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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,630 Views)
lunarhog
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Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 09:45 AM
tinytim81
10 Jun 2016, 09:31 AM
I assume there can only be one of two reasons for the Guardian's decision:

1. Lots of Sevco fans are avid Guardian readers and they don't want to upset them.

2. They were concerned that there could be legal ramifications if they ran the 'ad' which as I understand it was basically just a statement.

Based on the fact option one is an impossibility I'd go with the latter.
Someone else said it may have been due to pressure applied by sponsors like Ladbrokes & William Hill - Ladbrokes are Level 5 and Ralph Topping is heavily involved with William Hill.

Not sure where I read it may have been here or on twitter.

I suspect there is a masonic element to all this.

The Guardian is also owned by the Trinity Mirror group who own the DR
and let's not forget the Bildeberg conference is being held today and tomorrow. Coincidence? I think not
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rightsaidted
10 Jun 2016, 09:26 AM
He doesn't say that the ad was in French. He is "mocking" that the ad was placed in a french language paper hence his suggestion that the ad is placed in French in the english written Granuiad.

However all he is doing is bringing this to more people's attention. The more people comment the more chance there is of achieving the goal.

All we need now is for Celtic to step up to the plate :pray: :pray: :pray:
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Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 09:45 AM
tinytim81
10 Jun 2016, 09:31 AM
I assume there can only be one of two reasons for the Guardian's decision:

1. Lots of Sevco fans are avid Guardian readers and they don't want to upset them.

2. They were concerned that there could be legal ramifications if they ran the 'ad' which as I understand it was basically just a statement.

Based on the fact option one is an impossibility I'd go with the latter.
Someone else said it may have been due to pressure applied by sponsors like Ladbrokes & William Hill - Ladbrokes are Level 5 and Ralph Topping is heavily involved with William Hill.

Not sure where I read it may have been here or on twitter.

I suspect there is a masonic element to all this.

The Guardian is also owned by the Trinity Mirror group who own the DR
The Guardian isn't owned by Trinity Mirror.
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idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:02 AM
Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 09:45 AM
tinytim81
10 Jun 2016, 09:31 AM
I assume there can only be one of two reasons for the Guardian's decision:

1. Lots of Sevco fans are avid Guardian readers and they don't want to upset them.

2. They were concerned that there could be legal ramifications if they ran the 'ad' which as I understand it was basically just a statement.

Based on the fact option one is an impossibility I'd go with the latter.
Someone else said it may have been due to pressure applied by sponsors like Ladbrokes & William Hill - Ladbrokes are Level 5 and Ralph Topping is heavily involved with William Hill.

Not sure where I read it may have been here or on twitter.

I suspect there is a masonic element to all this.

The Guardian is also owned by the Trinity Mirror group who own the DR
The Guardian isn't owned by Trinity Mirror.
Guardian Media Group, no?
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idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:02 AM
Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 09:45 AM
tinytim81
10 Jun 2016, 09:31 AM
I assume there can only be one of two reasons for the Guardian's decision:

1. Lots of Sevco fans are avid Guardian readers and they don't want to upset them.

2. They were concerned that there could be legal ramifications if they ran the 'ad' which as I understand it was basically just a statement.

Based on the fact option one is an impossibility I'd go with the latter.
Someone else said it may have been due to pressure applied by sponsors like Ladbrokes & William Hill - Ladbrokes are Level 5 and Ralph Topping is heavily involved with William Hill.

Not sure where I read it may have been here or on twitter.

I suspect there is a masonic element to all this.

The Guardian is also owned by the Trinity Mirror group who own the DR
The Guardian isn't owned by Trinity Mirror.
It's the Scott Trust I think
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The Guardian's in no position to run summit that could potentially cost it advertising revenue. It'll be the exact same situation as the Herald a few months back.
Edited by Joseph D. Pistone, 10 Jun 2016, 10:06 AM.
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All the more reason for Celtic PLC to issue a statement on the RES12 governance issue now, so that it can't be ignored by the MSM or SFA.

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idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:02 AM
Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 09:45 AM
tinytim81
10 Jun 2016, 09:31 AM
I assume there can only be one of two reasons for the Guardian's decision:

1. Lots of Sevco fans are avid Guardian readers and they don't want to upset them.

2. They were concerned that there could be legal ramifications if they ran the 'ad' which as I understand it was basically just a statement.

Based on the fact option one is an impossibility I'd go with the latter.
Someone else said it may have been due to pressure applied by sponsors like Ladbrokes & William Hill - Ladbrokes are Level 5 and Ralph Topping is heavily involved with William Hill.

Not sure where I read it may have been here or on twitter.

I suspect there is a masonic element to all this.

The Guardian is also owned by the Trinity Mirror group who own the DR
The Guardian isn't owned by Trinity Mirror.
In February 2010, the group sold its GMG Regional Media division (consisting of two companies MEN Media and S&B Media which operated 31 local and regional newspaper titles) to Trinity Mirror for £44.8 million

:ponder:
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Is there a chance the English press find Scottish football so inconsequential they thought "why take the chance ". This story and others regarding various aspects of football governance in Scotland have been doing the rounds for years and, with the exception of channel 4, the national media have not given an iota of interest.
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Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 10:19 AM
idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:02 AM
Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 09:45 AM

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The Guardian isn't owned by Trinity Mirror.
In February 2010, the group sold its GMG Regional Media division (consisting of two companies MEN Media and S&B Media which operated 31 local and regional newspaper titles) to Trinity Mirror for £44.8 million

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It sold a bunch of regional titles. It didn't sell The Guardian.
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tinytim81
10 Jun 2016, 09:31 AM
I assume there can only be one of two reasons for the Guardian's decision:

1. Lots of Sevco fans are avid Guardian readers and they don't want to upset them.

2. They were concerned that there could be legal ramifications if they ran the 'ad' which as I understand it was basically just a statement.

Based on the fact option one is an impossibility I'd go with the latter.
Your assumption is wrong.

The Guardian is desperate to retain all advertising revenues and will bow to advertisers wishes.

Follow the money.
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The Guardian really have made an arse of this

http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/resolution-12-greenslade-at-the-guardian-lies-or-just-lazy-journalism/

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idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:20 AM
Kingslim
10 Jun 2016, 10:19 AM
idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:02 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
In February 2010, the group sold its GMG Regional Media division (consisting of two companies MEN Media and S&B Media which operated 31 local and regional newspaper titles) to Trinity Mirror for £44.8 million

:ponder:
It sold a bunch of regional titles. It didn't sell The Guardian.
ok, wasn't sure.

Thanks :thumbsup:
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Ladbrokes is poised to increase its sponsorship of the Scottish Professional Football League by signing a new contract through to 2019, with its current deal due to end in 2017. (The Sun, print edition)

:suspect:
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idyllwild


I don't see the big deal here. Journalists can be wrong, and newspapers can reject adverts for "normal" business or legal reasons. It probably happens pretty frequently.

It doesn't need to be part of a grand conspiracy.
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Today would be a good day for Celtic to issue a statement.
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idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:28 AM
I don't see the big deal here. Journalists can be wrong, and newspapers can reject adverts for "normal" business or legal reasons. It probably happens pretty frequently.

It doesn't need to be part of a grand conspiracy.
Issue is it's Greenslade who has painted himself as the master of ethics in journalism and ha slagged off the SMSM for poor journalistic ethics when he seems to have done the same thing for the benefit of the same people
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Btw, I noticed on other forums that guys were complaining that they had posts deleted from the Guardian website. (Reiver on SFM was one.) I too had a post regarding the Offshore Tax report removed from the Guardian site. (I had a post removed from here on KDS at the same time so just put it down to me being totally crap at posting in particular, and life in general.) However, it seems pretty clear now that they were not allowing any comments which were critical of the SFA/Sevco. My post was not written in French and I assume, neither was Reivers. This was, and is, a campaign to silence and snuff out an unwelcome message.
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10 Jun 2016, 10:30 AM
idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:28 AM
I don't see the big deal here. Journalists can be wrong, and newspapers can reject adverts for "normal" business or legal reasons. It probably happens pretty frequently.

It doesn't need to be part of a grand conspiracy.
Issue is it's Greenslade who has painted himself as the master of ethics in journalism and ha slagged off the SMSM for poor journalistic ethics when he seems to have done the same thing for the benefit of the same people
I agree, looks like he's made an arse of it. I just don't assume that he's intentionally and knowingly doing it at the behest of Level 5 in order to benefit Sevco.
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idyllwild
10 Jun 2016, 10:28 AM
I don't see the big deal here. Journalists can be wrong, and newspapers can reject adverts for "normal" business or legal reasons. It probably happens pretty frequently.

It doesn't need to be part of a grand conspiracy.
And the claim that they received the advert in French?
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