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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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Still we sing with our heroes, thirty-three-rounds-per-minute
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The position that we're in today would have been unthinkable back in 2012.
Our main - and only - rivals are liquidated, deid, giving us a gimme at three league titles (four-in-a-row) and a free shot at the Champions League qualifiers and the potential windfall they offer. It's not unreasonable to think that we should be collecting at least one of the other domestic trophies, every season, during this time while maybe using the breathing space of a relatively uncompetitive league to blood a good few young players whilst developing a team off the back of that (potential) Champions League cash which can dominate on and off the park when the zombie incarnation across the city inevitably arrives in the Premier League.
Of course, they implode under the management of the fat gardener and Charles Green and we're given a stroll to another league title and another crack at the Champions League. Four years without having to look over our shoulders and worry about what a strong contender is doing. Four years to develop a football team and a strategy which should see us dominate even if Sevco are semi-competent when they reach the top league. And what do we do? We start selling our best players to effing Norwich and Southampton. There's nothing unusual in the odd top player leaving Celtic over the years, but every effing season? Of course, we fail to replace them and begin spunking cash on SPL diddies and Pukki's and Boerrigter's. We replace a rookie - yet successful - manager with a rookie project who has know effing idea of the pressure at a club like Celtic. And we expect that he's going to be able to guide a squad of SPL diddies into the Champions League. Which invariably he doesn't.
Meanwhile across the city the zombies have stopped pissing around with dross like McCoist and McCall, gotten rid of the overpaid has-beens and employed a fairly competent manager who has a young, hungry team playing the style of football we were promised by our Norwegian pet project. It's important not to go overboard and remember that yesterday was just one game and that there are still a hell of a lot of problems at Sevco, but they are closer to us than many imagined. We'll be going into this summer with a new manager ( ) who will have a matter of weeks to rebuild before the Champions League qualifiers and put together a team who won't bottle it and suffer the same kind of embarrassment we did yesterday.
We've developed one good (very good) player of our own in those four years and have an inflated squad filled, largely, with pure dross. What happens on the park, rightly, lies firmly at the feet of the manager - and he will surely pay for that with his job when the season is over. But he's not the only one who should be leaving Celtic Park this summer. For the kind of advantage we found ourselves with four years ago to have blown up in our faces the way it did yesterday is nothing less than a complete failure of management at an executive level. It is a disgrace, and in any other industry heads would be rolling right now.
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Neil McCallum
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18 Apr 2016, 05:54 PM
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the silence from the cowards in the boardroom is as predicable as it is shameful. You can picture them sitting there with their "we know best" attitudes smug in the knowledge that all the "fuss" will soon blow over - God help us all if we allow that to happen.
The clamour for a quality new manager grows by the hour but for the life of me I really can't see this board plucking a Moyes from the footballing ranks of the unemployed and then giving him a budget he would be more than happy with. It really is not what they do, not what they believe in nor is there likely to be the funds available to finance it unless they borrow at a level which for them is previously unheard of. I can't see this lot even remotely going down that particular road.
That is why we need them all gone, from the Absentee Landlord down - they have nothing left to offer and no desire to change it. They are more than happy with the pap being served up as long as the league keeps getting won.
We have a bloated squad full of dross which is leaching away our scant resources, it will be a massive job to overhaul it & set up an effective cull. I fear that when they finally get round to emptying RD we will be presented with another diddy as the new manager who will continue to have any sellable "asset" sold from out under him, I include the likes of young Tierney in this scenario. I simply cannot see the current mob doing anything else but more of the same. It is all they know.
We, as a support, have to find a collective & effective way to get this mob out lock stock & barrel & hope we can find some fresh investment.
It's a big ask.
Agreed. In my opinion we've lost our soul in the boardroom. Looking at the board, my opinion of them just now is: Ian P. Bankier (63) Unionist businessman who backed the Tories during recent campaigns. Thomas E. Allison (67) Unionist who advised Tories during referendum. Dermot F. Desmond (65) absentee bawbag. Peter T. Lawwell (56), Moneybags bawbag more interested in his bonus than what goes on on the park.. Lord Livingston of Parkhead (51) Unionist Baron Tory effer who shouldn't ever have been allowed near our board Christopher McKay (40) - no idea about him other than he trained with one of the big four accountancy firms that ensure tax can be avoided by the rich. Brian Wilson (66) Unionist bawbag. Sorry for the strong language but it could have been worse. I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out! See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45% Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too? CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion. The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs?
Obviously what we need in the boardroom is Kenny "Great Atmosphere At The Game" MacArsehole and Nicola OBF Stalingeon.
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Mubo Loravcik
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18 Apr 2016, 05:55 PM
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The position that we're in today would have been unthinkable back in 2012. Our main - and only - rivals are liquidated, deid, giving us a gimme at three league titles (four-in-a-row) and a free shot at the Champions League qualifiers and the potential windfall they offer. It's not unreasonable to think that we should be collecting at least one of the other domestic trophies, every season, during this time while maybe using the breathing space of a relatively uncompetitive league to blood a good few young players whilst developing a team off the back of that (potential) Champions League cash which can dominate on and off the park when the zombie incarnation across the city inevitably arrives in the Premier League. Of course, they implode under the management of the fat gardener and Charles Green and we're given a stroll to another league title and another crack at the Champions League. Four years without having to look over our shoulders and worry about what a strong contender is doing. Four years to develop a football team and a strategy which should see us dominate even if Sevco are semi-competent when they reach the top league. And what do we do? We start selling our best players to effing Norwich and Southampton. There's nothing unusual in the odd top player leaving Celtic over the years, but every effing season? Of course, we fail to replace them and begin spunking cash on SPL diddies and Pukki's and Boerrigter's. We replace a rookie - yet successful - manager with a rookie project who has know effing idea of the pressure at a club like Celtic. And we expect that he's going to be able to guide a squad of SPL diddies into the Champions League. Which invariably he doesn't. Meanwhile across the city the zombies have stopped pissing around with dross like McCoist and McCall, gotten rid of the overpaid has-beens and employed a fairly competent manager who has a young, hungry team playing the style of football we were promised by our Norwegian pet project. It's important not to go overboard and remember that yesterday was just one game and that there are still a hell of a lot of problems at Sevco, but they are closer to us than many imagined. We'll be going into this summer with a new manager (  ) who will have a matter of weeks to rebuild before the Champions League qualifiers and put together a team who won't bottle it and suffer the same kind of embarrassment we did yesterday. We've developed one good (very good) player of our own in those four years and have an inflated squad filled, largely, with pure dross. What happens on the park, rightly, lies firmly at the feet of the manager - and he will surely pay for that with his job when the season is over. But he's not the only one who should be leaving Celtic Park this summer. For the kind of advantage we found ourselves with four years ago to have blown up in our faces the way it did yesterday is nothing less than a complete failure of management at an executive level. It is a disgrace, and in any other industry heads would be rolling right now. Bang on the money.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:58 PM
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Nicola Stalingeon may be the true nadir of crap patter.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:01 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Nicola Stalingeon may be the true nadir of crap patter. I'm no lover of the fair Nicola but you're right there.
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Neil McCallum
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18 Apr 2016, 06:01 PM
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Nicola Stalingeon may be the true nadir of crap patter. Or the true nadir of crap patter may be any of your outpourings.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:01 PM
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Nicola Stalingeon may be the true nadir of crap patter.
Or the true nadir of crap patter may be any of your outpourings. Oh my. Cut to the quick.
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Neil McCallum
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18 Apr 2016, 06:03 PM
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Nicola Stalingeon may be the true nadir of crap patter.
Or the true nadir of crap patter may be any of your outpourings.
Oh my. Cut to the quick. QED
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18 Apr 2016, 06:03 PM
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Oh my. Cut to the quick.
QED FUD
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18 Apr 2016, 06:04 PM
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QED
FUD Indeed you are.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:05 PM
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the silence from the cowards in the boardroom is as predicable as it is shameful. You can picture them sitting there with their "we know best" attitudes smug in the knowledge that all the "fuss" will soon blow over - God help us all if we allow that to happen.
The clamour for a quality new manager grows by the hour but for the life of me I really can't see this board plucking a Moyes from the footballing ranks of the unemployed and then giving him a budget he would be more than happy with. It really is not what they do, not what they believe in nor is there likely to be the funds available to finance it unless they borrow at a level which for them is previously unheard of. I can't see this lot even remotely going down that particular road.
That is why we need them all gone, from the Absentee Landlord down - they have nothing left to offer and no desire to change it. They are more than happy with the pap being served up as long as the league keeps getting won.
We have a bloated squad full of dross which is leaching away our scant resources, it will be a massive job to overhaul it & set up an effective cull. I fear that when they finally get round to emptying RD we will be presented with another diddy as the new manager who will continue to have any sellable "asset" sold from out under him, I include the likes of young Tierney in this scenario. I simply cannot see the current mob doing anything else but more of the same. It is all they know.
We, as a support, have to find a collective & effective way to get this mob out lock stock & barrel & hope we can find some fresh investment.
It's a big ask.
Agreed. In my opinion we've lost our soul in the boardroom. Looking at the board, my opinion of them just now is: Ian P. Bankier (63) Unionist businessman who backed the Tories during recent campaigns. Thomas E. Allison (67) Unionist who advised Tories during referendum. Dermot F. Desmond (65) absentee bawbag. Peter T. Lawwell (56), Moneybags bawbag more interested in his bonus than what goes on on the park.. Lord Livingston of Parkhead (51) Unionist Baron Tory effer who shouldn't ever have been allowed near our board Christopher McKay (40) - no idea about him other than he trained with one of the big four accountancy firms that ensure tax can be avoided by the rich. Brian Wilson (66) Unionist bawbag. Sorry for the strong language but it could have been worse. I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out! See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45% Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too? CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion. The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs? If you know yer history and all that.
Celtic is definitely more than about football. Maybe not to you, and I don't say that to demean you or say you're not fan, but Celtic means a lot, lot more than just football to many people and you can't tell them otherwise.
The ideology of the board is what's putting/put the city, and Celtic park's immediate surroundings into sickening levels of poverty. They don't care, but Brother Walfrid did. We need higher standards.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:05 PM
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FUD
Indeed you are. I can't compete with you. Top bantz.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:05 PM
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Indeed you are.
I can't compete with you. Top bantz. Thank you.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:09 PM
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A spray tanned Furby, eating KFC and screaming at a Gold Star family
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I can't compete with you. Top bantz.
Thank you. A real, sharp intellectual super heavyweight bout and the lucky readers of KDS have front row seats.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:10 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Thank you.
A real, sharp intellectual super heavyweight bout and the lucky readers of KDS have front row seats.  Well, it's better than watching Celtic the now isn't it?
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18 Apr 2016, 06:18 PM
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I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out! See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45% Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too? CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion. The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs?
If you know yer history and all that. Celtic is definitely more than about football. Maybe not to you, and I don't say that to demean you or say you're not fan, but Celtic means a lot, lot more than just football to many people and you can't tell them otherwise. The ideology of the board is what's putting/put the city, and Celtic park's immediate surroundings into sickening levels of poverty. They don't care, but Brother Walfrid did. We need higher standards. Both the Union and the Monarchy can piss off.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:25 PM
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He twists, he turns, Tommy Burns...
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What about Res 12? Any progress on that front?
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18 Apr 2016, 06:29 PM
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What about Res 12? Any progress on that front?
Progress is the word, it's been a long time since we done anything positive.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:31 PM
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I actually don't think we're in too bad of a state. Despite their obvious failings we've got a collection of players with individual talent. The current diddy in charge clearly can't get the best out of them, but the next guy might. We've seen most of this squad play better than they are right now. Deila's a bit of a Jonah, if someone inspiring replaces him then who knows.
I disagree. I've not seen a majority of a team in such a big derby game so spineless, so lacking in bottle and so easily beaten. Majority of guys haven't got the heart and should be punted, along with the manager and most of the board.
Maybe, I've got hope for some of them. Mind we got pumped 4-0 at Ibrox in final OF game of the Barnes season, then went on to smash them in the first one the next season. Different times and money was a factor but I'm clinging to the belief this squad are playing within themselves. I'm not happy clapping here, the club needs gutted of some of the imposters stealing a wage. But guys like Tierney make me think we're not totally up shampoo creek. We're not far off it either right enough. I'm hopeful too. Despite the gutless performances I don't think we have a bad squad. Just one that lacks real leadership.
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18 Apr 2016, 06:32 PM
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Maybe, I've got hope for some of them. Mind we got pumped 4-0 at Ibrox in final OF game of the Barnes season, then went on to smash them in the first one the next season. Different times and money was a factor but I'm clinging to the belief this squad are playing within themselves. I'm not happy clapping here, the club needs gutted of some of the imposters stealing a wage. But guys like Tierney make me think we're not totally up shampoo creek. We're not far off it either right enough.
I'm hopeful too. Despite the gutless performances I don't think we have a bad squad. Just one that lacks real leadership. Leadership that starts with the manager; who you're never been shy to back.
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