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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,684 Views)
remy mcswain
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When shouty man on the mic reads out the team on Sunday I fear for the big when he gets to "and the Celtic manager..."
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The most annoying thing about yesterday was that I don't even get that pissed off any more when we turn in performances/results like that.

I was so angry when Rogic missed that penalty(not at him) at the result and the performance. I walked out the house, took the dog for a pish, walked round the block and returned. I sat down and laughed out loud at the thought of another embarrassing result under this imposter. I just sat there thinking, what will change?

This time in a few months time we will be sitting here discussing the same stuff because we have failed to invest and failed to beat some no mark team to get the CL.
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station
18 Apr 2016, 09:42 AM
I suggested a few weeks back to get up and leave at a certain time of the game , just get up and leave . Silent protest.
It's a good one but I suggest you start a blog or initiate a poll/petition to make it happen.
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remy mcswain
18 Apr 2016, 09:45 AM
When shouty man on the mic reads out the team on Sunday I fear for the big when he gets to "and the Celtic manager..."
He annoys me! Much prefer the announcer we had before. Was it Tony Hamilton?
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BlackpoolBhoy
18 Apr 2016, 09:48 AM
remy mcswain
18 Apr 2016, 09:45 AM
When shouty man on the mic reads out the team on Sunday I fear for the big when he gets to "and the Celtic manager..."
He annoys me! Much prefer the announcer we had before. Was it Tony Hamilton?
Not sure of his name but it wasn't Tony Hamilton
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Neil McCallum
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Desmond has shown he is a coward who wants just enough of a shareholding to give him control but just under the amount that would force him to take responsibility.

He needs to crap or get off the pot.
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18 Apr 2016, 09:49 AM
BlackpoolBhoy
18 Apr 2016, 09:48 AM
remy mcswain
18 Apr 2016, 09:45 AM
When shouty man on the mic reads out the team on Sunday I fear for the big when he gets to "and the Celtic manager..."
He annoys me! Much prefer the announcer we had before. Was it Tony Hamilton?
Not sure of his name but it wasn't Tony Hamilton
It was definitely a Tony, not sure of his second name. Much preferred him, the new guy shouts too much.
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leangreen
18 Apr 2016, 09:46 AM
station
18 Apr 2016, 09:42 AM
I suggested a few weeks back to get up and leave at a certain time of the game , just get up and leave . Silent protest.
It's a good one but I suggest you start a blog or initiate a poll/petition to make it happen.
I don't think belgrano would be to happy. And I wonder what remy would say.
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ronny_is_not_da_man
18 Apr 2016, 09:36 AM
How the eff did we get to a position like this. The board are supposed to be expert businessmen. Any effing idiot knows if we have a successful team on the park we would be making money hand over fist. It isn't effing rocket science :ffs:
They are not successful businessmen - they have been hand pick by DD based on business contacts and networking that is beneficial to his other business interests.

I have no doubt most are probably Celtic fans but they have been given baubles to keep them sweet - very few are there based on merit or ability.

They are there for window dressing and to allow Lawwell to do as he pleases whilst filling his pockets as the stadium empties, the team collapses and the fans become more and more detached from the club.

They just don't give a eff - none of them.
Edited by Marado, 18 Apr 2016, 09:59 AM.
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BlackpoolBhoy
18 Apr 2016, 09:54 AM
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18 Apr 2016, 09:49 AM
BlackpoolBhoy
18 Apr 2016, 09:48 AM

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Not sure of his name but it wasn't Tony Hamilton
It was definitely a Tony, not sure of his second name. Much preferred him, the new guy shouts too much.
It was Tony Hamiltons brother Michael.
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I find myself torn in two directions wrt the board.We' have faced both the Sevco scandal & the biggest financial crisis most of us have seen in our lifetime and,by & large,the board have brought the club through this period with not to much damage,in the sense of running the business.Anyone who thinks that is not important only need to look at Hearts,Yesterdays opponents & now probably Dundee United to see what could have happened.
But that's the business side.
From a football angle,we have been in decline for quite a while.We have actually spent quite a lot,by scottish terms but the quality of player leaves much to be desired.Whoever thought that Carlton Cole,Amido Balde & the like were suitable should have been hunted long ago.It has also been apparent for some time that the current "experiment" was not working.I like Ronny,but he can't handle this job & I personnally think Collins is an arrogant swine who should never have been allowed anywhere near Celtic Park.Tactics are one dimensional,easy to play against and torture to watch.The board should have sussed this long ago but when you have the likes of Bankier as chairman(the man who called CFC supporters racist) and others who treat the fans,shareholders(see Res 12) with contempt then something must change.
A change of Manager right now would give the fans a sign that the board are onside with them,acknowledge we have a problem and be seen to be doing something about it.I am not holding my breath.
Edited by johnbhoy1958, 18 Apr 2016, 10:03 AM.
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18 Apr 2016, 09:44 AM
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18 Apr 2016, 12:49 AM
Wonder if Desmond who was at the game was embarrassed by that performance , i have never in almost 50 years of watching Celtic, heard the team booed off at half time in a game against rangers .
says it all really .
It was reported that the bold Desmond disappeared at half time to the sanctuary of his hospitality suite and never returned to his seat.
If that's true (and it sounds plausible) it tells you everything you need to know about that gombeen-shyster.
Somebody should hire the IRA (independent rasta association) to go rumble the bastard up in his Bajan sunlounger :ph43r:
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Mackin
18 Apr 2016, 09:57 AM
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18 Apr 2016, 09:54 AM
Still Game
18 Apr 2016, 09:49 AM

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It was definitely a Tony, not sure of his second name. Much preferred him, the new guy shouts too much.
It was Tony Hamiltons brother Michael.
is correct. :thumbsup:
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18 Apr 2016, 09:56 AM
ronny_is_not_da_man
18 Apr 2016, 09:36 AM
How the eff did we get to a position like this. The board are supposed to be expert businessmen. Any effing idiot knows if we have a successful team on the park we would be making money hand over fist. It isn't effing rocket science :ffs:
They are not successful businessmen - they have been hand pick by DD based on business contacts and networking that is beneficial to his other business interests.

I have no doubt most are probably Celtic fans but they have been given baubles to keep them sweet - very few are there based on merit or ability.

They are there for window dressing and to allow Lawwell to do as he pleases whilst filling his pockets as the stadium empties, the team collapses and the fans become more and more detached from the club.

They just don't give a eff - none of them.
There are about 4 or 5 accountants on the board, along with the man who rubber-stamps the obscene salary of Lawwell, and the absentee cowardly controller.

A recipe for disaster in a footballing sense, while no doubt good for balancing the books on an ever-shrinking turnover.
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Gross negligence - to have taken this opportunity and squandered it so badly - the should all be removed by the shareholders they are supposed to act on behalf of

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Ned Rise
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Don't think there's any doubt that the club has been mismanaged by the board, letting slip an incredible opportunity through reckless gambling.

Yesterday's result has been a long time coming. It might be shocking, but it's not really surprising. We have consistently failed against teams that we should beat. The surprising thing is the amount of unwavering confidence going into yesterday's match. I said at the time of the draw that Deila should be gone way before this match even took place. Such is the way of football fans though, thinking with my heart and not my head also led me to the contradictory belief that Celtic would win by a couple of goals. A fool and his money are easy parted.

Football being the game it is, any team can win on any given day against supposedly better opposition. Celtic have been the underdogs for much of our history, yet we have overcome the odds to achieve great success. The question then is why it shouldn't be possible for Rangers in a one-off game or Aberdeen in the next five to do a similar thing. We owe the manager nothing. We didn't owe him 'a double' before he sailed off into the neverending Norwegian sunset, with a 'can't believe I got away with it' smile on his face and healthy pay off. Similarly, we don't owe him a farewell title party. It's this kind of complacency that in part led to yesterday's result.

That's aside from watching a team which has no discernible style, or shape to their play. I don't see a team at work and haven't for a long time. The notion that we're a high-tempo, fast-passing, high-pressing team can be destroyed by people like myself who have limited tactical awareness: We do not play at a high tempo; Our passing and movement is laboured and erratic into the bargain; We do not press teams any more noticeably than any other team in the league. Aside from the results, the fundamentals have been utterly lacking, not just in the games that have cost us trophies, qualification and tens of millions of pounds, but in the rest of the time, where the attendances have been falling through the floor.

Deila was an experiment that went wrong. It was evident that he didn't have what it took from the word go. This time last year, I did think that my initial assessment was incorrect, but it was again clear after Malmo that he should have been booted out. We would have been spared the inept attempts in the Europa League, the close-run league race, and yesterday's dismal defeat.

It's unforgivable that this has been allowed to rumble on for two years. It's worse to think that this is part of a policy of managing lowered expectations that has gone on for far longer. Celtic hasn't operated as a club that has wanted to build a football team for years now. It's all about the money and while it's obviously a difficult place to operate, continually gambling on cheap duds and your luck will run out sometime. If we're supposed to be built on the Ajax template, it evidently doesn't work for us. Maybe that's why we're now signing the likes of CKR and Calton Cole, because we've just thrown in the towel on the 'model'.

The board needs a shake up in the summer. Lawwell has got fat as the club has got thin. Right now though, Deila has to go before he causes one last catastrophe, which would a far more humiliating experience than yesterday's result. If we end up going into the Aberdeen match as a must-win game, then we will lose that match. We can't take the chance. Put it another way, Hibs would probably have beaten us yesterday too, and wouldn't have needed the penalties.

As for Sevco, yes, they'll be rubbing it in, and they're entitled to. But while yesterday was a dark day and should signal major changes at the club, that happens from time to time at every club. They, however, have suffered four years of utter humiliation on a scale incomparable to what Celtic went through yesterday. They were liquidated, had the Mob using their zombie shell as a money laundering operation, reneged on all of their bills, relied on dodgy penalties to draw with the might of Albion Rovers at Ibrox, developed 'rivalries' with teams full of butchers and traffic wardens, and won trophies so tinpot that most professional clubs in the league aren't allowed to compete in them. Let them laugh, because anyone can win a game of football against the odds, but we can't all get into a frenzy about a chance to put Alloa Athletic in their place.
Edited by Ned Rise, 18 Apr 2016, 10:22 AM.
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18 Apr 2016, 10:12 AM
Gross negligence - to have taken this opportunity and squandered it so badly - the should all be removed by the shareholders they are supposed to act on behalf of

I agree with you but they have done what they want. Wait it out till rangers get back. The thing is, as much as we hoped that wouldn't happen we knew deep down that it would.
We've been coughing up the cash to keep them, its time to stop.
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Ned Rise
18 Apr 2016, 10:18 AM
Don't think there's any doubt that the club has been mismanaged by the board, letting slip an incredible opportunity through reckless gambling.

Yesterday's result has been a long time coming. It might be shocking, but it's not really surprising. We have consistently failed against teams that we should beat. The surprising thing is the amount of unwavering confidence going into yesterday's match. I said at the time of the draw that Deila should be gone way before this match even took place. Such is the way of football fans though, thinking with my heart and not my head also led me to the contradictory belief that Celtic would win by a couple of goals. A fool and his money are easy parted.

Football being the game it is, any team can win on any given day against supposedly better opposition. Celtic have been the underdogs for much of our history, yet we have overcome the odds to achieve great success. The question then is why it shouldn't be possible for Rangers in a one-off game or Aberdeen in the next five to do a similar thing. We owe the manager nothing. We didn't owe him 'a double' before he sailed off into the neverending Norwegian sunset, with a 'can't believe I got away with it' smile on his face and healthy pay off. Similarly, we don't owe him a farewell title party. It's this kind of complacency that in part led to yesterday's result.

That's aside from watching a team which has no discernible style, or shape to their play. I don't see a team at work and haven't for a long time. The notion that we're a high-tempo, fast-passing, high-pressing team can be destroyed by people like myself who have limited tactical awareness: We do not play at a high tempo; Our passing and movement is laboured and erratic into the bargain; We do not press teams any more noticeably than any other team in the league. Aside from the results, the fundamentals have been utterly lacking, not just in the games that have cost us trophies, qualification and tens of millions of pounds, but in the rest of the time, where the attendances have been falling through the floor.

Deila was an experiment that went wrong. It was evident that he didn't have what it took from the word go. This time last year, I did think that my initial assessment was incorrect, but it was again clear after Malmo that he should have been booted out. We would have been spared the inept attempts in the Europa League, the close-run league race, and yesterday's dismal defeat.

It's unforgivable that this has been allowed to rumble on for two years. It's worse to think that this is part of a policy of managing lowered expectations that has gone on for far longer. Celtic hasn't operated as a club that has wanted to build a football team for years now. It's all about the money and while it's obviously a difficult place to operate, continually gambling on cheap duds and your luck will run out sometime. If we're supposed to be built on the Ajax template, it evidently doesn't work for us. Maybe that's why we're now signing the likes of CKR and Calton Cole, because we've just thrown in the towel on the 'model'.

The board needs a shake up in the summer. Lawwell has got fat as the club has got thin. Right now though, Deila has to go before he causes one last catastrophe, which would a far more humiliating experience than yesterday's result. If we end up going into the Aberdeen match as a must-win game, then we will lose that match. We can't take the chance. Put it another way, Hibs would probably have beaten us yesterday too, and wouldn't have needed the penalties.

As for Sevco, yes, they'll be rubbing it in, and they're entitled to. But while yesterday was a dark day and should signal major changes at the club, that happens from time to time at every club. They, however, have suffered four years of utter humiliation on a scale incomparable to what Celtic went through yesterday. They were liquidated, had the Mob using their zombie shell as a money laundering operation, reneged on all of their bills, relied on dodgy penalties to draw with the might of Albion Rovers at Ibrox, developed 'rivalries' with teams full of butchers and traffic wardens, and won trophies so tinpot that most professional clubs in the league aren't allowed to compete in them. Let them laugh, because anyone can win a game of football against the odds, but we can't all get into a frenzy about a chance to put Alloa Athletic in their place.
A fine post Ned :worthy:
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I would encourage my fellow supporter to think very long and hard about investing their hard earned into the club at the moment - be it souvenir key fobs, whatever.

Can we be agreed that we are just customers to 'the custodians'? If you are happy to give your money to 'the custodians', that you trust them to look after it and do what is right, then fair does.

I'll always love Celtic but I'm not going to have a straw inserted into my back and be drained dry of lifeforce.

These things go in cycles usually, dont they Pete - remind me where we are on that graph?
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Just woke up.

He still here?
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