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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,697 Views)
Tiny Tim
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paulfg42
14 Apr 2016, 09:46 AM
Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
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14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
Du Wei, Tony Watt, Carlton Cole and quite a few others
That's the kind of thing I'm asking about. I assume you mean he signed them and just imposed them on the manager. DO you know that for sure? If so, what was the extent of his interfering?
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14 Apr 2016, 09:35 AM
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14 Apr 2016, 12:10 AM
CeltFromTheHills
13 Apr 2016, 03:17 PM

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He gets paid as much or more than all but the top eight in the EPL.

The Vastly Overpaid Peter Lawwell
So.
Putting that into perspective, let's assume that our highest earning player is on £20k per week, i.e. app £1m per year.
ManUres top earner is, say, on £200k per week, i.e. app £10m per year.
In other terms, the top earning player is on app five times the salary of the CEO.

By that reckoning, if we were run as a football club (and not as some loss-leader within some bastard squillionaires portfolio of companies) SPLOB should be on £250k or Broony should be on £5m per year :rubeyes:
It is also "interesting" that Lawwell has turned us into a feeder club for Southampton, yet he manages to make sure he is on double the money of Southampton's top earner.
Edited by Neil McCallum, 14 Apr 2016, 10:53 AM.
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we could all send crackin refferences to sunderland!
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Neil McCallum
14 Apr 2016, 10:53 AM
georgiesleftpeg
14 Apr 2016, 09:35 AM
Neil McCallum
14 Apr 2016, 12:10 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe Vastly Overpaid Peter Lawwell
So.
Putting that into perspective, let's assume that our highest earning player is on £20k per week, i.e. app £1m per year.
ManUres top earner is, say, on £200k per week, i.e. app £10m per year.
In other terms, the top earning player is on app five times the salary of the CEO.

By that reckoning, if we were run as a football club (and not as some loss-leader within some bastard squillionaires portfolio of companies) SPLOB should be on £250k or Broony should be on £5m per year :rubeyes:
It is also "interesting" that Lawwell has turned us into a feeder club for Southampton, yet he manages to make sure he is on double the money of Southampton's top earner.
Sky turned us into a feeder club to the EPl. PL has been good at extracting maximum cash from them to be fair, that is why the board support his high wages, the question is whether he has strayed beyond his area of expertise.
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Neil McCallum
14 Apr 2016, 10:53 AM
georgiesleftpeg
14 Apr 2016, 09:35 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe Vastly Overpaid Peter Lawwell if we were run as a football club (and not as some loss-leader within some bastard squillionaires portfolio of companies) SPLOB should be on £250k or Broony should be on £5m per year :rubeyes:
It is also "interesting" that Lawwell has turned us into a feeder club for Southampton, yet he manages to make sure he is on double the money of Southampton's top earner.
Sky turned us into a feeder club to the EPl. PL has been good at extracting maximum cash from them to be fair, that is why the board support his high wages, the question is whether he has strayed beyond his area of expertise.
No, they didn't.

It is Lawwell's strategy purely and simply, to protect his bonus.

Along with waiting for the "return" of Sevco, he's quite the strategist.
Edited by Neil McCallum, 14 Apr 2016, 11:17 AM.
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14 Apr 2016, 08:13 AM
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14 Apr 2016, 01:11 AM
John Delaney as CEO... dear effin gHod NO :angry:

Whomever thinks that is a good idea should be banned from Football under the Offensive Behavior Act....

John effin' Delaney :nono: he's a bumbling incompetent clownshoe wearing eff wit

I know someone who was involved in Irish football for over 40 years.

When Delaney got voted in as the head of the FAI after Fran Rooney was shafted I asked that person did he think Delaney would succeed, his reply was that the only thing Delaney has going for him as Chief Executive Officer is that he won't have John Delaney in the background trying undermine him and urging others to stab the new CEO between the shoulder blades.
This John Delaney? Caused a bit of a stir when he got caught singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHeigdGLB64
I'm a better singer than him but it dosen't qualify me to be CEO of Celtic.

John Delaney is a waster and should be nowhere near the head of Irish football and even further away from being CEO of Celtic.
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remy mcswain
14 Apr 2016, 07:04 AM
Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
Bobo Balde
Miller too. Not that there was anything wrong with that one other than the principle.
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14 Apr 2016, 02:13 PM
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14 Apr 2016, 07:04 AM
Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM

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Bobo Balde
Miller too. Not that there was anything wrong with that one other than the principle.
Bobo, you have to understand, i'm here in my capacity of Chief Executive of Celtic Football Club...
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Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
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kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
That's why I've been asking for examples of his intervention. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, just that it's accepted as fact and repeated, without any concrete evidence.
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kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
Yes because that's what happens in real life. You undermine your boss at a press conference...
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kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.

Yes.

But only to people that they could trust.

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Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 03:50 PM
kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
That's why I've been asking for examples of his intervention. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, just that it's accepted as fact and repeated, without any concrete evidence.
Kenny Miller said that Lawwell told him he was 6th choice or something like that. Bobo confirmed that he was behind his situation as well.

Managers won't want sacked, then sign deals when they leave to get any cash due. It'd hurt future prospects too if you revealed everything about your previous club as well, cos who's to say you won't do it again?
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Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 03:50 PM
kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
That's why I've been asking for examples of his intervention. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, just that it's accepted as fact and repeated, without any concrete evidence.
Samaras said he wanted to stay, and the manager wanted him to stay but the 'man above' forced him out.
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Neil McCallum
14 Apr 2016, 11:17 AM
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Neil McCallum
14 Apr 2016, 10:53 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe Vastly Overpaid Peter Lawwell if we were run as a football club (and not as some loss-leader within some bastard squillionaires portfolio of companies) SPLOB should be on £250k or
Sky turned us into a feeder club to the EPl. PL has been good at extracting maximum cash from them to be fair, that is why the board support his high wages, the question is whether he has strayed beyond his area of expertise.
No, they didn't.

It is Lawwell's strategy purely and simply, to protect his bonus.

Along with waiting for the "return" of Sevco, he's quite the strategist.
He is a symptom not the cause.

If players have a good season or 2 and know they can get double the wages in EPL then they are going whether we like it or not.
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Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 03:50 PM
kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
That's why I've been asking for examples of his intervention. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, just that it's accepted as fact and repeated, without any concrete evidence.
Samaras said he wanted to stay, and the manager wanted him to stay but the 'man above' forced him out.
Joe Ledley told by Lawwell to go to Palace.

No doubt the naive bhoys won't believe this.
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kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
Pretty simple reason. They'd be in breach of their compromise agreement which ensures their silence.
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Joe Ledley's beard is at Lawwell's insistence.
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14 Apr 2016, 05:52 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe Vastly Overpaid Peter Lawwell if we were run as a football club (and not as some loss-leader within some bastard squillionaires portfolio of companies) SPLOB should be on £250k or
No, they didn't.

It is Lawwell's strategy purely and simply, to protect his bonus.

Along with waiting for the "return" of Sevco, he's quite the strategist.
He is a symptom not the cause.

If players have a good season or 2 and know they can get double the wages in EPL then they are going whether we like it or not.
Then a monkey could do his job.
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Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 03:50 PM
kellybhoy
14 Apr 2016, 03:42 PM
Has any manager or ex manager ever came out and stated plainly that Lawwell imposed players on him or interfered in the running of the team in any way? Just asking, because I suspect that a lot of assumptions are being made here, and wonder if they are based on actual fact.
That's why I've been asking for examples of his intervention. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, just that it's accepted as fact and repeated, without any concrete evidence.
It started out as a couple of rumours, and it grew arms and legs. At this point Lawwell's interference with signings is more or less taken for granted--even though there has never really been any evidence to back it up. (Although it's quite possible that some kind of evidence has been posted/published, and I've missed it.)

Just to be clear, I want him and Desmond gone--for all the obvious, tangible reasons.
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