formal letter not e-mail. Ok mate i'll rephrase it.
They would also have been sent a letter.
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21 Jun 2016, 03:53 PM
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Doesn't mention an e-mail but an actual letter. Correspondence of this nature would be by formal letter not e-mail.
Ok mate i'll rephrase it. They would also have been sent a letter. No. Wouldn't have happened. Tenerife Tim's theory probably more accurate.
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21 Jun 2016, 03:55 PM
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You want equality? Consider if that person feels Equal.
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- Wee Ed KTF
- 21 Jun 2016, 12:11 PM
Copied from CQN, for those who cannot access for whatever reason
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BY CQN MAGAZINE ON 21ST JUNE 2016 FOOTBALL MATTERS, LATEST NEWS RESOLUTION 12 is all about what happened during season 2011/2012 with regard to the administration and monitoring of UEFA licenses in Scotland.
It is the football and governance topic some want to ignore, deflect and cover up at all costs. It makes them uncomfortable. It asks awkward questions, some of which have now been answered by UEFA in a formal letter addressed to solicitors acting for a group of Celtic shareholders.
Had the letter been addressed to a football association or indeed a member club then there would have been no need to take the counter measures we saw yesterday.
Today Resolution 12 is in the news. Apparently it is over. Apparently it was about Rangers. It’s not and it wasn’t.
Resolution 12 is about the SFA administration of licensing (as we should all know by now). The same friends in Glasgow media circles have been used to try to spike what is coming. Jaws would have been on the floor when Uefa’s letter was read. The PR panic button would have been sounded.
Damage limitation was the order of the day. They had no means of controlling or attempting to control those with the letter and with a right to reply to UEFA.
Yesterday the Resolution 12 guys could have responded. They nearly did but it wasn’t the right time. They were helped by the reaction from a Celtic support, and indeed supporters of many other clubs, who are now seeing this stuff for what it is.
They have posed legal questions to legal people and have formally received answers which have led to further ongoing communication.
Imagine for a moment that the following has been established, so far, with more to come:
If UEFA have refused to back Stewart Regan’s formal stance to Celtic.
If UEFA contradicted Regan’s publicly stated definition of the duties of the SFA.
If UEFA have failed to endorse the SFA’s stance on being unable to report.
If UEFA refused to say that Rangers were compliant at 30th June and 30th September and instead identify compliance requirements but stopped short of saying they complied.
If UEFA have stated clearly that there is an OLD CLUB and a NEW CLUB and that the two are separate legal and footballing entities!
If UEFA have stated clearly that during season 2011 Rangers did not comply with the necessary criteria to hold a UEFA licence.
If UEFA have stated clearly that during season 2011 Rangers were non-compliant with UEFA licensing requirements, but refuse to identify, when the non-compliance was identified, when the SFA reported they were non-compliant, and merely sum up by saying they were not granted a licence for season 2012/2013?
Imagine all that! In ONE letter from UEFA! The first, we suspect, of many.
What a story that would be!
Just remember, Persistence Beats Res12tance!
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21 Jun 2016, 03:59 PM
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- 21 Jun 2016, 03:41 PM
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Ok mate i'll rephrase it. They would also have been sent a letter.
No. Wouldn't have happened. Tenerife Tim's theory probably more accurate. Ok bud. .i'll bow to your knowledge on this
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21 Jun 2016, 04:02 PM
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Doesn't mention an e-mail but an actual letter. Correspondence of this nature would be by formal letter not e-mail.
Ok mate i'll rephrase it. They would also have been sent a letter. The complaint was about them or the old club with a similar name. the complaint was about the SFA
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21 Jun 2016, 04:08 PM
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Ok mate i'll rephrase it. They would also have been sent a letter.
No. Wouldn't have happened. Tenerife Tim's theory probably more accurate. Just to be clear, He Cometh seems to be saying that the Huns would've been kept updated on this issue given their quasi-involvement.
Are you saying that the Huns wouldn't have received any communications on it?
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21 Jun 2016, 04:09 PM
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Ok mate i'll rephrase it. They would also have been sent a letter.
The complaint was about them or the old club with a similar name. the complaint was about the SFA They were asked for (and sent) a submission.
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21 Jun 2016, 04:13 PM
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The complaint was about them or the old club with a similar name. the complaint was about the SFA
They were asked for (and sent) a submission. Why would you ask a company about another companies tax records. So who asked, the SFA or UEFA?
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21 Jun 2016, 04:21 PM
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They were asked for (and sent) a submission.
Why would you ask a company about another companies tax records. So who asked, the SFA or UEFA? UEFA. .I don't know what exactly they were asked for but they were part of the process and therefor would have been informed on the outcome.
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21 Jun 2016, 04:23 PM
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They were asked for (and sent) a submission.
Why would you ask a company about another companies tax records. So who asked, the SFA or UEFA? To quote CQN, this is about licensing. That's the direct issue.
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21 Jun 2016, 04:24 PM
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No. Wouldn't have happened. Tenerife Tim's theory probably more accurate.
Just to be clear, He Cometh seems to be saying that the Huns would've been kept updated on this issue given their quasi-involvement. Are you saying that the Huns wouldn't have received any communications on it? No. Saying they wouldn't have received the correspondence between Res12 Lawyers and UEFA. They (UEFA) may have written to Newco outlining they (UEFA) were corresponding with other parties regarding SFA licensing for european competition 2011/12.
But don't buy the idea a copy of UEFA's reply to Res12 lawyers would have been sent to Ibrox and then a Level5 PR conclave, featuring the Grant guy from STV, gathered to deflect the contents of the letter.
I do however believe the press are desperate for this to go away and nothing would surprise me. Just think its better for the credibility of the Res12 people if conspiracies are dismissed and known facts are the currency. And to be fair, the Res12 people have been doing this.
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21 Jun 2016, 04:28 PM
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Just to be clear, He Cometh seems to be saying that the Huns would've been kept updated on this issue given their quasi-involvement. Are you saying that the Huns wouldn't have received any communications on it?
No. Saying they wouldn't have received the correspondence between Res12 Lawyers and UEFA. They (UEFA) may have written to Newco outlining they (UEFA) were corresponding with other parties regarding SFA licensing for european competition 2011/12. But don't buy the idea a copy of UEFA's reply to Res12 lawyers would have been sent to Ibrox and then a Level5 PR conclave, featuring the Grant guy from STV, gathered to deflect the contents of the letter. I do however believe the press are desperate for this to go away and nothing would surprise me. Just think its better for the credibility of the Res12 people if conspiracies are dismissed and known facts are the currency. And to be fair, the Res12 people have been doing this. This is not the KDS (or Celtic) way.
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21 Jun 2016, 04:35 PM
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Just to be clear, He Cometh seems to be saying that the Huns would've been kept updated on this issue given their quasi-involvement. Are you saying that the Huns wouldn't have received any communications on it?
No. Saying they wouldn't have received the correspondence between Res12 Lawyers and UEFA. They (UEFA) may have written to Newco outlining they (UEFA) were corresponding with other parties regarding SFA licensing for european competition 2011/12. But don't buy the idea a copy of UEFA's reply to Res12 lawyers would have been sent to Ibrox and then a Level5 PR conclave, featuring the Grant guy from STV, gathered to deflect the contents of the letter. I do however believe the press are desperate for this to go away and nothing would surprise me. Just think its better for the credibility of the Res12 people if conspiracies are dismissed and known facts are the currency. And to be fair, the Res12 people have been doing this. They maybe didn't receive the exact letter but they would have received their own letter containing UEFA's conclusions on the matter.
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21 Jun 2016, 04:38 PM
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No. Saying they wouldn't have received the correspondence between Res12 Lawyers and UEFA. They (UEFA) may have written to Newco outlining they (UEFA) were corresponding with other parties regarding SFA licensing for european competition 2011/12. But don't buy the idea a copy of UEFA's reply to Res12 lawyers would have been sent to Ibrox and then a Level5 PR conclave, featuring the Grant guy from STV, gathered to deflect the contents of the letter. I do however believe the press are desperate for this to go away and nothing would surprise me. Just think its better for the credibility of the Res12 people if conspiracies are dismissed and known facts are the currency. And to be fair, the Res12 people have been doing this.
They maybe didn't receive the exact letter but they would have received their own letter containing UEFA's conclusions on the matter. And they (UEFA) would have told the Res12 lawyers they were doing this?
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21 Jun 2016, 04:39 PM
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No. Wouldn't have happened. Tenerife Tim's theory probably more accurate.
Just to be clear, He Cometh seems to be saying that the Huns would've been kept updated on this issue given their quasi-involvement. Are you saying that the Huns wouldn't have received any communications on it? That's exactly what i'm saying mate.
It's fairly obvious that everyone who had been asked to submit evidence etc and who were involved in the whole situation would then be notified of UEFA's conclusions on the matter.
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21 Jun 2016, 04:41 PM
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They maybe didn't receive the exact letter but they would have received their own letter containing UEFA's conclusions on the matter.
And they (UEFA) would have told the Res12 lawyers they were doing this? Do you think a club who were asked for a submission on the issue (and submitted it) would not then be informed by UEFA on their conclusions?
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21 Jun 2016, 04:43 PM
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- He Cometh
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And they (UEFA) would have told the Res12 lawyers they were doing this?
Do you think a club who were asked for a submission on the issue (and submitted it) would not then be informed by UEFA on their conclusions? It sorta throws doubt on the implicit claims of a new club in the CQN comments earlier if the so-called new club were asked for submissions does it not? Unless it was under the 'SFA membership' umbrella
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