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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,715 Views)
Cossy
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You know, I can put up with the muck on the park, players not trying etc. I've seen it before, it's football, it happens.

This, however, runs far deeper and is much more than 11 guys on the park. This is about the ethos of the club and about what we as a club and a support have had to contend with historically. This is a gross dereliction of duty by our board. Every so often our club has to stand up and fight our corner and if those in the boardroom can't or won't do it, they should not be there.

This, more than anything, really questions why I bother.
Edited by Cossy, 10 Mar 2016, 10:10 AM.
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BombJack
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What a shambolic situation.
There's a time-bar?
Time bar for what exactly?
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lunarhog
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For arguments sake, what do we think would happen if this was taken to UEFA and they addressed it through the proper channels? Compensation for Celtic and other Scottish clubs who suffered as a result? Fines and punishments for the SFA?
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tomtheleedstim
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I am sorry to say that whilst this action (or lack of it) from the board sickens me, it does not surprise me.
They have been reluctant to get involved publicly from the start. In fact it is easy to assume that they have been attempting to spike the noble endeavours of the res 12 guys from the start.
The very first thing they did was to ensure all discussions took place far from the public eye when the very opposite was required. What we needed was a bright torch shining on the whole dirty issue.
As some have already stated I also have wondered whether there are reasons unknown to us mere supporters why they would prefer to let this sleeping dog lie. Is there something in our financial past which they would rather keep quiet? I don't know.

What I do know is that if Celtic were serious about investigating the award of the UEFA licence to the huns then they would want the UEFA Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) to be the body who is made aware of the issue. These are the people tasked with investigating licensing issues and deciding relevant punishment.
Imagine my surprise a few weeks ago when i happened across a list of the "investigators" and found out that one of them is a Mr Brian Quinn of Scotland. http://www.uefa.org/disciplinary/news/newsid=2052613.html
If you were able to appoint a sympathetic ear to the most relevant UEFA body then it would be a Celtic man on that committee. I have to say my heart sank when i found that out.

I can only judge the Celtic board on their actions and with the facts at my disposal and until someone can tell me different I am of the opinion that they have deliberately undermined the res. 12 guys.
I have the highest opinion of those good people and the integrity behind their actions. The Celtic board I hold in contempt.
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Chronic town
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lunarhog
10 Mar 2016, 10:32 AM
For arguments sake, what do we think would happen if this was taken to UEFA and they addressed it through the proper channels? Compensation for Celtic and other Scottish clubs who suffered as a result? Fines and punishments for the SFA?
I'd be happy with a public acknowledgement that they bent the rules for one club.
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pads99
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Dare I say the PLC board are acting like Huns.

We rightly direct our ire at Ogilvie, Regan and Doncaster but the people who run Celtic are just as culpable if they let this pass
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georgiesleftpeg
10 Mar 2016, 09:37 AM
Sev^
Are you suggesting that a potential reason for the board of Celtic dragging their collective feet in this matter may be concerned with some stuff (i.e. bonus's paid to individuals for player sales, individual boards members links to certain agents) having to be disclosed?

I thought that this issue was only concerning the dead hun, so why would we have to disclose information into the public domain that involves our executives?

May have got the wrong end of the proverbial stick, but. :ponder:

Interesting sheidt, though...
No i'm simply asking the question if anyone knows the answer

I assume that as an aim listed plc we'd have to disclose any such arrangements, if any did indeed exist, as only then could you get a full picture of earnings and be able to watch for conflict of interest.
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But... But... But the board were just biding their time, weren't they?
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lunarhog
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why are the board afeard off upsetting the SFA?
do the authorities have some dirt on them by any chance?
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tomtheleedstim
10 Mar 2016, 10:35 AM
I am sorry to say that whilst this action (or lack of it) from the board sickens me, it does not surprise me.
They have been reluctant to get involved publicly from the start. In fact it is easy to assume that they have been attempting to spike the noble endeavours of the res 12 guys from the start.
The very first thing they did was to ensure all discussions took place far from the public eye when the very opposite was required. What we needed was a bright torch shining on the whole dirty issue.
As some have already stated I also have wondered whether there are reasons unknown to us mere supporters why they would prefer to let this sleeping dog lie. Is there something in our financial past which they would rather keep quiet? I don't know.

What I do know is that if Celtic were serious about investigating the award of the UEFA licence to the huns then they would want the UEFA Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) to be the body who is made aware of the issue. These are the people tasked with investigating licensing issues and deciding relevant punishment.
Imagine my surprise a few weeks ago when i happened across a list of the "investigators" and found out that one of them is a Mr Brian Quinn of Scotland. http://www.uefa.org/disciplinary/news/newsid=2052613.html
If you were able to appoint a sympathetic ear to the most relevant UEFA body then it would be a Celtic man on that committee. I have to say my heart sank when i found that out.

I can only judge the Celtic board on their actions and with the facts at my disposal and until someone can tell me different I am of the opinion that they have deliberately undermined the res. 12 guys.
I have the highest opinion of those good people and the integrity behind their actions. The Celtic board I hold in contempt.
:thumbsup: Well said Tom.

SO,SO depressed by that post from BRTH.
Like others, I had hopes ( and actually believed, idiotically,it now seems ) that behind the scenes things were being addressed re the Euro licence, the Bryson / Ogilvie registration farrago, massive tax dodging, same club delusion etc.
I just couldn't imagine that the Celtic board would let this weapons grade, ocean going cheating go unpunished.
Clearly this is not the case.

It seems we're still "sitting at the back of the bus " keeping our heads down, letting the WATP brigade
stamp all over us and then thanking them for the privilege. :ffs:
Oh and passing the buck to the shareholders to take our greviences to the relevant authorities. WTF !!!!!!!!
Well I'm a shareholder and a paying customer, and I'll be taking my grievances directly to Peter Lawwell.

Can anyone imagine Fergus Mc Cann putting up with this? No! Me neither. Furious. :angry:
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I said a long time ago the board had parked this by getting well meaning, but ultimately powerless, fans to do this. Removed from an agm so it wasn't discussed openly. This had to come from the board. They are failing us and have no idea of the supporters' feelings on this.
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Mackin
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lunarhog
10 Mar 2016, 10:32 AM
For arguments sake, what do we think would happen if this was taken to UEFA and they addressed it through the proper channels? Compensation for Celtic and other Scottish clubs who suffered as a result? Fines and punishments for the SFA?
I'm sure there's an argument to be made that due to the SFA's corruption, UEFA could ban all Scottish clubs from Europe and Scotland from competing at international level.
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OptimusCheese
10 Mar 2016, 10:58 AM
But... But... But the board were just biding their time, weren't they?
Playing a blinder they are.

I see someone used the phrase 'self serving bastards'. Sums our board up perfectly.
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Ned Rise
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"Hitting them in the pocket" doesn't work. This will be put down to the "difficult environment the club operates in" and in fact probably make the failed conveyor belt policy go into overdrive.

If people are hitting them in the pocket, it has to be done as a message, such as the Liverpool fans walking out recently. Otherwise, a low attendance can be put down to the economic climate, Mothers' Day, playstations, the weather, no competition (ahem), no zombies, and so on.

A few thousand people don't go because of the board hoping this issue runs out of time? Add them to the list, then sell another player to make up for it, and replace him with three pish ones.
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Wee Ed KTF
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So, Celtic's PLC Board will not pursue justice, is therefore condoning and sanctioning cheating, and by doing so is complicit and culpable in cheating

Perhaps John James is right: Our Board is cowardly and spineless and, or will do anything to encourage the 'return' of the money-making Glasgow duopoly. It's all about the money, the sport is irrelevant.

Begs the questions: Is Scottish football honest? Is Scottish football corrupt? Is Scottish football's governance honest? What else are our powerbrokers prepared to do, what rules are they prepared to fracture, such as gerrymandering promotion and relegation, interfering with Cup draws, influencing referees?

If Scottish football is corrupt, why support it?
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3 Blind Mice
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It's along with the money, been about getting the OF back and running again, and it's seems that they have achieved their goal.
Aye a few will walk away, but many many more will take their place.
To coin a phrase, not another thin dime will the club get from me or my family as long as the current board are in situ, they are worse than huns imo, huns do what they do cos they are huns.
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3 Blind Mice
10 Mar 2016, 12:52 PM
It's along with the money, been about getting the OF back and running again, and it's seems that they have achieved their goal.
Aye a few will walk away, but many many more will take their place.
To coin a phrase, not another thin dime will the club get from me or my family as long as the current board are in situ, they are worse than huns imo, huns do what they do cos they are huns.
I don't think they will.
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How can these ***** be so blind? The shampooe on the park, the falling attendances, the harassment by the cops and now this?

Can they not see that fans(or paying customers to these arseholes) are being driven away, with a good chance that some may never return?
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Wee Ed KTF
10 Mar 2016, 12:30 PM


Begs the questions: Is Scottish football honest? Is Scottish football corrupt? Is Scottish football's governance honest? What else are our powerbrokers prepared to do, what rules are they prepared to fracture, such as gerrymandering promotion and relegation, interfering with Cup draws, influencing referees?

If Scottish football is corrupt, why support it?
The board see happy for us to be the Harlem Globetrotters opponents.
Who cares if it's a fix so long as bums on seats and £1m wage, job's a good 'un.

If we cant see an even fair competition then we'd be better watching WWE-at least they're honest about it.

Does anyone want to continue to support a rigged competition?
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10 Mar 2016, 01:13 PM
How can these ***** be so blind? The shampooe on the park, the falling attendances, the harassment by the cops and now this?

Can they not see that fans(or paying customers to these arseholes) are being driven away, with a good chance that some may never return?
They're Tories to a man, ergo they give not one single eff about anyone else as long as they're getting paid.
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