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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
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bazzabhoy78
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8 Apr 2016, 02:12 PM
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http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/dermot-desmond-and-resolution-12/#more-7419
Couple of days old so sorry if already posted
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8 Apr 2016, 05:33 PM
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Just came across this online... bit suspicious asking for documents to be destroyed containing your appointment/resignation now? Spoiler: click to toggle Celtic’s majority shareholder Dermot Desmond has been dragged into the Panama Papers scandal after it was reported that the Irish billionaire has appeared in the files of Panama-based law firm Mossack Fonseca.
Desmond, who invested in Celtic back in 1994 at the time when Fergus McCann was taking control of the club, has been named in the law firm’s leaked documentation – including a letter dated June 2005 from HSBC Private Bank in Switzerland to the law firm’s office in Panama in relation to a company called Ard International Inc.
A meeting of company directors the same month, allegedly granted Desmond general power of attorney over the company to Desmond – including the right to deal in assets, open and close bank accounts.
Five months later another letter allegedly from Desmond asked the Ard International directors to pass power of attorney to two Swiss lawyers instead of him, with Desmond reportedly quoted as writing: “This being done, I resign as attorney of the above mentioned company and ask you to kindly destroy the document of my appointment and the one of my resignation.”
There is no information on what business was conducted by Ard International, if any, it is questionable that Desmond would request the destruction of documentation highlighting his appointment and resignation of a company.
Earlier this week, we reported on our twitter account that former Celtic defender Marc Rieper was also named in the Panama Papers.
Following his playing career ending, Rieper allegedly set up the company Bolsover Corp. in Panama. However, the retired Danish international denied any knowledge of the company and in a message to DR News, Rieper said: “I’ve never had any kind of cooperation with anyone or anything in Panama. How our names got there, I am not able to help.”
To make it clear at this stage, there is no evidence or information to state that Desmond or Rieper were involved in any sort of criminality
Surprise surprise. Not the only one with a Celtic connection mentioned - he refuses to be involved though, but I'll let the Scottish press do the their own work before they make up a Celtic scandale
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8 Apr 2016, 06:12 PM
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Just came across this online... bit suspicious asking for documents to be destroyed containing your appointment/resignation now? Spoiler: click to toggle Celtic’s majority shareholder Dermot Desmond has been dragged into the Panama Papers scandal after it was reported that the Irish billionaire has appeared in the files of Panama-based law firm Mossack Fonseca.
Desmond, who invested in Celtic back in 1994 at the time when Fergus McCann was taking control of the club, has been named in the law firm’s leaked documentation – including a letter dated June 2005 from HSBC Private Bank in Switzerland to the law firm’s office in Panama in relation to a company called Ard International Inc.
A meeting of company directors the same month, allegedly granted Desmond general power of attorney over the company to Desmond – including the right to deal in assets, open and close bank accounts.
Five months later another letter allegedly from Desmond asked the Ard International directors to pass power of attorney to two Swiss lawyers instead of him, with Desmond reportedly quoted as writing: “This being done, I resign as attorney of the above mentioned company and ask you to kindly destroy the document of my appointment and the one of my resignation.”
There is no information on what business was conducted by Ard International, if any, it is questionable that Desmond would request the destruction of documentation highlighting his appointment and resignation of a company.
Earlier this week, we reported on our twitter account that former Celtic defender Marc Rieper was also named in the Panama Papers.
Following his playing career ending, Rieper allegedly set up the company Bolsover Corp. in Panama. However, the retired Danish international denied any knowledge of the company and in a message to DR News, Rieper said: “I’ve never had any kind of cooperation with anyone or anything in Panama. How our names got there, I am not able to help.”
To make it clear at this stage, there is no evidence or information to state that Desmond or Rieper were involved in any sort of criminality
Surprise surprise.
Not the only one with a Celtic connection mentioned - he refuses to be involved though, but I'll let the Scottish press do the their own work before they make up a Celtic scandale Some hun mob on twitter already claiming conspiracies amongst the "mhedia" and it wouldn't be hushed up if it were a sevco director.
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8 Apr 2016, 06:33 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Spoiler: click to toggle Celtic’s majority shareholder Dermot Desmond has been dragged into the Panama Papers scandal after it was reported that the Irish billionaire has appeared in the files of Panama-based law firm Mossack Fonseca.
Desmond, who invested in Celtic back in 1994 at the time when Fergus McCann was taking control of the club, has been named in the law firm’s leaked documentation – including a letter dated June 2005 from HSBC Private Bank in Switzerland to the law firm’s office in Panama in relation to a company called Ard International Inc.
A meeting of company directors the same month, allegedly granted Desmond general power of attorney over the company to Desmond – including the right to deal in assets, open and close bank accounts.
Five months later another letter allegedly from Desmond asked the Ard International directors to pass power of attorney to two Swiss lawyers instead of him, with Desmond reportedly quoted as writing: “This being done, I resign as attorney of the above mentioned company and ask you to kindly destroy the document of my appointment and the one of my resignation.”
There is no information on what business was conducted by Ard International, if any, it is questionable that Desmond would request the destruction of documentation highlighting his appointment and resignation of a company.
Earlier this week, we reported on our twitter account that former Celtic defender Marc Rieper was also named in the Panama Papers.
Following his playing career ending, Rieper allegedly set up the company Bolsover Corp. in Panama. However, the retired Danish international denied any knowledge of the company and in a message to DR News, Rieper said: “I’ve never had any kind of cooperation with anyone or anything in Panama. How our names got there, I am not able to help.”
To make it clear at this stage, there is no evidence or information to state that Desmond or Rieper were involved in any sort of criminality
Not the only one with a Celtic connection mentioned - he refuses to be involved though, but I'll let the Scottish press do the their own work before they make up a Celtic scandale
Some hun mob on twitter already claiming conspiracies amongst the "mhedia" and it wouldn't be hushed up if it were a sevco director. We have high class tax dodgers who didn't crap on their own doorstep.
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10 Apr 2016, 12:13 AM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc?
Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns?
NotgotaclueCSC
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10 Apr 2016, 07:30 AM
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At one time under MON we had 52000 season ticket holders and a 10000 waiting list.
you don't actually believe that ,do you? Had that pish flung at me for years as the reason I couldny get a ticket. Don't know whether to hate my da or whatever marketing pumpkin came up with it more.
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paulfg42
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10 Apr 2016, 07:33 AM
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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At one time under MON we had 52000 season ticket holders and a 10000 waiting list.
you don't actually believe that ,do you? I don't know how many were on it but there was definitely a waiting list.
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10 Apr 2016, 07:38 AM
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At one time under MON we had 52000 season ticket holders and a 10000 waiting list.
you don't actually believe that ,do you?
I don't know how many were on it but there was definitely a waiting list. We would have put another tier on to the South Stand if that was the case
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10 Apr 2016, 07:52 AM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC *Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it
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10 Apr 2016, 11:14 AM
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At one time under MON we had 52000 season ticket holders and a 10000 waiting list.
you don't actually believe that ,do you?
Had that pish flung at me for years as the reason I couldny get a ticket. Don't know whether to hate my da or whatever marketing pumpkin came up with it more. To be fair I think if you wanted a specific area, there was a waiting list (i.e to sit next to family or pals) If you didn't mind where you sat you could get a season book no problem.I know folk who picked up season tickets no problem throughout MONs era.
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10 Apr 2016, 04:06 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think Phil has put Desmond wise, so all should be sorted rapidly.
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10 Apr 2016, 04:07 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think Phil has put Desmond wise, so all should be sorted rapidly.
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10 Apr 2016, 06:19 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think
Phil has put Desmond wise, so all should be sorted rapidly. Aye, watch me while I hold my breath.
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10 Apr 2016, 07:05 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think
Phil has put Desmond wise, so all should be sorted rapidly. Sorted in what way do you reckon? the board act on it?
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10 Apr 2016, 08:38 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think No
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10 Apr 2016, 08:49 PM
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They are all arse holes.
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10 Apr 2016, 09:49 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think The basic story is that the SFA conspired with the old Huns to allow them to play in Europe in the Chris Whyte year. They were able to keep the wee tax bill off the books until just after they had been certified as meeting the criteria for playing in Europe (which coincidentally includes a rule that you can't owe Hector any money). There was much merriment, hearty laughing and backslapping among the bigwigs of both organisations at how clever they had been in circumventing the rules.
Some enterprising Timmy sleuths / internet bampots (delete as appropriate) dug deep into the certification process and found, much to our dismay, that RFC (soon to be in Liquidation) were correctly certified at the end of March. However, that was just the first stage. It turns out that it is effectively a two stage process. It gets done at the and of March and then again at the end of June. This was not immediately obvious because there are different Articles in the rules referring to each stage/date/certification.
The reason this is so important is that the wee tax bill had crystalized by this date and Rangers should not have been allowed to compete in Europe.
When the Celtic shareholders questioned why Ranngers were not de-certified in June, the SFA replied that they would only deal with the Club. When the Club asked, the SFA relied that Rangers were correctly certified at the end of March, completely ignoring the question about June.
As of now, the Timmy sleuths and Celtic appear to agree that we need to escalate it to UEFA, though that conclusion could be controversial. Celtic want the shareholders to contact UEFA while the shareholders think that the Club need to do it to be taken seriously ( and because the SFA replied only to the Club). The more cynical among the support think that the Board are trying to stall as there may (or may not) be a time limit on if UEFA can look at it and this may (or may not) be approaching.
It turns out that there is no need to take it to UEFA in any case. Stewart Regan, when questioned about what he would do if Rangers were incorrectly granted a European license, stated that he would leave every stone unturned and do absolutely nothing.
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10 Apr 2016, 10:17 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think
The basic story is that the SFA conspired with the old Huns to allow them to play in Europe in the Chris Whyte year. They were able to keep the wee tax bill off the books until just after they had been certified as meeting the criteria for playing in Europe (which coincidentally includes a rule that you can't owe Hector any money). There was much merriment, hearty laughing and backslapping among the bigwigs of both organisations at how clever they had been in circumventing the rules. Some enterprising Timmy sleuths / internet bampots (delete as appropriate) dug deep into the certification process and found, much to our dismay, that RFC (soon to be in Liquidation) were correctly certified at the end of March. However, that was just the first stage. It turns out that it is effectively a two stage process. It gets done at the and of March and then again at the end of June. This was not immediately obvious because there are different Articles in the rules referring to each stage/date/certification. The reason this is so important is that the wee tax bill had crystalized by this date and Rangers should not have been allowed to compete in Europe. When the Celtic shareholders questioned why Ranngers were not de-certified in June, the SFA replied that they would only deal with the Club. When the Club asked, the SFA relied that Rangers were correctly certified at the end of March, completely ignoring the question about June. As of now, the Timmy sleuths and Celtic appear to agree that we need to escalate it to UEFA, though that conclusion could be controversial. Celtic want the shareholders to contact UEFA while the shareholders think that the Club need to do it to be taken seriously ( and because the SFA replied only to the Club). The more cynical among the support think that the Board are trying to stall as there may (or may not) be a time limit on if UEFA can look at it and this may (or may not) be approaching. It turns out that there is no need to take it to UEFA in any case. Stewart Regan, when questioned about what he would do if Rangers were incorrectly granted a European license, stated that he would leave every stone unturned and do absolutely nothing. So there you have it . It's all about money. Roll on the old firm , there's ST s to be sold .
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10 Apr 2016, 11:14 PM
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I've not paid much attention to the whole R12 stuff, however have noticed numerous posts on social media mainly Celtic's twitter feed recently fans asking what they're doing regarding this etc? Anyone care to explain in as short a post as possible what the whole deal is? My understanding is the SFA haven't followed the correct procedures when dealing with the deed huns? NotgotaclueCSC
*Thats about it, the SFA let the deed Huns play in Europe when they had overdue tax bills, they have been caught and refuse to answer questions unless it's from Celtic, question is are Celtic going to act on it *I think
The basic story is that the SFA conspired with the old Huns to allow them to play in Europe in the Chris Whyte year. They were able to keep the wee tax bill off the books until just after they had been certified as meeting the criteria for playing in Europe (which coincidentally includes a rule that you can't owe Hector any money). There was much merriment, hearty laughing and backslapping among the bigwigs of both organisations at how clever they had been in circumventing the rules. Some enterprising Timmy sleuths / internet bampots (delete as appropriate) dug deep into the certification process and found, much to our dismay, that RFC (soon to be in Liquidation) were correctly certified at the end of March. However, that was just the first stage. It turns out that it is effectively a two stage process. It gets done at the and of March and then again at the end of June. This was not immediately obvious because there are different Articles in the rules referring to each stage/date/certification. The reason this is so important is that the wee tax bill had crystalized by this date and Rangers should not have been allowed to compete in Europe. When the Celtic shareholders questioned why Ranngers were not de-certified in June, the SFA replied that they would only deal with the Club. When the Club asked, the SFA relied that Rangers were correctly certified at the end of March, completely ignoring the question about June. As of now, the Timmy sleuths and Celtic appear to agree that we need to escalate it to UEFA, though that conclusion could be controversial. Celtic want the shareholders to contact UEFA while the shareholders think that the Club need to do it to be taken seriously ( and because the SFA replied only to the Club). The more cynical among the support think that the Board are trying to stall as there may (or may not) be a time limit on if UEFA can look at it and this may (or may not) be approaching. It turns out that there is no need to take it to UEFA in any case. Stewart Regan, when questioned about what he would do if Rangers were incorrectly granted a European license, stated that he would leave every stone unturned and do absolutely nothing. cheers
Massive call for the board then, I can't imagine uefa would actually do much about it but it would bring to light the SFA incompetence and make Regan answerable.
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11 Apr 2016, 04:51 AM
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At one time under MON we had 52000 season ticket holders and a 10000 waiting list.
you don't actually believe that ,do you?
I don't know how many were on it but there was definitely a waiting list. TO told me it was 7,000 when i moved back to Scotland and phoned to ask about one. That was in 99.
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