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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,677 Views)
MBhoy1888
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ChiliPepper
18 Apr 2016, 06:05 PM
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18 Apr 2016, 05:24 PM
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18 Apr 2016, 05:12 PM

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I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out!

See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine :thumbsup:

Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45%

Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too?

CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion.

The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them

CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs?
If you know yer history and all that.

Celtic is definitely more than about football. Maybe not to you, and I don't say that to demean you or say you're not fan, but Celtic means a lot, lot more than just football to many people and you can't tell them otherwise.

The ideology of the board is what's putting/put the city, and Celtic park's immediate surroundings into sickening levels of poverty. They don't care, but Brother Walfrid did. We need higher standards.
We have a charitable tradition which is stil continued and going strong in the current set up, all this stuff about unionists and tories is a load of complete guff.
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LambertandButler
18 Apr 2016, 05:36 PM
Under normal circumstances, the political beliefs of the board members would not be that big an issue.

Bob Kelly wasn't exactly a radical.

But I think it becomes an issue when it adds to the impression that the board and the fans are just on different wavelengths entirely. The fact that the board is stuffed with Tory Lords and well-known businessmen typifies how far the board is from the majority of the fans (not all of them). And when things are going badly, that just highlights it all.
Good post.

No matter what your political leanings are, it's hard to find much of a connection with anyone at board level right now. Despite all the grumbling, I think they actually care about the club, they just don't understand the fans and what makes them happy.
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jbj712
18 Apr 2016, 05:32 PM
Quiet Assasin
18 Apr 2016, 05:30 PM
jbj712
18 Apr 2016, 05:24 PM

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The board have many failings and their politics isn't one?

Is that right?

So a club founded to educate and fed children and the unemployed having a Tory peer on its board isn't a failing? Whilst the Tories dismantle the welfare state and cause untold harm to the poor, the sick and the disabled?

I guess I'm just part of the racist campaign our chairman was talking about though.
Grow up, that club disappeared about 1898 :lol:
Are you suggesting we're a new club :carpark:
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MBhoy1888
18 Apr 2016, 06:33 PM
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18 Apr 2016, 06:05 PM
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18 Apr 2016, 05:24 PM

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If you know yer history and all that.

Celtic is definitely more than about football. Maybe not to you, and I don't say that to demean you or say you're not fan, but Celtic means a lot, lot more than just football to many people and you can't tell them otherwise.

The ideology of the board is what's putting/put the city, and Celtic park's immediate surroundings into sickening levels of poverty. They don't care, but Brother Walfrid did. We need higher standards.
We have a charitable tradition which is stil continued and going strong in the current set up, all this stuff about unionists and tories is a load of complete guff.
Say what you want about unioninsm. I didn't allude to that, though I do find it to be a particularly stupid belief to hold, but that's besides the point.

Charities don't make up for the ideology that members of the board buy into. The charities are there to fight against the consequences of such a selfish ideology. In fact, the ideology of the board makes charities necessary.

Every club has a charity, but they don't all have Celtic's roots. Celtic just act like we're different and use the history to punt us DVDs, but our actions speak louder than words and our actions are hurting the people we were supposed to protect. Saying the Celtic charity makes up for having tories that cause poverty is like pushing someone out in the cold and saying it's fine because you gave them a hat.

We were founded to fight poverty but do more to cause it now.
Edited by ChiliPepper, 18 Apr 2016, 07:05 PM.
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:lol: I do love a wee rerun of the independence debate. It's like getting stoned with confetti.

That ship has sailed. A bit like the generation of dominance. Desist, FFS!

Wha's like us, right enough.
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Torquemada
18 Apr 2016, 07:37 PM
:lol: I do love a wee rerun of the independence debate. It's like getting stoned with confetti.

That ship has sailed. A bit like the generation of dominance. Desist, FFS!

Wha's like us, right enough.
Our day will come :arrr:
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18 Apr 2016, 07:37 PM
It's like getting stoned with confetti.

I'm having that! :lol:
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I had put this paragraph in my post on the Deila thread but it also belongs here:

"Last but not least - the complete ownership, executive and scouting groups can F right off! They have put us in a real mess. They love to blame everything on the EPL Sky money but in actuality, Celtic cant even compete in Europe against teams with a much smaller budget than ours".

DD, PL, ER and co.....please just go now.
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18 Apr 2016, 03:48 PM
Porto have 'access' to Brasilians in the sense they share a common language and the weather in Portugal is probably nicer than Scotland. The work permit issue is a total squirrel. We could get a work permit for almost anyone we signed.
You can add football culture to language and weather, in terms of Portugal's competitive advantage over us in the Brazilan market.

But Brazil was just an afterthought. Portuguese football has been producing very good players for as long as I can remember. Scottish football, on the other hand...
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There is a total disconnect between those running the club and the support.

Whether or not that has anything to do with their politics, I don't know.

But i do know that too many of our directors have been overly rewarded and possibly as a result they have a vastly over inflated opinion of both their worth and what they do. They are complacent and whilst I do not want to go down the line of appointing someone from say the CST on the board, I think the boardroom badly needs an injection of fresh talent and some folk whose background is maybe different from some of those currently there.
Edited by Corky Buczek, 18 Apr 2016, 08:32 PM.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:54 PM
The position that we're in today would have been unthinkable back in 2012.

Our main - and only - rivals are liquidated, deid, giving us a gimme at three league titles (four-in-a-row) and a free shot at the Champions League qualifiers and the potential windfall they offer. It's not unreasonable to think that we should be collecting at least one of the other domestic trophies, every season, during this time while maybe using the breathing space of a relatively uncompetitive league to blood a good few young players whilst developing a team off the back of that (potential) Champions League cash which can dominate on and off the park when the zombie incarnation across the city inevitably arrives in the Premier League.

Of course, they implode under the management of the fat gardener and Charles Green and we're given a stroll to another league title and another crack at the Champions League. Four years without having to look over our shoulders and worry about what a strong contender is doing. Four years to develop a football team and a strategy which should see us dominate even if Sevco are semi-competent when they reach the top league. And what do we do? We start selling our best players to effing Norwich and Southampton. There's nothing unusual in the odd top player leaving Celtic over the years, but every effing season? Of course, we fail to replace them and begin spunking cash on SPL diddies and Pukki's and Boerrigter's. We replace a rookie - yet successful - manager with a rookie project who has know effing idea of the pressure at a club like Celtic. And we expect that he's going to be able to guide a squad of SPL diddies into the Champions League. Which invariably he doesn't.

Meanwhile across the city the zombies have stopped pissing around with dross like McCoist and McCall, gotten rid of the overpaid has-beens and employed a fairly competent manager who has a young, hungry team playing the style of football we were promised by our Norwegian pet project. It's important not to go overboard and remember that yesterday was just one game and that there are still a hell of a lot of problems at Sevco, but they are closer to us than many imagined. We'll be going into this summer with a new manager ( :pray: ) who will have a matter of weeks to rebuild before the Champions League qualifiers and put together a team who won't bottle it and suffer the same kind of embarrassment we did yesterday.

We've developed one good (very good) player of our own in those four years and have an inflated squad filled, largely, with pure dross. What happens on the park, rightly, lies firmly at the feet of the manager - and he will surely pay for that with his job when the season is over. But he's not the only one who should be leaving Celtic Park this summer. For the kind of advantage we found ourselves with four years ago to have blown up in our faces the way it did yesterday is nothing less than a complete failure of management at an executive level. It is a disgrace, and in any other industry heads would be rolling right now.
This.

The extent to which they've f*cked this up is absolutely atrocious. We've still got time to steady the ship a little this summer and re-assert a little bit of authority but if we delay and lose out on a half decent manager, or, worse still, go into next season with this haddie in charge, things could go south in a pretty nasty fashion.
Edited by paranoid_and_proud, 18 Apr 2016, 08:34 PM.
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Looks like they're deploying the usual strategy- do nothing and hope all these bad things just go away.
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18 Apr 2016, 04:42 PM
I actually don't think we're in too bad of a state. Despite their obvious failings we've got a collection of players with individual talent. The current diddy in charge clearly can't get the best out of them, but the next guy might. We've seen most of this squad play better than they are right now. Deila's a bit of a Jonah, if someone inspiring replaces him then who knows.
A good few on here are grossly underestimating the influence a manager has on a team.

There's countless examples of a new manager reaching heights previously thought unimaginable with largely the same core of players.
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I would love to think the board have someone lined up. My head says they will wait till the last minute.
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aldo
18 Apr 2016, 08:27 PM
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18 Apr 2016, 07:37 PM
It's like getting stoned with confetti.

I'm having that! :lol:
Much is it an ounce?
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18 Apr 2016, 01:19 PM
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This is just the start , Lawwell has lost all credibility with the supporters, his constant downsizing of everything at the club apart from his obscene salary has come home to roost .
the lack of any ambition to actually build a team , the lack of forward planning other than to identify and ultimately sell any half decent players has ripped the heart out of us.
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18 Apr 2016, 04:42 PM
I actually don't think we're in too bad of a state. Despite their obvious failings we've got a collection of players with individual talent. The current diddy in charge clearly can't get the best out of them, but the next guy might. We've seen most of this squad play better than they are right now. Deila's a bit of a Jonah, if someone inspiring replaces him then who knows.
I agree someone can get more out of them but the next guy is still gonna have Lawwell running things who has as much ambition as an account and will want to get things done on the cheap. How many dud signings will get brought in for the new manager just to disregard because it's a shampooier Amid Balde or Carlton Cole. Feck, we've not had strikers as shampooey since Wayne Biggins.

Unless Lawwell relinquish's control of the football side of things then it's more of the same.
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18 Apr 2016, 09:43 PM
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This is just the start , Lawwell has lost all credibility with the supporters, his constant downsizing of everything at the club apart from his obscene salary has come home to roost .
the lack of any ambition to actually build a team , the lack of forward planning other than to identify and ultimately sell any half decent players has ripped the heart out of us.
From what I heard, he wasn't even at work today :lol:
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18 Apr 2016, 09:55 PM
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This is just the start , Lawwell has lost all credibility with the supporters, his constant downsizing of everything at the club apart from his obscene salary has come home to roost .
the lack of any ambition to actually build a team , the lack of forward planning other than to identify and ultimately sell any half decent players has ripped the heart out of us.
From what I heard, he wasn't even at work today :lol:
Bastard. He'd have chucked it as soon as he clocked that too.
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From what I heard, he wasn't even at work today :lol:
Bastard. He'd have chucked it as soon as he clocked that too.
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