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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,618 Views)
Wailer
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Wailer
20 Jun 2016, 03:47 PM
Tiny Tim
20 Jun 2016, 03:43 PM
Wailer
20 Jun 2016, 03:36 PM
"....the club entered the fourth tier of Scottish football..." Least they're getting that right maybe the SMSM should take note and stick the relegation pish where the sun don't shine.
Entered the fourth tier after relegation, will be the claim.
I've saw someone on twitter already claiming that what Uefa said to STV confirms it's the same club.
Surely it was the SFA under investigation and not deidco anyway?
The folk who say it was relegation are going to have to show the rules that say a club can be relegated 3 divisions. :)

Edit: Didn't mean to quote me. :doh:
Edited by Wailer, 20 Jun 2016, 03:53 PM.
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RedbeardRhum
20 Jun 2016, 03:49 PM
Barcabhoy on twitter talking about some letter from UEFA which says they aren't investigating because "deid club"?
No chance of STV reporting that bit.
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Willie Wonka
20 Jun 2016, 03:55 PM
RedbeardRhum
20 Jun 2016, 03:49 PM
Barcabhoy on twitter talking about some letter from UEFA which says they aren't investigating because "deid club"?
No chance of STV reporting that bit.
Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant 41m41 minutes ago
@MIchaelKB34 UEFA deemed the case as an "interruption of membership".
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Willie Wonka
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Wailer
20 Jun 2016, 03:56 PM
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20 Jun 2016, 03:55 PM
RedbeardRhum
20 Jun 2016, 03:49 PM
Barcabhoy on twitter talking about some letter from UEFA which says they aren't investigating because "deid club"?
No chance of STV reporting that bit.
Grant Russell þ@STVGrant 41m41 minutes ago
@MIchaelKB34 UEFA deemed the case as an "interruption of membership".
More verbal gymnastics. :nono:
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There are different approaches to these things.

Mine is to think that -
UEFA and FIFA are both proven to be corrupt organisations
libel laws mean that I would say that the SFA is not a wholly competent organisation and lacks transparency and consistency


so... the crucial question is -
Why endlessly complain that these and other bodies do things that are incompetent or unjust or otherwise bad?

They do. That is what they do. That is what they are. They are not there for the purpose you imagine but to ensure the status quo and the flow of cash into the game and to the people who make money out of the game... to ensure the status of those who have status etc etc

They are not gods, they are men...
small men
The gnomes of Nyon
and
The dwarves of Hampden.

The idea that any of these men was going to hold Rangers to account by judging them against a standard and finding them wanting is just silly.
As Celtic fans no one is looking after us and making sure nothing bad happens... there is no court of appeal, no god in judgement... there are just little men and huns quietly getting away with what hey can and preserving the status quo. It's childinsh to thnk anyone is going to give them into trouble because they are bad.
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UEFA lazy bassas couldn't be bothered to investigate. Probably had Ogilvie in their ear saying his beloved huns had been punished enough
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Grant Russell þ@STVGrant 41m41 minutes ago
@MIchaelKB34 UEFA deemed the case as an "interruption of membership".
More verbal gymnastics. :nono:
Getting interesting.

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant 10m10 minutes ago
@TheClumpany @FrPaulStone All of these things asked over several, extensive emails. This is the response given.

Fr. Paul Stone ‏@FrPaulStone 9m9 minutes ago
@STVGrant @TheClumpany You can see why we're sceptical about this though. Res12 is nothing to do with Rangers (old or new).

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant 8m8 minutes ago
@FrPaulStone @TheClumpany It has nothing to do with Rangers?! It's Rangers who had to send the declaration to UEFA on June 30.

The Clumpany ‏@TheClumpany 6m6 minutes ago
@STVGrant @FrPaulStone Ah. In that case then, is UEFA's point that Rangers don't exist any more so no investigation can take place?
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Grant taking a staunch stand now !

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant 21m21 minutes ago

@FrPaulStone @TheClumpany I've got absolutely no obligation to publish questions. Deal with it.
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STV article

http://stv.tv/sport/football/1358000-uefa-won-t-investigate-resolution-12-rangers-euro-licence-claims/
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tenerifetim
20 Jun 2016, 04:59 PM
Grant taking a staunch stand now !

Grant Russell ‏@STVGrant 21m21 minutes ago

@FrPaulStone @TheClumpany I've got absolutely no obligation to publish questions. Deal with it.
Given the content of UEFA's statement, which does not address the salient point about Resolution 12 , and Grant's indignant response questioning what he originally asked, I can only come to the conclusion that he has misunderstood the point of the entire issue and is somewhat embarrassed to have been sidestepped by a UEFA spin doctor.
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Forza
20 Jun 2016, 06:16 PM
tenerifetim
20 Jun 2016, 04:59 PM
Grant taking a staunch stand now !

Grant Russell þ@STVGrant 21m21 minutes ago

@FrPaulStone @TheClumpany I've got absolutely no obligation to publish questions. Deal with it.
Given the content of UEFA's statement, which does not address the salient point about Resolution 12 , and Grant's indignant response questioning what he originally asked, I can only come to the conclusion that he has misunderstood the point of the entire issue and is somewhat embarrassed to have been sidestepped by a UEFA spin doctor.
UEFA spin doctor ? He could be sidestepped by a one legged bullfighter. :nono:
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RedbeardRhum
20 Jun 2016, 03:49 PM
Barcabhoy on twitter talking about some letter from UEFA which says they aren't investigating because "deid club"?
I would be delighted if that were to be the case.
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If this letter exists, someone needs to publish it. That it's being spun the way it is by a churnalist should be no surprise to anyone.
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Wanyerma
20 Jun 2016, 07:19 PM
If this letter exists, someone needs to publish it. That it's being spun the way it is by a churnalist should be no surprise to anyone.
Record :suspect: & STVGrant running with same story makes it smell of Level5 :boik: pish and spin ! :ph43r:
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20 Jun 2016, 07:31 PM
Wanyerma
20 Jun 2016, 07:19 PM
If this letter exists, someone needs to publish it. That it's being spun the way it is by a churnalist should be no surprise to anyone.
Record :suspect: & STVGrant running with same story makes it smell of Level5 :boik: pish and spin ! :ph43r:
Exactly, smells like them trying to create a narrative.
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Taken from CQN this evening:

WINNING CAPTAINS on 20TH JUNE 2016 10:17 PM

They blinked.


It has been torture biting our tongues.


Read what STV have said. Between the lines.


Then believe me when I say that is the best possible spin they can come up with.


In two weeks.


Now read it again carefully.


Hopefully very soon you will get a better idea about what all of this means.


And we’ll wipe the smile off the zombie faces.


The sooner the better.


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19 Jun 2016, 09:56 PM
As I've been trying to get across on here guys. . the mater is with UEFA.


CQN Magazine þ@CQNMagazine · 11m11 minutes ago

@pauln1984 @THE_TBK @McNallyMirror submission went to Uefa 1st June. Few weeks ago not months. Long time to get to that stage. SFA silence.



And just to clarify the 'submission' from the club was sent by club secretary Michael Nicholson.
fair play to you you were gen up :thumbsup:

whether it's too little too late is another thing but fingers crossed.
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21 Jun 2016, 12:53 AM
Taken from CQN this evening:

WINNING CAPTAINS on 20TH JUNE 2016 10:17 PM

They blinked.


It has been torture biting our tongues.


Read what STV have said. Between the lines.


Then believe me when I say that is the best possible spin they can come up with.


In two weeks.


Now read it again carefully.


Hopefully very soon you will get a better idea about what all of this means.


And we’ll wipe the smile off the zombie faces.


The sooner the better.


Subtext of that is they are a different club, but UEFA already dispelled that with the interruption in membership nonsense.

If they are putting trust in the board for a plan B, their plan A needed dragged out of them after 4 years.

With ST's sold I think we're done. :Bye:
Edited by Wanyerma, 21 Jun 2016, 01:35 AM.
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Edited by Wanyerma, 21 Jun 2016, 01:31 AM.
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21 Jun 2016, 12:53 AM
Taken from CQN this evening:

WINNING CAPTAINS on 20TH JUNE 2016 10:17 PM

They blinked.


It has been torture biting our tongues.


Read what STV have said. Between the lines.


Then believe me when I say that is the best possible spin they can come up with.


In two weeks.


Now read it again carefully.


Hopefully very soon you will get a better idea about what all of this means.


And we’ll wipe the smile off the zombie faces.


The sooner the better.


Thought it was all supposed to be about the SFA, governance etc & nothing about the zombies?

:ponder:

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