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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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18 Apr 2016, 04:54 PM
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I actually don't think we're in too bad of a state. Despite their obvious failings we've got a collection of players with individual talent. The current diddy in charge clearly can't get the best out of them, but the next guy might. We've seen most of this squad play better than they are right now. Deila's a bit of a Jonah, if someone inspiring replaces him then who knows.
I disagree. I've not seen a majority of a team in such a big derby game so spineless, so lacking in bottle and so easily beaten. Majority of guys haven't got the heart and should be punted, along with the manager and most of the board. Maybe, I've got hope for some of them. Mind we got pumped 4-0 at Ibrox in final OF game of the Barnes season, then went on to smash them in the first one the next season. Different times and money was a factor but I'm clinging to the belief this squad are playing within themselves.
I'm not happy clapping here, the club needs gutted of some of the imposters stealing a wage. But guys like Tierney make me think we're not totally up shampoo creek. We're not far off it either right enough.
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18 Apr 2016, 04:58 PM
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I actually don't think we're in too bad of a state. Despite their obvious failings we've got a collection of players with individual talent. The current diddy in charge clearly can't get the best out of them, but the next guy might. We've seen most of this squad play better than they are right now. Deila's a bit of a Jonah, if someone inspiring replaces him then who knows.
I disagree. I've not seen a majority of a team in such a big derby game so spineless, so lacking in bottle and so easily beaten. Majority of guys haven't got the heart and should be punted, along with the manager and most of the board.
Maybe, I've got hope for some of them. Mind we got pumped 4-0 at Ibrox in final OF game of the Barnes season, then went on to smash them in the first one the next season. Different times and money was a factor but I'm clinging to the belief this squad are playing within themselves. I'm not happy clapping here, the club needs gutted of some of the imposters stealing a wage. But guys like Tierney make me think we're not totally up shampoo creek. We're not far off it either right enough. I hope you're right as whoever comes in has a monumental job on their hands, so transforming some of the underachievers into decent squad players would be a big help, and save the board some cash. Always their most important factor.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:02 PM
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Was he ? We got a manager Strachan on the back of a recommendation by Eddie Jordan. Yes he signed JVoH and Gravesen (and I am NOT criticising him for the latter - we were all overjoyed at that signing) But the shirt and sponsorship deal that were much trumpeted were more hype than actually that brilliant. It started to go wrong in the summer of 2008 when a disastrous transfer window ended up in us not strengthening when we could have buried Rangers a lot sooner than them falling apart. Then came January 2009 and Stephen Fletcher. He cocked up the appointment of Owen Coyle and we ended up with Mowbray. After that mess came Lenny. After a very difficult 18 months, things got turned around but we then had to endure countless transfer window misery as "Moneyball Lawwell" thought that he could sign a couple of Wanyama's every window. We walked away from Markus Henriksen over a couple of hundred grand (they wanted £1.75M for 20 yr old Norwegian international) and he is likely to leave AZ67 for £5M to Italy this summer - would be more if he wasn't going into the last year of his contract. Such negotiations are just symptomatic of his reign. look at money we have pi$$ed away on strikers.
Yes he did. He came in and got us some direction again. Stood up for us when we were under a lot of pressure from the SFA and SPL. Aye he made some mistakes, he wasnt perfect but after the idiots before him he was a breath of fresh air. When did he stand up for us vis a vis the SFA ?
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18 Apr 2016, 05:02 PM
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the silence from the cowards in the boardroom is as predicable as it is shameful. You can picture them sitting there with their "we know best" attitudes smug in the knowledge that all the "fuss" will soon blow over - God help us all if we allow that to happen.
The clamour for a quality new manager grows by the hour but for the life of me I really can't see this board plucking a Moyes from the footballing ranks of the unemployed and then giving him a budget he would be more than happy with. It really is not what they do, not what they believe in nor is there likely to be the funds available to finance it unless they borrow at a level which for them is previously unheard of. I can't see this lot even remotely going down that particular road.
That is why we need them all gone, from the Absentee Landlord down - they have nothing left to offer and no desire to change it. They are more than happy with the pap being served up as long as the league keeps getting won.
We have a bloated squad full of dross which is leaching away our scant resources, it will be a massive job to overhaul it & set up an effective cull. I fear that when they finally get round to emptying RD we will be presented with another diddy as the new manager who will continue to have any sellable "asset" sold from out under him, I include the likes of young Tierney in this scenario. I simply cannot see the current mob doing anything else but more of the same. It is all they know.
We, as a support, have to find a collective & effective way to get this mob out lock stock & barrel & hope we can find some fresh investment.
It's a big ask.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:09 PM
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The problem we have is the existence of an individual or group of Celtic minded people willing to buy out the current lot and invest in the future of the club. If not we are stuck with the current mob.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:09 PM
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Any manager takes on the job must demand that John Park gets to eff. I've wrote on this site before that the guy is a charlatan. He lives of his success with hibs and a few lucky signing for us but overall his recruitment is dross. The list of utter crap players that we have signed under his tenure is astonishing.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:12 PM
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the silence from the cowards in the boardroom is as predicable as it is shameful. You can picture them sitting there with their "we know best" attitudes smug in the knowledge that all the "fuss" will soon blow over - God help us all if we allow that to happen.
The clamour for a quality new manager grows by the hour but for the life of me I really can't see this board plucking a Moyes from the footballing ranks of the unemployed and then giving him a budget he would be more than happy with. It really is not what they do, not what they believe in nor is there likely to be the funds available to finance it unless they borrow at a level which for them is previously unheard of. I can't see this lot even remotely going down that particular road.
That is why we need them all gone, from the Absentee Landlord down - they have nothing left to offer and no desire to change it. They are more than happy with the pap being served up as long as the league keeps getting won.
We have a bloated squad full of dross which is leaching away our scant resources, it will be a massive job to overhaul it & set up an effective cull. I fear that when they finally get round to emptying RD we will be presented with another diddy as the new manager who will continue to have any sellable "asset" sold from out under him, I include the likes of young Tierney in this scenario. I simply cannot see the current mob doing anything else but more of the same. It is all they know.
We, as a support, have to find a collective & effective way to get this mob out lock stock & barrel & hope we can find some fresh investment.
It's a big ask. Agreed. In my opinion we've lost our soul in the boardroom. Looking at the board, my opinion of them just now is:
Ian P. Bankier (63) Unionist businessman who backed the Tories during recent campaigns.
Thomas E. Allison (67) Unionist who advised Tories during referendum.
Dermot F. Desmond (65) absentee bawbag.
Peter T. Lawwell (56), Moneybags bawbag more interested in his bonus than what goes on on the park..
Lord Livingston of Parkhead (51) Unionist Baron Tory effer who shouldn't ever have been allowed near our board
Christopher McKay (40) - no idea about him other than he trained with one of the big four accountancy firms that ensure tax can be avoided by the rich.
Brian Wilson (66) Unionist bawbag.
Sorry for the strong language but it could have been worse.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:24 PM
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the silence from the cowards in the boardroom is as predicable as it is shameful. You can picture them sitting there with their "we know best" attitudes smug in the knowledge that all the "fuss" will soon blow over - God help us all if we allow that to happen.
The clamour for a quality new manager grows by the hour but for the life of me I really can't see this board plucking a Moyes from the footballing ranks of the unemployed and then giving him a budget he would be more than happy with. It really is not what they do, not what they believe in nor is there likely to be the funds available to finance it unless they borrow at a level which for them is previously unheard of. I can't see this lot even remotely going down that particular road.
That is why we need them all gone, from the Absentee Landlord down - they have nothing left to offer and no desire to change it. They are more than happy with the pap being served up as long as the league keeps getting won.
We have a bloated squad full of dross which is leaching away our scant resources, it will be a massive job to overhaul it & set up an effective cull. I fear that when they finally get round to emptying RD we will be presented with another diddy as the new manager who will continue to have any sellable "asset" sold from out under him, I include the likes of young Tierney in this scenario. I simply cannot see the current mob doing anything else but more of the same. It is all they know.
We, as a support, have to find a collective & effective way to get this mob out lock stock & barrel & hope we can find some fresh investment.
It's a big ask.
Agreed. In my opinion we've lost our soul in the boardroom. Looking at the board, my opinion of them just now is: Ian P. Bankier (63) Unionist businessman who backed the Tories during recent campaigns. Thomas E. Allison (67) Unionist who advised Tories during referendum. Dermot F. Desmond (65) absentee bawbag. Peter T. Lawwell (56), Moneybags bawbag more interested in his bonus than what goes on on the park.. Lord Livingston of Parkhead (51) Unionist Baron Tory effer who shouldn't ever have been allowed near our board Christopher McKay (40) - no idea about him other than he trained with one of the big four accountancy firms that ensure tax can be avoided by the rich. Brian Wilson (66) Unionist bawbag. Sorry for the strong language but it could have been worse.
I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out!
See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine
Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45%
Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too?
CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion.
The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them
CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs?
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18 Apr 2016, 05:30 PM
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the silence from the cowards in the boardroom is as predicable as it is shameful. You can picture them sitting there with their "we know best" attitudes smug in the knowledge that all the "fuss" will soon blow over - God help us all if we allow that to happen.
The clamour for a quality new manager grows by the hour but for the life of me I really can't see this board plucking a Moyes from the footballing ranks of the unemployed and then giving him a budget he would be more than happy with. It really is not what they do, not what they believe in nor is there likely to be the funds available to finance it unless they borrow at a level which for them is previously unheard of. I can't see this lot even remotely going down that particular road.
That is why we need them all gone, from the Absentee Landlord down - they have nothing left to offer and no desire to change it. They are more than happy with the pap being served up as long as the league keeps getting won.
We have a bloated squad full of dross which is leaching away our scant resources, it will be a massive job to overhaul it & set up an effective cull. I fear that when they finally get round to emptying RD we will be presented with another diddy as the new manager who will continue to have any sellable "asset" sold from out under him, I include the likes of young Tierney in this scenario. I simply cannot see the current mob doing anything else but more of the same. It is all they know.
We, as a support, have to find a collective & effective way to get this mob out lock stock & barrel & hope we can find some fresh investment.
It's a big ask.
Agreed. In my opinion we've lost our soul in the boardroom. Looking at the board, my opinion of them just now is: Ian P. Bankier (63) Unionist businessman who backed the Tories during recent campaigns. Thomas E. Allison (67) Unionist who advised Tories during referendum. Dermot F. Desmond (65) absentee bawbag. Peter T. Lawwell (56), Moneybags bawbag more interested in his bonus than what goes on on the park.. Lord Livingston of Parkhead (51) Unionist Baron Tory effer who shouldn't ever have been allowed near our board Christopher McKay (40) - no idea about him other than he trained with one of the big four accountancy firms that ensure tax can be avoided by the rich. Brian Wilson (66) Unionist bawbag. Sorry for the strong language but it could have been worse. I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out! See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45% Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too? CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion. The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs? The board have many failings and their politics isn't one?
Is that right?
So a club founded to educate and fed children and the unemployed having a Tory peer on its board isn't a failing? Whilst the Tories dismantle the welfare state and cause untold harm to the poor, the sick and the disabled?
I guess I'm just part of the racist campaign our chairman was talking about though.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:32 PM
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I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out! See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45% Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too? CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion. The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs?
The board have many failings and their politics isn't one? Is that right? So a club founded to educate and fed children and the unemployed having a Tory peer on its board isn't a failing? Whilst the Tories dismantle the welfare state and cause untold harm to the poor, the sick and the disabled? I guess I'm just part of the racist campaign our chairman was talking about though. Grow up, that club disappeared about 1898
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18 Apr 2016, 05:32 PM
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The great experiment that has been the past 4 years has failed. A baffling signing policy has seen us sign the greatest collection of diddies since last years Playboy calendar, a manager who's plans B and C are to continue with plan A with baffling substitutions week after week scraping points off the likes of Kilmarnock and Motherwell, a captain who's position with the club is now as secure as the boardroom table with his work at youth level regardless of how he performs on a weekly basis. It's a fecking shambles - IF we win the league this season that's is half way to 10, we can not allow the board to feck this up
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18 Apr 2016, 05:34 PM
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the silence from the cowards in the boardroom is as predicable as it is shameful. You can picture them sitting there with their "we know best" attitudes smug in the knowledge that all the "fuss" will soon blow over - God help us all if we allow that to happen.
The clamour for a quality new manager grows by the hour but for the life of me I really can't see this board plucking a Moyes from the footballing ranks of the unemployed and then giving him a budget he would be more than happy with. It really is not what they do, not what they believe in nor is there likely to be the funds available to finance it unless they borrow at a level which for them is previously unheard of. I can't see this lot even remotely going down that particular road.
That is why we need them all gone, from the Absentee Landlord down - they have nothing left to offer and no desire to change it. They are more than happy with the pap being served up as long as the league keeps getting won.
We have a bloated squad full of dross which is leaching away our scant resources, it will be a massive job to overhaul it & set up an effective cull. I fear that when they finally get round to emptying RD we will be presented with another diddy as the new manager who will continue to have any sellable "asset" sold from out under him, I include the likes of young Tierney in this scenario. I simply cannot see the current mob doing anything else but more of the same. It is all they know.
We, as a support, have to find a collective & effective way to get this mob out lock stock & barrel & hope we can find some fresh investment.
It's a big ask.
Agreed. In my opinion we've lost our soul in the boardroom. Looking at the board, my opinion of them just now is: Ian P. Bankier (63) Unionist businessman who backed the Tories during recent campaigns. Thomas E. Allison (67) Unionist who advised Tories during referendum. Dermot F. Desmond (65) absentee bawbag. Peter T. Lawwell (56), Moneybags bawbag more interested in his bonus than what goes on on the park.. Lord Livingston of Parkhead (51) Unionist Baron Tory effer who shouldn't ever have been allowed near our board Christopher McKay (40) - no idea about him other than he trained with one of the big four accountancy firms that ensure tax can be avoided by the rich. Brian Wilson (66) Unionist bawbag. Sorry for the strong language but it could have been worse. If you think the Celtic board, or the board of any other major football club, will never not consist of mainly successful businessmen with conservative-leaning views you're living in a fantasy world. Our board, collectively, has been useless. But it's got nothing to do with their backgrounds or political views.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:35 PM
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The board have many failings and their politics isn't one? Is that right? So a club founded to educate and fed children and the unemployed having a Tory peer on its board isn't a failing? Whilst the Tories dismantle the welfare state and cause untold harm to the poor, the sick and the disabled? I guess I'm just part of the racist campaign our chairman was talking about though.
Grow up, that club disappeared about 1898 Aye no bother.
I need to grow up for saying that a Tory bastard shouldn't be on our board and use Celtic's name when he's voting to put working people into poverty. Morals. Why bother?
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18 Apr 2016, 05:36 PM
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Under normal circumstances, the political beliefs of the board members would not be that big an issue.
Bob Kelly wasn't exactly a radical.
But I think it becomes an issue when it adds to the impression that the board and the fans are just on different wavelengths entirely. The fact that the board is stuffed with Tory Lords and well-known businessmen typifies how far the board is from the majority of the fans (not all of them). And when things are going badly, that just highlights it all.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:36 PM
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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I see that the Edinburgh schools are still out! See all this "unionist" crap - shove it where the sun don't shine Perhaps your maths is as poor as your English but the people of Scotland in a free and fair referendum voted 55 to 45% Willie Maley thought very highly of Queen Victoria - should he be erased from our history too? CFC is about football - anything else is simply your opinion. The board has many failings - their politics isn't one of them CFC open to all or only open to all who share your narrow beliefs?
The board have many failings and their politics isn't one? Is that right? So a club founded to educate and fed children and the unemployed having a Tory peer on its board isn't a failing? Whilst the Tories dismantle the welfare state and cause untold harm to the poor, the sick and the disabled? I guess I'm just part of the racist campaign our chairman was talking about though. I fail to see what an individual board members politics has got to do with their ability or otherwise to run a football club.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:37 PM
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The board have many failings and their politics isn't one? Is that right? So a club founded to educate and fed children and the unemployed having a Tory peer on its board isn't a failing? Whilst the Tories dismantle the welfare state and cause untold harm to the poor, the sick and the disabled? I guess I'm just part of the racist campaign our chairman was talking about though.
I fail to see what an individual board members politics has got to do with their ability or otherwise to run a football club. Ability isn't the same as suitability.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:40 PM
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Under normal circumstances, the political beliefs of the board members would not be that big an issue.
Bob Kelly wasn't exactly a radical.
But I think it becomes an issue when it adds to the impression that the board and the fans are just on different wavelengths entirely. The fact that the board is stuffed with Tory Lords and well-known businessmen typifies how far the board is from the majority of the fans (not all of them). And when things are going badly, that just highlights it all. Isn't that more so for the players?
Most of the guys in the first team on around £300,000 grand a year an up.
They've no concept of the ordinary punter and haven't for years. Most of them don't care fans have to scrimp and save to go to games. Yesterday's attitude sums that up.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:44 PM
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Under normal circumstances, the political beliefs of the board members would not be that big an issue.
Bob Kelly wasn't exactly a radical.
But I think it becomes an issue when it adds to the impression that the board and the fans are just on different wavelengths entirely. The fact that the board is stuffed with Tory Lords and well-known businessmen typifies how far the board is from the majority of the fans (not all of them). And when things are going badly, that just highlights it all.
Isn't that more so for the players? Most of the guys in the first team on around £300,000 grand a year an up. They've no concept of the ordinary punter and haven't for years. Most of them don't care fans have to scrimp and save to go to games. Yesterday's attitude sums that up. Probably doesn't help but Lennon and Larsson were on much more than any of these players. They knew what it meant.
The difference is that we have a coach and a management structure at the club that breeds mediocrity and complacency. This feeds down into the players.
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18 Apr 2016, 05:44 PM
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- Quiet Assasin
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- jbj712
- 18 Apr 2016, 05:32 PM
- Quiet Assasin
- 18 Apr 2016, 05:30 PM
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Grow up, that club disappeared about 1898
Aye no bother. I need to grow up for saying that a Tory bastard shouldn't be on our board and use Celtic's name when he's voting to put working people into poverty. Morals. Why bother? I apologise for sounding too flippant about your sincerely held political beliefs, most of which I would probably share with you. I have no time for Tories or their policies, however CFC is not about politics, it should be about the football. The board have been woeful and allowed PL far too much leeway in running the club, especially on the football side of things. However I don't care if they vote Tory, SNP or nothing - that's their business. Same as with players - I don't care if someone was brought up as a RFC fan and twirled the baton in the walk, as long as once the game started they gave 100%!
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18 Apr 2016, 05:52 PM
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- jbj712
- 18 Apr 2016, 05:44 PM
- Quiet Assasin
- 18 Apr 2016, 05:35 PM
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- 18 Apr 2016, 05:32 PM
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Aye no bother. I need to grow up for saying that a Tory bastard shouldn't be on our board and use Celtic's name when he's voting to put working people into poverty. Morals. Why bother?
I apologise for sounding too flippant about your sincerely held political beliefs, most of which I would probably share with you. I have no time for Tories or their policies, however CFC is not about politics, it should be about the football. The board have been woeful and allowed PL far too much leeway in running the club, especially on the football side of things. However I don't care if they vote Tory, SNP or nothing - that's their business. Same as with players - I don't care if someone was brought up as a RFC fan and twirled the baton in the walk, as long as once the game started they gave 100%! I couldn't care less what way they use their personal vote.
If someone is actually active in a Government which is doing its best to destroy communities like the one which fostered Celtic, I don't think they should be on our board and I don't think they should be using the Celtic name when they're doing it. And all the time telling you to leave your own politics at the door.
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