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| The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,626 Views) | |
| He Cometh | 10 Jun 2016, 08:55 PM Post #7921 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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How do you define Celtic's alleged 'inactivity'? Do you include Celtic FC PLC officially contacting UEFA over this as part of Celtics 'inactivity'? |
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| pedrok | 10 Jun 2016, 09:06 PM Post #7922 |
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Considering retirement
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It wasn't a French version though. It was a mock up, with nonsense written in French, in order to provide an idea of space and how it would look in the area provided. I'm no graphic designer, but this is something that is done regular, I have seen the nonsense in Latin, to allow the graphics to fit the printing area. |
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| smiddybar | 10 Jun 2016, 10:00 PM Post #7923 |
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Occasional Substitute
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If Celtic are indeed sitting on the fence on this major issue, then it will be very unlikely that EUFA will want to take it any further without a supporting input from the club itself. |
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| He Cometh | 10 Jun 2016, 10:09 PM Post #7924 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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The club have already contacted UEFA officially to raise their concerns. It's now out of the clubs hands and down to UEFA. |
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| paulfg42 | 10 Jun 2016, 10:32 PM Post #7925 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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No reason, apart from the fact there would be little point. The Guardian say it was an editorial decision (I think) so why even mention the French thing? |
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| randombloke | 10 Jun 2016, 10:41 PM Post #7926 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Don't think he was saying it was a reason for rejecting....he was citing it as a reason why it wasn't immediately rejected - i.e. there was a delay getting it translated before it could be reviewed for acceptability. Sounds like a red herring to me any way as I can't think of a single reason why they would send the article in French to a UK newspaper But, I still don't necessarily see conspiracies here. As Murphio said a few pages back the advertising and/or legal departments probably just thought it wasn't worth the hassle of getting dragged in to (what they perceive as) a petty squabble between Celtic and Rangers fans. And it's totally plausible that it was initially accepted by somebody who didn't know or care what it was all about only to be later spiked by someone else who said "have you seen the mental scheidt this lot fills the comment pages with every time one of them even gets a mention in an article? Send the cheque back and just tell them no!" |
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| davesterjc | 10 Jun 2016, 11:06 PM Post #7927 |
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Got the vision.......
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Is it really that important if there was,wasn't or is a french version?! Is that the point? |
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| Wee Ed KTF | 10 Jun 2016, 11:55 PM Post #7928 |
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Considering retirement
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Is it a definite that Celtic "have already contacted UEFA officially to raise their concerns"? |
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| Wee Ed KTF | 11 Jun 2016, 12:09 AM Post #7929 |
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Considering retirement
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Zombies (Jabba?) claimed that CQN sent an English version of the ad to the Swiss paper and a French version to The Guardian This was dismissed as zombie lunacy The Guardian claimed that the Res 12 advert was rejected after it had been translated from French, because it was submitted to them in French CQN rejected that claim, saying categorically that there was no French version of the advert Greenslade of The Guardian repeated the paper's excuse, later providing what he claimed was evidence of the French version CQN then admitted there was some sort of mock-up of the advert in French Confusing, isn't it? |
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| rightsaidted | 11 Jun 2016, 12:38 AM Post #7930 |
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First-team starter
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Mr Greenslade claimed that the advert was in French and that he could prove it. He then produced the headline of the article in French but no actual article. The reason he couldn't produce it was because it was in gobbledygook. He failed to inform his readers of this and left them with the impression that a full article in French had been submitted for publication. It hadn't been. |
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| rightsaidted | 11 Jun 2016, 08:12 AM Post #7931 |
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First-team starter
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Looks like Alex Thompson disagrees with the 'non-conspiracy' theorists. He has tweeted insinuating that the Guardian are hiding something. (Can't provide the tweet, I'm not on Twitter. But a little birdie told me.) |
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| tenerifetim | 11 Jun 2016, 08:19 AM Post #7932 |
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Considering retirement
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Well Alex has definitely been poking around and getting runaround too ! alex thomson @alextomo 9h9 hours ago Why is The Guardian refusing to tell @Channel4News what rules the Scottish football advert broke? If there is no issue why not tell me? alex thomson @alextomo Jun 9 Sounding more like a govt press office than the Guardian, the paper will not explain further why they pulled the advert.
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| Busa Bhoy | 11 Jun 2016, 08:28 AM Post #7933 |
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First-team captain
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could it be that this would open a wider can of worms not just effecting celtic and the sfa. england perhaps??? |
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| john67 | 11 Jun 2016, 08:47 AM Post #7934 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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If the advert came in as the guardian say in French surely they would have asked for more than the £5k just to interpret into to English. Then when they refused to print and CQN asked for their money back surely they were within their rights to deduct translation fees |
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| tenerifetim | 11 Jun 2016, 09:02 AM Post #7935 |
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Considering retirement
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Translations cost as little as £10 a page , but I would imagine a couple of hundred quid would be a maximum - if it was ever submitted !
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| cautious dave | 11 Jun 2016, 09:08 AM Post #7936 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Possible but not very feasible. The Guardian would surely be able to find someone working at their paper who could read French and translate within minutes with no translation fee's necessary. "Hey Tom you're fluent in French, be a good chap and tell us what this stuff that some sweaty sent us." It was gobbledygook to demonstrate the layout of the ad hence no time or cost for translation required. I think the Guardian knew this all along and looking for an out. This is definitely one for the Media Thread. |
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| lisbonlion10 | 11 Jun 2016, 09:45 AM Post #7937 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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No advertising person would get an ad in French then translate it without telling the advertiser, it's utter nonsense - they would go back to the advertiser and say 'we need this in English'. The 'French' copy stuff is bizarre, why would the Guardian mock up an advert in French, there's plenty 'jabber' copy as it's called in Quark Xpress at least, to do that. Were they instructed to? CQN says they never did a French version at all. So someone is lying somewhere. |
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| Lubo The Magician | 11 Jun 2016, 10:03 AM Post #7938 |
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The Devil's right hand...
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Very unlikely, it would be the equivalent of saying The Guardian would not publish a story about a Russian Olympic athlete doping for fear it would result English athletes being targeted/tested |
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| Lobey Dosser | 11 Jun 2016, 10:06 AM Post #7939 |
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Considering retirement
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If so you would expect that bastion of truth and liberty the Grauniad to expose the detail. No? |
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| noelab | 11 Jun 2016, 10:06 AM Post #7940 |
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Club Captain
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CQN blogged yesterday that the Guardian confirmed receiving the ad in English. This translation stuff is all bluff anyway. Fact is that someone is afraid of loosing the Hun pound. |
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