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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,624 Views)
pedrok
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11 Jun 2016, 01:34 PM
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11 Jun 2016, 01:32 PM
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11 Jun 2016, 12:56 PM

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As Pedrok stated above there can't be that many Huns buying the Gruniard that they would lose that much money. It's not like the Insider or Good Night & Good Luck, were large corporations are thinking of pulling the plug and endangering the existence of renowned media companies just to block a story.

It's a very strange decision from a newspaper that was prepared to run a very controversial ad for Zionists during the Gaza attack a couple of years back. By blocking the ad after the initial acceptance & with the bizarre excuses, it's just muddied the waters even more.
My point relates to advertising revenue, not the daily pence the punter pays for his fish and chip wrapper.
But again, what sort of financial pressures could be used against them?

Surely the threat of lost advertising revenue is not a new thing for a campaigning newspaper such as the Guardian. They must have faced it many times previous.

I can't answer any of the above, you may well be correct. It just seems utterly bizarre, and then the Greenslade stuff yesterday just makes it even more murkier.
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I think murphio has probably called it right when he suggested that the paper's executives just didn't want the hassle.
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paulfg42
11 Jun 2016, 01:45 PM
I think murphio has probably called it right when he suggested that the paper's executives just didn't want the hassle.
I don't think he has.

The Guardian ran the 'Rangers are a new club' advert from CQN last year.
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paulfg42
11 Jun 2016, 01:45 PM
I think murphio has probably called it right when he suggested that the paper's executives just didn't want the hassle.
I don't think he has.

The Guardian ran the 'Rangers are a new club' advert from CQN last year.
And they have ran a lot more controversial articles since then.
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11 Jun 2016, 02:14 PM
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paulfg42
11 Jun 2016, 01:45 PM
I think murphio has probably called it right when he suggested that the paper's executives just didn't want the hassle.
I don't think he has.

The Guardian ran the 'Rangers are a new club' advert from CQN last year.
And they have ran a lot more controversial articles since then.
Plus , what would any hassle amount to ? Some comments on a web page
and a few emails from hun A holes . Pretty sure they'll have had worse .
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paulfg42
11 Jun 2016, 01:45 PM
I think murphio has probably called it right when he suggested that the paper's executives just didn't want the hassle.
I don't think he has.

The Guardian ran the 'Rangers are a new club' advert from CQN last year.
Maybe the fallout from that one drove them nuts, so they didn't want a repeat.
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11 Jun 2016, 02:45 PM
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paulfg42
11 Jun 2016, 01:45 PM
I think murphio has probably called it right when he suggested that the paper's executives just didn't want the hassle.
I don't think he has.

The Guardian ran the 'Rangers are a new club' advert from CQN last year.
Maybe the fallout from that one drove them nuts, so they didn't want a repeat.
They took the 5 grand. Late intervention stuff, so that theory doesn't add up.
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Forgive me if this has already been asked but who is the intended target audience of the ad in The Guardian? I get that the ad in the Swiss paper was UEFA folk.
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11 Jun 2016, 02:47 PM
Forgive me if this has already been asked but who is the intended target audience of the ad in The Guardian? I get that the ad in the Swiss paper was UEFA folk.
I guess it's to draw attention to the issue to an audience as close to home as is possible, given the SMSM's conspiracy of silence, and I guess it was The Guardian they chose as it has a long and proud reputation for exposing wrong doing and corruption in public life.
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11 Jun 2016, 03:01 PM
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11 Jun 2016, 02:47 PM
Forgive me if this has already been asked but who is the intended target audience of the ad in The Guardian? I get that the ad in the Swiss paper was UEFA folk.
I guess it's to draw attention to the issue to an audience as close to home as is possible, given the SMSM's conspiracy of silence, and I guess it was The Guardian they chose as it has a long and proud reputation for exposing wrong doing and corruption in public life.
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CQN Magazine ‏@CQNMagazine 16h16 hours ago
@McNallyMirror @CQN @guardian @GreensladeR I spoke to Henry (Tucker) today. He confirmed he received two ads both in English. Both mono not colour.


Roy Greenslade @GreensladeR
@McNallyMirror @CQN Nobody at theGuardian constructed this. It was obviously sent to paper by someone.



The stench of Jabba

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No matter what way you look at it - the club's complete silence and inactivity over the Resolution 12 issue - leaving the fans to fight the battle in the press and with UEFA, is disgraceful.

Hopefully Desmond's putting of Lawwell in his place over the managers position will also be matched by a sudden engagement on the Resolution 12, rather than the lip-service and deflection tactics the Lawwell-led board has adopted over the past few years, hoping desperately that the issue will just 'go away'.
If Celtic are indeed sitting on the fence on this major issue, then it will be very unlikely that EUFA will want to take it any further without a supporting input from the club itself.
The club have already contacted UEFA officially to raise their concerns.

It's now out of the clubs hands and down to UEFA.
If this true then I am delighted, but I'm surprised that it has not been made public, not the detail, but just an assurance that they have indeed submitted a supporting input, can you elaborate on how you know this to be the situation.
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11 Jun 2016, 09:47 PM
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The club have already contacted UEFA officially to raise their concerns.

It's now out of the clubs hands and down to UEFA.
If this true then I am delighted, but I'm surprised that it has not been made public, not the detail, but just an assurance that they have indeed submitted a supporting input, can you elaborate on how you know this to be the situation.


This a quote from the CLUMPANY blog as of June 8th which would suggest if your earlier response is well founded then it has to have been a very recent development.

Of course, nothing would shout louder than a clear unambiguous statement from Celtic Football Club that they back the requisitioners and want UEFA to investigate the issues raised by them

Edited by smiddybar, 11 Jun 2016, 10:02 PM.
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Where to start..at the huddle down under and met a Sydneysider. Seemed to be going well until we got into the topic of finance and our CEO. Apparently he deserves to be the highest paid employee and everything else he does is great. We should be glad to have him. Our differential to Malmö is only 5k and therefore alright. But cannot argue more because he is right and I am wrong. End of!
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Re the idea that Jabba's used his Ladbrokes business to pressure The Guardian, surely that'd be an incredibly stupid thing to do. If Ladbrokes ever discovered that he used their name - and the threat of them withdrawing their business - they'd be furious and pull their business from Jabba?

And how often do you see a betting ad in the Guardian anyway?
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13 Jun 2016, 08:41 PM
Re the idea that Jabba's used his Ladbrokes business to pressure The Guardian, surely that'd be an incredibly stupid thing to do. If Ladbrokes ever discovered that he used their name - and the threat of them withdrawing their business - they'd be furious and pull their business from Jabba?

And how often do you see a betting ad in the Guardian anyway?
This Ladbrokes thing seems to have grown arms and legs. What exactly does Level 5 do for Ladbrokes? And why would a PR firm have a say in advertising strategy?

Maybe they're involved in their domestic sponsorship stuff up here, but I don't believe for a second that Level 5 do the PR for a company the size of Ladbrokes.
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13 Jun 2016, 09:23 PM
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13 Jun 2016, 08:41 PM
Re the idea that Jabba's used his Ladbrokes business to pressure The Guardian, surely that'd be an incredibly stupid thing to do. If Ladbrokes ever discovered that he used their name - and the threat of them withdrawing their business - they'd be furious and pull their business from Jabba?

And how often do you see a betting ad in the Guardian anyway?
This Ladbrokes thing seems to have grown arms and legs. What exactly does Level 5 do for Ladbrokes? And why would a PR firm have a say in advertising strategy?

Maybe they're involved in their domestic sponsorship stuff up here, but I don't believe for a second that Level 5 do the PR for a company the size of Ladbrokes.
I can't see it to be honest and I reckon that theory is just someone trying to figure out who would have enough clout to put pressure on the Gruniard. I haven't a clue on what's change the mind of the Gruniard but their behaviour suggests something murkier when it would have been easier just to run the ad and take the cash.



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idyllwild
13 Jun 2016, 09:23 PM
Brucebhoy
13 Jun 2016, 08:41 PM
Re the idea that Jabba's used his Ladbrokes business to pressure The Guardian, surely that'd be an incredibly stupid thing to do. If Ladbrokes ever discovered that he used their name - and the threat of them withdrawing their business - they'd be furious and pull their business from Jabba?

And how often do you see a betting ad in the Guardian anyway?
This Ladbrokes thing seems to have grown arms and legs. What exactly does Level 5 do for Ladbrokes? And why would a PR firm have a say in advertising strategy?

Maybe they're involved in their domestic sponsorship stuff up here, but I don't believe for a second that Level 5 do the PR for a company the size of Ladbrokes.
Agreed.

Surely Jack Irvine would be interested in getting to the bottom of that affair and exposing it.
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Curious thing is why the Guardian, who pride themselves in explaining issues have made such a terrible job of this.
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Time to get back to the important point about this. The Board have delivered a massive FU to the resolution 12 guys and all the fans.
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