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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,698 Views)
Tiny Tim
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IainG
11 Apr 2016, 05:40 PM
I fear if Lawwell goes his replacement will be another Desmond yes man briefed to carry on the "good work."
WHat would you expect? :ponder:
Desmond is the problem, not whoever he appoints as CEO
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Neil McCallum
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Surely TF we won't be paying Lawwell's replacement the absurd and obscene amount of money that Lawwell trousers?

One million quid is a sickening amount of money for the CEO of a "business" with our turnover.

Pay the replacement the going rate, no more than £250k.
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Neil McCallum
12 Apr 2016, 10:31 AM
Surely TF we won't be paying Lawwell's replacement the absurd and obscene amount of money that Lawwell trousers?

One million quid is a sickening amount of money for the CEO of a "business" with our turnover.

Pay the replacement the going rate, no more than £250k.
Sunderland's highest-paid executive earned 660K, give or take, last year. See how big Peter likes them apples.
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So Lawwell gets about one and a half times as much money as Sunderland's CEO on just over half the turnover.

And all based on a financial "strategy" of waiting for the "return" of Sevco.

He must have something on Desmond.
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Sunderland link is probably some journo putting 2 and 2 together due to Lawwell family connections and making a story off the back of it.
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aldo
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Hard to imagine Lawwell's successor getting anything like the £0.5m basic the £496k bonus, not least of all because he won't be walking into the SFA positions Lawwell has secured for himself (for all the benefit they have brought Celtic). I still can't get my head around Desmond allowing that ludicrously inflated remuneration in the first place - is he known for wildly over paying his CEO's?
That said, with Lawwell's package common knowledge, how would they sell the job to a competent replacement for half or less money? Unless they go for the Exec equivalent of Ronny Deila.
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Neil McCallum
12 Apr 2016, 11:57 AM
So Lawwell gets about one and a half times as much money as Sunderland's CEO on just over half the turnover.

And all based on a financial "strategy" of waiting for the "return" of Sevco.

He must have something on Desmond.
For the sake of balance, Sunderland are £94m in the hole and run appallingly all things considered. If they paid a better salary to attract a better CEO they might not be sailing so close to the wind. They are currently kept afloat by Ellis Short.
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CeltFromTheHills
13 Apr 2016, 03:17 PM
Neil McCallum
12 Apr 2016, 11:57 AM
So Lawwell gets about one and a half times as much money as Sunderland's CEO on just over half the turnover.

And all based on a financial "strategy" of waiting for the "return" of Sevco.

He must have something on Desmond.
For the sake of balance, Sunderland are £94m in the hole and run appallingly all things considered. If they paid a better salary to attract a better CEO they might not be sailing so close to the wind. They are currently kept afloat by Ellis Short.
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CeltFromTheHills
13 Apr 2016, 03:17 PM
Neil McCallum
12 Apr 2016, 11:57 AM
So Lawwell gets about one and a half times as much money as Sunderland's CEO on just over half the turnover.

And all based on a financial "strategy" of waiting for the "return" of Sevco.

He must have something on Desmond.
For the sake of balance, Sunderland are £94m in the hole and run appallingly all things considered. If they paid a better salary to attract a better CEO they might not be sailing so close to the wind. They are currently kept afloat by Ellis Short.
He gets paid as much or more than all but the top eight in the EPL.

The Vastly Overpaid Peter Lawwell
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John Delaney as CEO... dear effin gHod NO :angry:

Whomever thinks that is a good idea should be banned from Football under the Offensive Behavior Act....

John effin' Delaney :nono: he's a bumbling incompetent clownshoe wearing eff wit

I know someone who was involved in Irish football for over 40 years.

When Delaney got voted in as the head of the FAI after Fran Rooney was shafted I asked that person did he think Delaney would succeed, his reply was that the only thing Delaney has going for him as Chief Executive Officer is that he won't have John Delaney in the background trying undermine him and urging others to stab the new CEO between the shoulder blades.
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A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
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Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
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Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
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Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
Surely no manager wanted Rami Gershon? That was all very Dudu/Pedro. Weird deal.
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remy mcswain
14 Apr 2016, 07:04 AM
Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
Bobo Balde
Big man owned him though :thumbsup:
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Tiny Tim
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remy mcswain
14 Apr 2016, 07:04 AM
Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
Bobo Balde
So what exactly did he do there? I can see how contract negotiations are down to him, but other than agreeing to a contract with Bobo, what exacly was Lawwell's involvement? It was WGS who refused to play him, wasn't it?
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Tiny Tim
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riddlehouse
14 Apr 2016, 07:10 AM
Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
Surely no manager wanted Rami Gershon? That was all very Dudu/Pedro. Weird deal.
I've always assumed that it was Lawwell that decided we'd go to agents and just take whatever they had to offer- scouting agents instead of players, if you like. I was wondering what concrete examples there were, or if the interference thing is just assumptions, albeit reasonable ones.
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Lubo The Magician
14 Apr 2016, 01:11 AM
John Delaney as CEO... dear effin gHod NO :angry:

Whomever thinks that is a good idea should be banned from Football under the Offensive Behavior Act....

John effin' Delaney :nono: he's a bumbling incompetent clownshoe wearing eff wit

I know someone who was involved in Irish football for over 40 years.

When Delaney got voted in as the head of the FAI after Fran Rooney was shafted I asked that person did he think Delaney would succeed, his reply was that the only thing Delaney has going for him as Chief Executive Officer is that he won't have John Delaney in the background trying undermine him and urging others to stab the new CEO between the shoulder blades.
This John Delaney? Caused a bit of a stir when he got caught singing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHeigdGLB64
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Neil McCallum
14 Apr 2016, 12:10 AM
CeltFromTheHills
13 Apr 2016, 03:17 PM
Neil McCallum
12 Apr 2016, 11:57 AM
So Lawwell gets about one and a half times as much money as Sunderland's CEO on just over half the turnover.

And all based on a financial "strategy" of waiting for the "return" of Sevco.

He must have something on Desmond.
For the sake of balance, Sunderland are £94m in the hole and run appallingly all things considered. If they paid a better salary to attract a better CEO they might not be sailing so close to the wind. They are currently kept afloat by Ellis Short.
He gets paid as much or more than all but the top eight in the EPL.

The Vastly Overpaid Peter Lawwell
So.
Putting that into perspective, let's assume that our highest earning player is on £20k per week, i.e. app £1m per year.
ManUres top earner is, say, on £200k per week, i.e. app £10m per year.
In other terms, the top earning player is on app five times the salary of the CEO.

By that reckoning, if we were run as a football club (and not as some loss-leader within some bastard squillionaires portfolio of companies) SPLOB should be on £250k or Broony should be on £5m per year :rubeyes:
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Tiny Tim
14 Apr 2016, 06:54 AM
Big Drew
14 Apr 2016, 01:20 AM
A good few years ago Lawwell was lauded on here and worth every penny he made. He`s maybe outgrown the role, overstepped the mark, lost his way, but he did a lot of good as well (in the early years) and that should be remembered.

Time for him to move on and us to get someone that wont interfere in the footballing side so much.
I know it's a reasonable assumption to make that he does, but what examples of him interfering in footballing matters are there?
Du Wei, Tony Watt, Carlton Cole and quite a few others
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