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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,988 Views) | |
| TheEvilGenius | 31 Jul 2014, 11:16 PM Post #741 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Or Celtic. |
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| pablo5 | 31 Jul 2014, 11:20 PM Post #742 |
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Whatever it is, there's not enough of it
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If that system isn't working then John Park should follow suit. |
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| Klepton | 1 Aug 2014, 12:22 AM Post #743 |
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Considering retirement
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The chief scout isn't responsible for deciding who we sign, the director of football is. |
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| pauldg1 | 1 Aug 2014, 12:47 AM Post #744 |
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A spray tanned Furby, eating KFC and screaming at a Gold Star family
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I know that these don't encompass the entire operation, but they are still telling. |
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| Midfield Maestro | 1 Aug 2014, 12:47 AM Post #745 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Money spent on players, money received for players and prize money are all shown in the accounts. What you were talking about earlier (fraud) is not happening. |
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| slippy67 | 1 Aug 2014, 12:52 AM Post #746 |
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Occasional Substitute
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PL is just a rich mans Rod Petrie, Left alone and given enough time he will contribute, if not cause, the biggest slide in our recent history. Chief executives are businessmen not football scouts. I would also like to know if anyone on here has the signings of last few years & who their agent is as I feel thats worth looking into. Lennon gave away enough clues today without breaking whatever confidentiality clause has signed regarding his own departure, which for me was telling. As for some of our support slaughtering Lennon for "putting the boot in" you have to laugh, these are the same fans who slaughtered the zombies these last 2 years for not liking the truth because they didn't like who was telling them it. PL has pulled the wool over fans eyes once too often. He used his lapdogs in media to sell the support on the brave new world under RD with fantastic stories of free flowing 4-3-3. I'm still behind the manager as he must be given a chance but the Celtic support should remember that lamb is lamb regardless of who's serving it. |
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| murphio | 1 Aug 2014, 01:07 AM Post #747 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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You forgot wages which is kind of important - unless you think the players play for nothing. Otherwise - its actually not 'telling' at all. |
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| TheEvilGenius | 1 Aug 2014, 01:15 AM Post #748 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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#Because President Pedro rules the world
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| nakasboots | 1 Aug 2014, 01:21 AM Post #749 |
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Those figures aren't 'telling' enough? What about these? http://www.celticfc.net/news/5398?item=5398 Profits up, operational costs down. Quality of team is on a continual spiral. WTF are fans supposed to think? The money went on the wi-fi, or the lovely revamp the council paid for? Jesus Christ, anyone failing to question the board must enjoy being thoroughly shafted whilst wearing a little woolen blindfold.
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| beer_goggler1888 | 1 Aug 2014, 01:58 AM Post #750 |
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Harp Lager ICE cold
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Our next set of figures should complete our bigger picture. Season ticket money plus champions league prize money still to be added. Then we have more player sales Our bank balance will turn out pretty well id guess We've a oversized sqaud of around 40 players in the first team pool alone. 40% will never make more than a handful of appearances and most are just shampooe footballers. Just a drain on wage resources. Scouting is becoming an ever increasing problem , Craig Gordon rang the alarm bells. The duds are growing in number as our cash outlay decreases. Who takes the blame? Peter flogs our better players quick as they arrive and buys bulk and cheap. For the price of 2 duds we could have had one of a higher standard. Just an amateurish operation , now just a bland and banal football 'brand' devoid of any icons or heroes. |
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| murphio | 1 Aug 2014, 02:11 AM Post #751 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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You can't just take two figures and post them in isolation and completely without context. They are absolutely meaningless. Celtic's income and expenditure is set out in black and white in the accounts to the last penny. There is no missing money - it has all been spent. Now regardless of whether you think it has been spent correctly there is no dark figures in the background trousering cash. The very suggestion is ludicrous. Are Celtic risk adverse? Absolutely? Are our resources being used correctly? Highly questionable? Is someone stealing - absolutely not. |
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| Lewis Hamilton's Biggest Fan | 1 Aug 2014, 04:53 AM Post #752 |
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Still Hooped 4 Life, no ye urni
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John Park has more say over transfer dealings than any other member of staff at Celtic Park. I've said it before but there's people on here who know Lennon who would be able to back up the fact Lennon had identified a player he'd seen and wanted. Fresh from going to see him he phoned and said that's who he wanted. Surprise surprise when he got back he was told the deal wasn't happening as Park had found someone cheaper and younger with a similar goalscoring pedigree. We signed Parks man. That's when it was clear to me that Park isn't just chief scout or head of development, he's pretty much the GM to a coach. I believed at that stage Lenny should have stood up and told all to the media and said I'm out of here. He continued in though and left at the end of the season and I'm sure that was one of his "many" factors in leaving. |
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| zombieslayer35 | 1 Aug 2014, 07:26 AM Post #753 |
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Getting on a bit
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Accounting for dummies going on here
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| idyllwild | 1 Aug 2014, 07:50 AM Post #754 |
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No, they're not. You can't tell a single thing from them unless you look at the rest of our income and expenditure. |
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| josephledley | 1 Aug 2014, 07:52 AM Post #755 |
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First-team starter
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Surely just a real concern about where the money has went? You can't be happy that we have sold so many players for "big money" and watch the standard of the team slide so much? Surely the time has come to say lawell, park you've done a shampoo job get your jacket and get to eff? Surely its time that as a group of supporters we actually show some proper passion for change and force the leeches out of the club who are a constant drain on the finances by doing such a shampoo job? That's a lot more passionate than friggin doing the huddle in the europa league or singing about paddy mccourts fenian army? As for dermot desmond he's as much use as the rest of them |
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| Broadsword | 1 Aug 2014, 07:54 AM Post #756 |
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Can I have 12 bottles of bleach please?
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They've managed to deliver a lovely driveway and the garden has been tidied up. Just a shame that no bastard will want to go into the house though. |
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| DKB | 1 Aug 2014, 07:57 AM Post #757 |
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Getting on a bit
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IMO the income from sponsors, season tickets, broadcast money, gate, etc etc should match the cost of running the stadium and paying the wages income from player sales and price money should be used to strengthen the squad there is something wrong if a club of Celtic size can't make the finances run even (at least) without extra money from the CL or player sales |
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| idyllwild | 1 Aug 2014, 07:58 AM Post #758 |
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All of the information on "where the money has went" is available in the accounts. There's absolutely no need to make shampoo up, which people have been doing in this thread. |
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| josephledley | 1 Aug 2014, 08:05 AM Post #759 |
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First-team starter
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Where the money has went is the reason is why lawell ansd park should be hunted before flag night. This is going to take us years to recover from. We have wasted millions upon millions of pounds on shampooe. The club has been hugely mismanaged |
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| idyllwild | 1 Aug 2014, 08:13 AM Post #760 |
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People are saying that they cannot see where the money is going. They're wrong, anyone can see where the money is going. Asking "where has the money gone?" is an entirely different question to asking "why has the money been spent on xyz?". What you're saying, and what I agree with to an extent, is that the club has being poorly managed. |
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Our bank balance will turn out pretty well id guess 


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