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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,703 Views)
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I am sure there a few halfwits out there who dropped their season tickets when Rangers died, and who are counting the days till Sevco "return". I seriously doubt that they will outnumber the numbers of current season ticket holders who are going to chuck it if we are going in to next season without a new manager and serious investment in the team.

I am firmly in the latter camp. And of my two daughters who attend the games with me one has already asked me not to renew. The other is in two minds.

None of us are looking at this in terms of whether Sevco are there or not.

I am prepared to take my chances on losing my seat and will hold out until I see where we are headed.

If we replace Ronny and spend well then I will be delighted if I am wrong and I end up at that the back of the North Stand. But sadly I am confident I will have the choice of many, many seats if I do sign up late.
Its certainly a difficult situation for a lot of fans as it was last year. I wont be renewing mine, but for financial reasons. Difficult to know how many lost SBs were due to the huns dying, finances, pish product. But I think you'll see a pretty much full house for the league games versus the huns.
Of course we will sell out those two home games.

The question is the rest.
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Its certainly a difficult situation for a lot of fans as it was last year. I wont be renewing mine, but for financial reasons. Difficult to know how many lost SBs were due to the huns dying, finances, pish product. But I think you'll see a pretty much full house for the league games versus the huns.
Of course we will sell out those two home games.

The question is the rest.
So that is kind of my point, that there is a substantial interest in the huns coming back. If we dont sell more SBs there doesnt appear to be much chance of investment in the product. Going by the way the club is being run.
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Makes me laugh that some posters think the "I wont be renewing unless.......*insert reason*" thing will actually work.

We sold in the region of 40k season tickets this year and will no doubt sell the same next year if not more with the return of the Huns II.

There's never going to be a case of something like 20k season ticket holders NOT renewing. So all your really doing is cutting your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Each to their own though :thumbsup:

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Think so too, sadly. That's Lawwell's bet, that us pounding them 4 times a year will make us forget we had our money stolen from us for 10 years.

Will be business as usual come August.
Not just from us, from every person in the country. THAT'S what should be galvanising the effing press.

Forget Google, Amazon etc. What about this great unmentionable fact about the " fabric of the nation "
the " biggest institution in the country after the Church of Scotland, " the former Rangers FC, which the former first minister of the country,swindled out of circa £100 million, said should be looked upon leniently by HMRC. WTF.

In reply to marcat's post where a boycott of away games and games at Hampden would force the media to report
on the boycott and the reasons wherefore.

IMHO, that will never, ever happen. If such a boycott did take place, then it would be reported as CELTIC paranoia,
driven by bigotry, sour grapes, fear of a mighty all conquering Rangers * being " back " accompanied by the " let's all
move on " rhetoric so beloved of the liquidation deniers and PR lackeys of the SMSM.
They didn't report the biggest tax dodging scandal in this country, by calling out Murray and the Rangers'FC board,
or attempt any investigation whatsoever, including asking the SFA ( a public body, lest we forget ) what they knew about
said tax dodging by Rangers. EBT Ogilvie anyone ? :ffs:
We can forget the media getting involved in any factual reporting of this issue. Anyway the media, both here and in England have been furnished with all the details of Res12 by Auldheid et al. No takers as last heard.

I don't mean to be down on you marcat, and in any other society this WOULD be all over the press, just not here,
with the honourable exceptions of Mark Daly and Alex Thomson.
I don't have any strategy for achieving justice re Res 12 and other cheating issues, other than not renewing our 4
season tickets and stating why to the board.
Our hands are well and truly tied here guys unless the board acts.

Dont be so sure about the media.

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Very busy at the moment but hope to be writing about Rangers soon.
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Would love to think we can organise and hold some form of protest - SB will all be sold, we'll probably all crumble and buy them.

I've missed half the games this season due to work and I'll probably still buy it. Thing is it has been pretty difficult to give away a free ticket these past few months.

Don't get me wrong I won't be there on Saturday and plenty of people asked if they could get it for the Hearts game and I imagine the same would happen if / when the Zombies are promoted.

A Green Brigade banner asking about Res 12 could work a massive Res 12 and a question mark, with a gathering outside the front doors before / after the game - I doubt enough people would attend though to make it worthwhile.
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Celticbhoy_07
28 Mar 2016, 03:45 PM
Makes me laugh that some posters think the "I wont be renewing unless.......*insert reason*" thing will actually work.

We sold in the region of 40k season tickets this year and will no doubt sell the same next year if not more with the return of the Huns II.

There's never going to be a case of something like 20k season ticket holders NOT renewing. So all your really doing is cutting your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Each to their own though :thumbsup:

You seriously think the club will sell out season books?
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Unfortunately, I think there are enough Celtic fans slabbering at though of playing the tribute act, that Pistol Pete will just keep the head
down in the hope it goes away. Any other business would be fighting to ensure their customers who paid good money to watch a rigged
league would have sort of justice. Quite depressing really.
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Celticbhoy_07
28 Mar 2016, 03:45 PM
Makes me laugh that some posters think the "I wont be renewing unless.......*insert reason*" thing will actually work.

We sold in the region of 40k season tickets this year and will no doubt sell the same next year if not more with the return of the Huns II.

There's never going to be a case of something like 20k season ticket holders NOT renewing. So all your really doing is cutting your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Each to their own though :thumbsup:

I am not talking protest. I am talking personally scunnered to the point I don't want to put up with another season of it.

If we get someone like Moyes and some serious investment in the areas of the team that need it then maybe I will choose to spend my money. Otherwise, two Sevco games is not going to make me put up with another season of struggling against the likes of Hamilton and Dundee :twitch:
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28 Mar 2016, 04:04 PM
Celticbhoy_07
28 Mar 2016, 03:45 PM
Makes me laugh that some posters think the "I wont be renewing unless.......*insert reason*" thing will actually work.

We sold in the region of 40k season tickets this year and will no doubt sell the same next year if not more with the return of the Huns II.

There's never going to be a case of something like 20k season ticket holders NOT renewing. So all your really doing is cutting your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Each to their own though :thumbsup:

You seriously think the club will sell out season books?
At no point did I say we'd sell out season books :suspect:

What I'm saying is we wont sell less season books next year than we did this year in my opinion.
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28 Mar 2016, 04:14 PM
Celticbhoy_07
28 Mar 2016, 03:45 PM
Makes me laugh that some posters think the "I wont be renewing unless.......*insert reason*" thing will actually work.

We sold in the region of 40k season tickets this year and will no doubt sell the same next year if not more with the return of the Huns II.

There's never going to be a case of something like 20k season ticket holders NOT renewing. So all your really doing is cutting your nose off to spite your face :lol:

Each to their own though :thumbsup:

I am not talking protest. I am talking personally scunnered to the point I don't want to put up with another season of it.

If we get someone like Moyes and some serious investment in the areas of the team that need it then maybe I will choose to spend my money. Otherwise, two Sevco games is not going to make me put up with another season of struggling against the likes of Hamilton and Dundee :twitch:
As I said each to their own mate :thumbsup:

There's no right answer. My Saturday's for the past 20 year have been a few drinks watch the game and then go home or out afterwards. I'm far from happy with what I've watched this
season and far from happy with the choice of manager. However that wont stop me from going to games :lol: I'll be at parkhead a long time after some of the imposters that are there at the moment
so for the time being I just need to grin and bear it.

There's been far worse times to support the club than right now so gotta take the rough with the smooth that's the way I see it.



P.S your on to plumbs if you think we're going to bring in a manager like Moyes and spend millions on the team. So enjoy your sabbatical away from Parkhead :lol:
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28 Mar 2016, 04:06 PM
Unfortunately, I think there are enough Celtic fans slabbering at though of playing the tribute act, that Pistol Pete will just keep the head
down in the hope it goes away. Any other business would be fighting to ensure their customers who paid good money to watch a rigged
league would have sort of justice. Quite depressing really.
It will go away. Nothing surer.

:nono:
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Its certainly a difficult situation for a lot of fans as it was last year. I wont be renewing mine, but for financial reasons. Difficult to know how many lost SBs were due to the huns dying, finances, pish product. But I think you'll see a pretty much full house for the league games versus the huns.
Of course we will sell out those two home games.

The question is the rest.
To be fair, it only takes 50,000 Celtic fans to sell out games against them whereas it'll take the thick end of 60,000 to sell out the others.
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28 Mar 2016, 12:06 PM
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28 Mar 2016, 03:29 AM
Re resolution 12. The fact that the SFA decision was not challenged at the time it was made means that the club is unlikely to pursue it now. Whether we like it or not Celtic FC does not wish to have ongoing confrontation with with another member of the SPFL. The fans may think nothing of this kind of acrimony between us and the huns, but the fact is that the SPFL survives on ongoing cooperation and goodwill amongst its members. Too much time has now passed and and any kind of action from Celtic at this point would IMO create friction for which Celtic would without doubt be blamed.
Resolution 12, again as I understand it, has nothing to do with Sevco.
It is an action against the SFA.
OK, but what is the desired outcome of this action?
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They are different.

Unless I've missed their apology for their years of systematic cheating, dishonesty and book-cooking, as well as their offer to settle all of their debts in full.

'Different scheidt, same flies' is neither here nor there. I have no interest in Sevco, and I want them to die like the club they shabbily imitate.
It'll be the same jersey, same club name, same disgusting fans... whether they're a new company/club/whatever or not isnt the issue as far as the game goes. I know its not a popular opinion on here but its how a lot of fans see it.

you want them to die, they want Celtic to die, nothings changed then. :lol:
Lots of things change about clubs. They build new stands, they change their jerseys, they add badges, change badges, sometimes after decades, they knock down the stand they built and move to a brand new spanking out of town stadium, they change the name of the ground from some cherished historical name to an advert for a training shoe or an airline... all of these things happen, yet they remain the same club.

One thing that happens that means you're not the same club? Liquidation. You go out of business. You lose your history, the continuity that took you from the day you were formed by soon-to-be certified imbeciles and bankrupts, to the day that you went out of business, with the same kind of people in charge. All the stuff in between? A memory. Sure, it's their memory and no one can take it from them. No one wants to. We're not in the business of rewriting history (that's their job).

But the notion that they're the same club, just because their name is nearly the same and the people who follow follow them out of that crumbling temple of doom like to sing songs about the good ol' days of religious discrimination? Well, they can cling to it like an old fart, but it's left their rotten, decomposing arse and it's not coming back.
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45k+ Season tickets for next 2 years for nostalgic reasons.

Then we are on 8-9-10 in a row marketing strategy.

Progression in european competitions, added bonus.

5 Year business plan of 45k+ right there, all in the length of a twitter message.
Edited by Adam Smith 11, 28 Mar 2016, 06:33 PM.
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45k+ Season tickets for next 2 years for nostalgic reasons.

Then we are on 8-9-10 in a row marketing strategy.

Progression in european competitions, added bonus.

5 Year business plan of 45k+ right there, all in the length of a twitter message.
Nostalgic?
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45k+ Season tickets for next 2 years for nostalgic reasons.

Then we are on 8-9-10 in a row marketing strategy.

Progression in european competitions, added bonus.

5 Year business plan of 45k+ right there, all in the length of a twitter message.
Nostalgic?
Tribute band.
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No was there will be 45k+ season tickets sold next season, even if we get Moyes.
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I'd agree with that summation^(adam smith), at least in the way the board'll be thinking stylee :nono:
Edited by georgiesleftpeg, 28 Mar 2016, 07:22 PM.
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28 Mar 2016, 07:20 PM
I'd agree with that summation^(adam smith), at least in the way the board'll be thinking stylee :nono:
I remember Harry Brady on the Celtic Underground podcast towing through something similar to outline how the death of the Huns would be a marketing and commercial diamond for the club. That didn't exactly work out too well considering the idiots managed to blow almost every opportunity they got.
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