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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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No point in shouting for the managers head ! Lawwell is totally responsible for this nightmare today. walk you self serving bonus grabbing charlatan .
No he effing isn't :ffs: He isn't responsible for our manager not being able to set up his team to beat a first division team. That's utter effing nonsense. He is responsible for hiring Deila but he can't be held responsible for our manager being a clueless effer.

He is also responsible for not wanting to admit he was wrong but the blame today is with Deila and only Deila.
Yeah well it goes back to who actually appointed him , surely to god there was better options out there than Ronnie Delia , surely a club of our size could have attracted a half decent manager .the blame lies totally with the board .
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Celtic Football club grabbed me as a 5 year old. Why? I don’t really know as all my close family were Rangers fans. Whatever the reason it became something special for me. I loved the club, the strip and the experiences. Going to Parkhead as a small boy was exciting, and even today on my rare trips through Glasgow I rarely take the M8, much preferring the long drive up London road, so that I can see this place that is so close to my heart.

As I got older I understood what this club was about. It was built out of charity, where everybody is equal and free to come in and become one of the family. I never saw any trouble and to be honest never really understood our role in this West of Scotland bigotry as I never saw or heard it. The people were friendly and I loved the fact that when we sang you’ll never walk alone some old fella gave you half his scarf to hold. It is a working man’s club, the peoples club where players and fans were one. In fact, some of the best players I saw were fans first and foremost. The stadium, today is fantastic, the ground around Celtic Park is wonderful to look at. I just love the place. I still get butterflies in the stomach when I attend a match.

Four years ago, Scottish football was placed into a position which most observers could not have seen coming. Rangers Fc had utilized a tax loop hole to pay players. This was being reviewed by the HMRC and the likelihood was a huge tax bill. The SFA and the rest of Scottish football had a difficult choice. However, there were only two real options. One to treat Rangers as every other club and acknowledge the club died after the refusal to agree a CVA, and lose the “old firm” sponsorship/investment in the Scottish game. The second was to create a falsehood of separating of club and company, where history could be maintained, but ask the new sevco club to be placed into the first division as a”punishment”. This kept the potential for the old firm money to be rekindled. Only for Turnbull Hutton to sort that oot.

Celtic Fc had the opportunity at this point to come out and state the outrage felt by the majority of fans who had spent hard earned money into a game for years that was rigged. They didn’t, they couldn’t as they required the old firm money also. However, Peter Lawwell needed to keep the fans onside so came out and stated Celtic did not need Rangers to maintain a separate business plan. This was later dismissed by the same man stating we were losing upwards of ten million per year.

Even with the resolution 12 fiasco the club are more interested in having the blue pound back. In fact I would suggest this may be more important than even having the green pound. It always has been about money to these guys. PL has been quoted as stating the reason for financial prudence at Celtic has been exampled by the Rangers’ disaster across the city. Hold on a minute you are already colluding in the idea that a club who is liquidated lives on Mr Lawwell, so why the need for any financial prudence. The worst is liquidation and a nice journey through the leagues.

These people running MY club and your club don’t have the same feelings we do. To them it is a job and a wage. The decision to place a manager with limited experience into this job shows the lack of feeling they have. I would respect the board more if they just told the truth. Listen guys we have limited funds and currently we are struggling money wise so we are going down this road. It’s a gamble and a risk. Don’t come out with statements like if a player is available for 8 million we can do this. Bullshampoo and lies. It’s called managing expectations and it’s not happened.

I don’t want these people at my club. Please go now, it’s been going on too long. We have no investment, no strategy, no thought and more importantly no drive. We need a new start, a new direction and people the fans can get behind who have Celtic football club in the heart. Football should be the only driver for our club, it never has and never will be about money. Thats why we are a different club to the rest.
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Serious question to your good self.

With the momentum that Sevco currently have and our lack of momentum, why do you think we'll probably win TIAR?

The brilliant strategy is underpinned by winning SPFL titles.

I don't see them being favourites next season but I neither do I feel confident that we're going to swat them away on the road to 6.
Because we are the best of a bad lot and have far more resources.

They rode their luck today but deserved to win for their hunger. That will not work over a season.



They created nothing (absolutely nothing) in 100 minutes bar a wonder strike.

If you had their team and resources would you expect to win the league soon? If so why.

Our board is directionless and have let us down badly. Even they though cannot make up for our competitors deficiencies.



I think you're falling into the same mindset as a lot of people at the club itself i.e. we think we're a lot better than we really are and we think they're a lot worse than they really are.

You say it wont work over a season but there are numerous examples of it doing just that when you get team cohesion, desire and usually opponents with bigger ego's than ability.

Leicester City (or even Spurs) will win the EPL this season. Chelsea, Man City, Man U and Arsenal would never have entertained that idea at the start of the season.
Atletico Madrid pipping Barca and Madrid a few seasons ago.
A decimated Celtic side in August 97 going onto win OIAR in 98 against a team that had strengthened an already strong squad.

Hunger and momentum are the biggest factors in sport (coupled with ability obviously). We don't seem to display much of the first 2 attributes this season and unless something radical happens before the start of next, I don't have much hope for TIAR certainly.
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frankebhoy
17 Apr 2016, 06:01 PM
ronny_is_not_da_man
17 Apr 2016, 05:34 PM
frankebhoy
17 Apr 2016, 05:29 PM
No point in shouting for the managers head ! Lawwell is totally responsible for this nightmare today. walk you self serving bonus grabbing charlatan .
No he effing isn't :ffs: He isn't responsible for our manager not being able to set up his team to beat a first division team. That's utter effing nonsense. He is responsible for hiring Deila but he can't be held responsible for our manager being a clueless effer.

He is also responsible for not wanting to admit he was wrong but the blame today is with Deila and only Deila.
Yeah well it goes back to who actually appointed him , surely to god there was better options out there than Ronnie Delia , surely a club of our size could have attracted a half decent manager .the blame lies totally with the board .
No it doesn't only partly does it. They picked the guy they thought would do a good job and he has failed miserably :comp: :comp: Go into RD thread and see why he's mainly responsible.
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It might not be peterhead, but a year ago this team lost 6 1 over 2 legs to motherwell. Celtic should have been as up for it as them, our players have plenty to prove too and this result shouldn't be tolerated in the slightest.
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Because we are the best of a bad lot and have far more resources.

They rode their luck today but deserved to win for their hunger. That will not work over a season.



They created nothing (absolutely nothing) in 100 minutes bar a wonder strike.

If you had their team and resources would you expect to win the league soon? If so why.

Our board is directionless and have let us down badly. Even they though cannot make up for our competitors deficiencies.



I think you're falling into the same mindset as a lot of people at the club itself i.e. we think we're a lot better than we really are and we think they're a lot worse than they really are.

You say it wont work over a season but there are numerous examples of it doing just that when you get team cohesion, desire and usually opponents with bigger ego's than ability.

Leicester City (or even Spurs) will win the EPL this season. Chelsea, Man City, Man U and Arsenal would never have entertained that idea at the start of the season.
Atletico Madrid pipping Barca and Madrid a few seasons ago.
A decimated Celtic side in August 97 going onto win OIAR in 98 against a team that had strengthened an already strong squad.

Hunger and momentum are the biggest factors in sport (coupled with ability obviously). We don't seem to display much of the first 2 attributes this season and unless something radical happens before the start of next, I don't have much hope for TIAR certainly.
Aberdeen are on our coattails and they have less money than Sevco.

Adam Smith picked his nom de plume well.
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The board should be absolutely ashamed at themselves. Again.

It's ridiculous to think of the state we are in currently. We had a real chance to build something great over the last 3 or so years and something with longevity. As is stands, we will have a new manager next year, we'll likely have a stack of new players as the current squad needs gutting and unless something radical is done soon, dwindling crowds. Not the way you'd envisage going for your 6th title in a row.

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If heads don't roll at boardroom level after this they never will. I'll be chucking it.
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17 Apr 2016, 05:34 PM

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Yeah well it goes back to who actually appointed him , surely to god there was better options out there than Ronnie Delia , surely a club of our size could have attracted a half decent manager .the blame lies totally with the board .
No it doesn't only partly does it. They picked the guy they thought would do a good job and he has failed miserably :comp: :comp: Go into RD thread and see why he's mainly responsible.
They picked the guy they thought would do a good job

That's the problem right there - they picked a project, a yes man, a punt, a chance - nothing more

They done this to preserve their own roles within their beloved "model"

RD should never have got near the main job here, no question about that & having become blatantly obvious that he wasn't up to the role once he got here he should have been punted, yet again PL & his ego got in the way.

The demise of our football team has Lawwells prints all over it, he has systematically downsized the playing pool since the huns died which resulted in his first project, a proper Celtic man, walking away from the club. The fact he then went for an even more pliant, cheaper individual in RD say's it all.

We are a joke, we will remain a joke until we chase Lawwell & the tory cabal out of our club.
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frankebhoy
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frankebhoy
17 Apr 2016, 05:29 PM
No point in shouting for the managers head ! Lawwell is totally responsible for this nightmare today. walk you self serving bonus grabbing charlatan .
No he effing isn't :ffs: He isn't responsible for our manager not being able to set up his team to beat a first division team. That's utter effing nonsense. He is responsible for hiring Deila but he can't be held responsible for our manager being a clueless effer.

He is also responsible for not wanting to admit he was wrong but the blame today is with Deila and only Deila.
Yeah well it goes back to who actually appointed him , surely to god there was better options out there than Ronnie Delia , surely a club of our size could have attracted a half decent manager .the blame lies totally with the board .
Not to work under Lawwell's system. i.e. you get feck all say in players, and if you're lucky enough to create a team from what you're given, it'll be sold from underneath you.
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Because we are the best of a bad lot and have far more resources.

They rode their luck today but deserved to win for their hunger. That will not work over a season.



They created nothing (absolutely nothing) in 100 minutes bar a wonder strike.

If you had their team and resources would you expect to win the league soon? If so why.

Our board is directionless and have let us down badly. Even they though cannot make up for our competitors deficiencies.



I think you're falling into the same mindset as a lot of people at the club itself i.e. we think we're a lot better than we really are and we think they're a lot worse than they really are.

You say it wont work over a season but there are numerous examples of it doing just that when you get team cohesion, desire and usually opponents with bigger ego's than ability.

Leicester City (or even Spurs) will win the EPL this season. Chelsea, Man City, Man U and Arsenal would never have entertained that idea at the start of the season.
Atletico Madrid pipping Barca and Madrid a few seasons ago.
A decimated Celtic side in August 97 going onto win OIAR in 98 against a team that had strengthened an already strong squad.

Hunger and momentum are the biggest factors in sport (coupled with ability obviously). We don't seem to display much of the first 2 attributes this season and unless something radical happens before the start of next, I don't have much hope for TIAR certainly.
I think we are about 10 points a year better than them, they will be much of a muchness with Aberdeen/Hearts who will treat games against them as finals.

The board probably think the same, I am not falling into it Im very aware of it, we will probably win TIAR.

If you read my posts though my point is: so what, is that it?

The board have done the bare minimum to win the league and have lost the good will of the support along the way.

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I think you're falling into the same mindset as a lot of people at the club itself i.e. we think we're a lot better than we really are and we think they're a lot worse than they really are.

You say it wont work over a season but there are numerous examples of it doing just that when you get team cohesion, desire and usually opponents with bigger ego's than ability.

Leicester City (or even Spurs) will win the EPL this season. Chelsea, Man City, Man U and Arsenal would never have entertained that idea at the start of the season.
Atletico Madrid pipping Barca and Madrid a few seasons ago.
A decimated Celtic side in August 97 going onto win OIAR in 98 against a team that had strengthened an already strong squad.

Hunger and momentum are the biggest factors in sport (coupled with ability obviously). We don't seem to display much of the first 2 attributes this season and unless something radical happens before the start of next, I don't have much hope for TIAR certainly.
Aberdeen are on our coattails and they have less money than Sevco.

Adam Smith picked his nom de plume well.
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17 Apr 2016, 05:34 PM

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Yeah well it goes back to who actually appointed him , surely to god there was better options out there than Ronnie Delia , surely a club of our size could have attracted a half decent manager .the blame lies totally with the board .
No it doesn't only partly does it. They picked the guy they thought would do a good job and he has failed miserably :comp: :comp: Go into RD thread and see why he's mainly responsible.
As you said "they picked him" .
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The board should be absolutely ashamed at themselves. Again.

It's ridiculous to think of the state we are in currently. We had a real chance to build something great over the last 3 or so years and something with longevity. As is stands, we will have a new manager next year, we'll likely have a stack of new players as the current squad needs gutting and unless something radical is done soon, dwindling crowds. Not the way you'd envisage going for your 6th title in a row.

Watch Bill Hicks talk about 'marketing guys' and put ' hatred pound' in every so often to the sound of Peter Lawwell's voice. That's the business plan. :thumbsup: Forget Europe.
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Current board are dragging us back into the days of the Whites, Kellys and Grants, at least with the performances on the park ... the club might not be in financial trouble, but it certainly is on the pitch with continued downsizing and 'bargain' basement signings. Unfortunately there is no Fergus McCann to come riding to the rescue.

The current regime will have us shopping on the 'reduced to clear' shelf for years to come, aiming just to keep our snouts ahead of them, unless Mr Glib makes good on his promise to fund some sort of warchest. We've had four wasted years in the time they were gone, where we've regressed badly in that period.

A shocking state of affairs.
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Celtic Football club grabbed me as a 5 year old. Why? I don’t really know as all my close family were Rangers fans. Whatever the reason it became something special for me. I loved the club, the strip and the experiences. Going to Parkhead as a small boy was exciting, and even today on my rare trips through Glasgow I rarely take the M8, much preferring the long drive up London road, so that I can see this place that is so close to my heart.

As I got older I understood what this club was about. It was built out of charity, where everybody is equal and free to come in and become one of the family. I never saw any trouble and to be honest never really understood our role in this West of Scotland bigotry as I never saw or heard it. The people were friendly and I loved the fact that when we sang you’ll never walk alone some old fella gave you half his scarf to hold. It is a working man’s club, the peoples club where players and fans were one. In fact, some of the best players I saw were fans first and foremost. The stadium, today is fantastic, the ground around Celtic Park is wonderful to look at. I just love the place. I still get butterflies in the stomach when I attend a match.

Four years ago, Scottish football was placed into a position which most observers could not have seen coming. Rangers Fc had utilized a tax loop hole to pay players. This was being reviewed by the HMRC and the likelihood was a huge tax bill. The SFA and the rest of Scottish football had a difficult choice. However, there were only two real options. One to treat Rangers as every other club and acknowledge the club died after the refusal to agree a CVA, and lose the “old firm” sponsorship/investment in the Scottish game. The second was to create a falsehood of separating of club and company, where history could be maintained, but ask the new sevco club to be placed into the first division as a”punishment”. This kept the potential for the old firm money to be rekindled. Only for Turnbull Hutton to sort that oot.

Celtic Fc had the opportunity at this point to come out and state the outrage felt by the majority of fans who had spent hard earned money into a game for years that was rigged. They didn’t, they couldn’t as they required the old firm money also. However, Peter Lawwell needed to keep the fans onside so came out and stated Celtic did not need Rangers to maintain a separate business plan. This was later dismissed by the same man stating we were losing upwards of ten million per year.

Even with the resolution 12 fiasco the club are more interested in having the blue pound back. In fact I would suggest this may be more important than even having the green pound. It always has been about money to these guys. PL has been quoted as stating the reason for financial prudence at Celtic has been exampled by the Rangers’ disaster across the city. Hold on a minute you are already colluding in the idea that a club who is liquidated lives on Mr Lawwell, so why the need for any financial prudence. The worst is liquidation and a nice journey through the leagues.

These people running MY club and your club don’t have the same feelings we do. To them it is a job and a wage. The decision to place a manager with limited experience into this job shows the lack of feeling they have. I would respect the board more if they just told the truth. Listen guys we have limited funds and currently we are struggling money wise so we are going down this road. It’s a gamble and a risk. Don’t come out with statements like if a player is available for 8 million we can do this. Bullshampoo and lies. It’s called managing expectations and it’s not happened.

I don’t want these people at my club. Please go now, it’s been going on too long. We have no investment, no strategy, no thought and more importantly no drive. We need a new start, a new direction and people the fans can get behind who have Celtic football club in the heart. Football should be the only driver for our club, it never has and never will be about money. Thats why we are a different club to the rest.
Thanks for this - it sums up how a lot of us feel, irrespective of our different journeys that lead us to be Celtic fans. :thumbsup:
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What a self serving bunch of idiots our board really is. They actually think they are doing a good job in difficult circumstances. How deluded and condescending.
If they don't act soon, the protests will begin in earnest.
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What a self serving bunch of idiots our board really is. They actually think they are doing a good job in difficult circumstances. How deluded and condescending.
If they don't act soon, the protests will begin in earnest.
Tory bastards. Austerity Celtic.
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