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| The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,628 Views) | |
| shugmc | 10 Jun 2016, 11:37 AM Post #7881 |
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I was there
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Looks like the Graun can't be bothered with the hassle. I expect better from Greenslade, right enough ![]() Hopefully Private Eye will print it. They don't give a f*ck who they annoy
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| idyllwild | 10 Jun 2016, 11:38 AM Post #7882 |
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The other part of the conspiracy I don't understand is the belief that the sponsors of Scottish football might not want a public squabble between Celtic and Rangers. Eff sake, anyone involved in the game should be playing up the rivalry. Might even be the reason why the club are rumoured to be breaking cover on it. Good for business to fight with the Huns, but without going down the "Old Firm" route. |
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| Cossy | 10 Jun 2016, 11:40 AM Post #7883 |
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First-team captain
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No Resolution 12 refers to when it was first brought up at a Celtic AGM. |
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| Devo | 10 Jun 2016, 11:40 AM Post #7884 |
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Occasional Substitute
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Or Sky and BT which both want the 'old firm' to continue and don't want anything to upset that myth. |
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| Luca | 10 Jun 2016, 11:43 AM Post #7885 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Aah, ok, thanks for that. |
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| greenjedi | 10 Jun 2016, 11:57 AM Post #7886 |
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Jedi Master
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I'm begining to think that the board only hired Rodgers to get season tickets moving so they wouldn't have to comment on resolution 12 to get the fans to sign up |
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| fatboab | 10 Jun 2016, 12:01 PM Post #7887 |
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Just before the Dawn
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you'll run out of tin foil at this rate.
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| greenjedi | 10 Jun 2016, 12:06 PM Post #7888 |
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Jedi Master
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As I said a few days ago the only reason the Board would have backed the fans and Res12 was if they needed them. They don't need us now, as they've got the dosh |
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| Hoops For Me All The Way | 10 Jun 2016, 01:33 PM Post #7889 |
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You want equality? Consider if that person feels Equal.
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I must be wrong, as I was under the impression that this has ramifications for European football relative to UEFA. Of course, there is a domestic element and I agree with you entirely on that aspect. I wonder if the issue might concern other European clubs that RFC encountered on that particular European journey. Maybe in terms of equality of application of rules to allow all teams to participate in UEFA competitions. You could then perhaps ask if other clubs who have been the subject of sanctions by UEFA for licensing breaches might have an interest, as they might wish to witness rules applied equitably. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 10 Jun 2016, 01:38 PM Post #7890 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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Every team they played beat them
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| CHR15 | 10 Jun 2016, 02:54 PM Post #7891 |
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I'll take 2 of those feckin sheep giraffes please
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Did you miss the bits where CQN relayed the conversations of the ad being spiked from way above the sales editors? |
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| Wee Ed KTF | 10 Jun 2016, 02:57 PM Post #7892 |
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Considering retirement
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And why did The Guardian lie about a French version of the advert, when there was not, ever a French version?
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| trevg | 10 Jun 2016, 03:08 PM Post #7893 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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By the time The Guardian had finished with it the ad would probably look like it was in a foreign language
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| CHR15 | 10 Jun 2016, 03:10 PM Post #7894 |
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I'll take 2 of those feckin sheep giraffes please
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Resolution 12 was introduced at the 2013 Celtic AGM. It requested the club ask UEFA to investigate the circumstances around the deid Huns getting a licence (from the SFA) to play in UEFA competition in season 2011-2012 UEFA Article 50 requires licence applicants to have no overdue payables to social and tax authorities as of the March 30 cutoff date UEFA Article 66 is similar, but the cutoff date is 30 June We know HMRC sent the Huns a bill in May 2011 (around 16 May) with a determination they owed 2.8M in taxes over the Discounted Options Scheme (DOS) used to remunerate Tore Andre Flo and Ronald De Boer. We know that same bill had 30 days to be paid before HMRC said they'd proceed with enforcement action We know the SFA have repeatedly said because there was no 'agreed' liability prior to the March 30 cutoff date, they correctly allowed the deid Huns a licence for Europe for season 2011-2012 per Article 50 We know (per the HMRC bill sent in May) that the deid Huns had agreed the liability at least by that point We know the bill was never paid We know the deid Huns raised a petition at the Court of Session to have the HMRC determinations set aside in early June 2011 We don't know (ok, I don't know) what transpired from that petition We know the SFA are claiming the period ending June 30 (per UEFA Article 66) was UEFA's responsibility to monitor and not theirs We know the Huns had (per UEFA Article 66) to declare to the SFA they had no overdue payables to HMRC on the June 30 cutoff date, with a requirement to show written acceptance of a deferral agreement by HMRC (the creditor) if they were claiming the overdue payable (tax bill of 2.8M) was deferred or on a payment plan. (The other requirement was to have an accepted legal case against the bill, see my earlier line re: Court of Session, if no deferral agreement/payment plan was in place and accepted in writing by HMRC) We don't know what the deid Huns said to the SFA nor do we know what the SFA did with any info the deid Huns threw their way I think that's all correct. |
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| londonroad | 10 Jun 2016, 03:31 PM Post #7895 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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So, in summary, there are known knowns and known unknowns but we don't know if there are unknown knowns? #donaldrumsfeld.csc |
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| markovan | 10 Jun 2016, 03:31 PM Post #7896 |
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Why don't we just wait here for a while... see what happens.
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Get some European money but give no opposition a reason to complain. Was Whittaker not sent off after 18 mins for a stupid, some might say planned, ball throwing incident in one of those affected games? I never understood why he did it and thought it was a Murray vs Whyte issue. Makes a wee bit more sense now... |
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| Smiley | 10 Jun 2016, 03:34 PM Post #7897 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Even if it really was passed to a boss's boss's boss that doesn't suggest a conspiracy, though - this may well be normal practice in the Guardian, sounds like normal practice at my midden anyway. And the claim about it being in French mightn't be a lie either - is simply making a mistake not more likely here? Unless...well, what's the suggestion here? A sales manager pretended the ad was originally in French...for what conspiratorial benefit exactly? |
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| idyllwild | 10 Jun 2016, 03:38 PM Post #7898 |
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Sorry, I haven't gone near CQN for years. To be honest, I don't actually understand what grand conspiracy the Guardian are supposed to be part of here. Who's bidding are they doing by rejecting an advert, and why? As I said, my opinion is that they probably can't be arsed with the hassle of what the world outside Scottish football (rightly or wrongly) sees as a domestic dispute between us and them. We've a fair old history of acting offended and cliping to UEFA about one another's slightest perceived indiscretions. It'd hardly be a surprise if the rest of the world chose not to be a conduit for what they probably perceive to be more of the same. Because this stuff with us and them never ends after one isolated action. It goes on forever, even after they died. Is this issue worth highlighting? Yes. Is it also understandable that others may not give a eff or wish to be involved? Yes. |
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| murphio | 10 Jun 2016, 04:01 PM Post #7899 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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Spot on. |
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| Adam Smith 11 | 10 Jun 2016, 04:09 PM Post #7900 |
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Contract up for renewal, now on a diet and trying harder.
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Next you will be telling us Bielefeld is real.
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