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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,720 Views)
MILLIGANS ISLAND
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aldo
3 Mar 2016, 10:41 PM
Lawwell is Desmond's man. Who else does Desmond call upon for reports? Who else would he ask "why are results so bad/attendances continuing to fall/that Swedish fella Donny not doing his fist roaring thing any more"? I fear Desmond may not have a clue about how bad things are, if he's relying on Lawwell to keep him in the picture.

Dermot sets policy. Lawwell delivers it.

This notion that dermot is going to ride to the rescue somehow is fanciful. They may disagree on a managerial choice for instance but mostly they are on the same page.
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Mackin
4 Mar 2016, 09:07 AM
Celtic FC currently has:

A Tory Lord on the board
A Tory party advisor on the board
A Tory party donor as largest shareholder
A chairman who accused large numbers of fans of racism
A convicted racist
A convicted homophobe
A convicted drunk driver
Another player, albeit one out on loan, awaiting trial for assault.
You forgot Brian Wilson :carrot:
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Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
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4 Mar 2016, 10:08 AM
Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
Would it make any real difference?

If he was actually going to do anything about this situation, he'd be doing it.

He's concentrating on keeping Scotland's path to the CL open :doh: :ffs: :chuffed: :potm:
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And still not a word from them.
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4 Mar 2016, 10:36 AM
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4 Mar 2016, 10:08 AM
Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
Would it make any real difference?

If he was actually going to do anything about this situation, he'd be doing it.

He's concentrating on keeping Scotland's path to the CL open :doh: :ffs: :chuffed: :potm:
Can't see DD jetting in to deliver a P45
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4 Mar 2016, 10:08 AM
Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
Heard he was away at a meeting trying to ensure we still get into the CL :brickwall:
As my pal who told me said, "somechunt should tell him we have to qualify first" :cuckoo:

As far as him and DD are concerned, as someone else once said, SPLOB's key performance indicator is to ensure that the Gombeen Man doesn't have to spend one Gibraltar Pound on the Celtic :nono:

Lot's of people saw this situation looming on the horizon from a long way back.
A disinterested absentee landlord who gerrymandered his way to a shareholding voting block, supported by an accountant with the above KPI, influencing an obscene and counter-productive (football-wise) personal bonus scheme.

It was never gonna end well, was it?

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4 Mar 2016, 11:51 AM
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4 Mar 2016, 10:08 AM
Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
Heard he was away at a meeting trying to ensure we still get into the CL :brickwall:
As my pal who told me said, "somechunt should tell him we have to qualify first" :cuckoo:

As far as him and DD are concerned, as someone else once said, SPLOB's key performance indicator is to ensure that the Gombeen Man doesn't have to spend one Gibraltar Pound on the Celtic :nono:

Lot's of people saw this situation looming on the horizon from a long way back.
A disinterested absentee landlord who gerrymandered his way to a shareholding voting block, supported by an accountant with the above KPI, influencing an obscene and counter-productive (football-wise) personal bonus scheme.

It was never gonna end well, was it?

It hasn't ended yet.
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georgiesleftpeg
4 Mar 2016, 11:51 AM
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4 Mar 2016, 10:08 AM
Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
Heard he was away at a meeting trying to ensure we still get into the CL :brickwall:
As my pal who told me said, "somechunt should tell him we have to qualify first" :cuckoo:

As far as him and DD are concerned, as someone else once said, SPLOB's key performance indicator is to ensure that the Gombeen Man doesn't have to spend one Gibraltar Pound on the Celtic :nono:

Lot's of people saw this situation looming on the horizon from a long way back.
A disinterested absentee landlord who gerrymandered his way to a shareholding voting block, supported by an accountant with the above KPI, influencing an obscene and counter-productive (football-wise) personal bonus scheme.

It was never gonna end well, was it?

I am no fan of PL but whatever anyone says DD has put more personally into Celtic than anyone in its history

I suspect that the rise of the EPL, closed shop nature of the latter stages of the CL, the withering on the vine of the Europa League, the growth of the finances in the championship and foreign ownership of the clubs in this league, the ECA and the shenanigans at UEFA and FIFA have been the focus of our board as they scramble for a "corporate" solution for Celtic. What with the hun fiasco too it is not surprising that they have completely effed up football.

If you place all the power into the hands of one man on all of the above and he has no intention to bring in a support structure worthy of the name to which he can delegate you are asking for trouble.

PL may well deliver a corporate solution for celtic or at the very least a corporate solution for himself but there has been complete negligence on the football department. They have bought a corporate spiel from RD that plays to the same pitches they all get in their business life.

I'll work harder than previous guys, i'll accept direction (ie suck it up on transfers and budgets) i'll bring in fabby sports science and motivational skills and im a really nice guy who has no baggage

brilliant lets give him two other guys who we can control and who spend more time on sit ups than in the pub

And the rest is history

Managing decline don't feed me that shampoo their negligence has accelerated decline to the point where it'll have to be some effin corporate rabbit to pull us back from this mess
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Thinking, maybe the plan is to be as shampoo as SPL and possibly a new club next season, make it competitive, bums on seats every week, a hairbrained plan to increase match day income.

Would explain the buy Scottish policy and sticking with Ronny.

Mad? Aye but the current situation is mad.
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4 Mar 2016, 11:51 AM
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4 Mar 2016, 10:08 AM
Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
Heard he was away at a meeting trying to ensure we still get into the CL :brickwall:
As my pal who told me said, "somechunt should tell him we have to qualify first" :cuckoo:

As far as him and DD are concerned, as someone else once said, SPLOB's key performance indicator is to ensure that the Gombeen Man doesn't have to spend one Gibraltar Pound on the Celtic :nono:

Lot's of people saw this situation looming on the horizon from a long way back.
A disinterested absentee landlord who gerrymandered his way to a shareholding voting block, supported by an accountant with the above KPI, influencing an obscene and counter-productive (football-wise) personal bonus scheme.

It was never gonna end well, was it?

As someone has already said, it's not over yet. We are in danger of missing the boat as the wait re Moyes isn't coming from his side which was why I asked if PL was even around. We really are amateur hour at the moment. We are going to end up with Yogi or Hartley aren't we? :cry:
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4 Mar 2016, 12:09 PM
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4 Mar 2016, 11:51 AM
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4 Mar 2016, 10:08 AM
Is Lawwell even in the country? :hmmm:
Heard he was away at a meeting trying to ensure we still get into the CL :brickwall:
As my pal who told me said, "somechunt should tell him we have to qualify first" :cuckoo:

As far as him and DD are concerned, as someone else once said, SPLOB's key performance indicator is to ensure that the Gombeen Man doesn't have to spend one Gibraltar Pound on the Celtic :nono:

Lot's of people saw this situation looming on the horizon from a long way back.
A disinterested absentee landlord who gerrymandered his way to a shareholding voting block, supported by an accountant with the above KPI, influencing an obscene and counter-productive (football-wise) personal bonus scheme.

It was never gonna end well, was it?

I am no fan of PL but whatever anyone says DD has put more personally into Celtic than anyone in its history

I suspect that the rise of the EPL, closed shop nature of the latter stages of the CL, the withering on the vine of the Europa League, the growth of the finances in the championship and foreign ownership of the clubs in this league, the ECA and the shenanigans at UEFA and FIFA have been the focus of our board as they scramble for a "corporate" solution for Celtic. What with the hun fiasco too it is not surprising that they have completely effed up football.

If you place all the power into the hands of one man on all of the above and he has no intention to bring in a support structure worthy of the name to which he can delegate you are asking for trouble.

PL may well deliver a corporate solution for celtic or at the very least a corporate solution for himself but there has been complete negligence on the football department. They have bought a corporate spiel from RD that plays to the same pitches they all get in their business life.

I'll work harder than previous guys, i'll accept direction (ie suck it up on transfers and budgets) i'll bring in fabby sports science and motivational skills and im a really nice guy who has no baggage

brilliant lets give him two other guys who we can control and who spend more time on sit ups than in the pub

And the rest is history

Managing decline don't feed me that shampoo their negligence has accelerated decline to the point where it'll have to be some effin corporate rabbit to pull us back from this mess
Good post :thumbsup:

Negligence is the key word in that.
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If RD wins the double I have a horrible feeling that will be enough for Lawwell and he stays.

If that happens next season is going to be an absolute car crash. Surely to eff the board know that??
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4 Mar 2016, 01:10 PM
If RD wins the double I have a horrible feeling that will be enough for Lawwell and he stays.

If that happens next season is going to be an absolute car crash. Surely to eff the board know that??
I think the board will get the fright of their corporate lives on Sunday
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If RD wins the double I have a horrible feeling that will be enough for Lawwell and he stays.

If that happens next season is going to be an absolute car crash. Surely to eff the board know that??
I think the board will get the fright of their corporate lives on Sunday
:thumbsup: I really hope you are right but given he should have been out on his arse ages ago I ain't confident.
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4 Mar 2016, 01:21 PM
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If RD wins the double I have a horrible feeling that will be enough for Lawwell and he stays.

If that happens next season is going to be an absolute car crash. Surely to eff the board know that??
I think the board will get the fright of their corporate lives on Sunday
:thumbsup: I really hope you are right but given he should have been out on his arse ages ago I ain't confident.
True but anything less than 15000 in attendance might wake a few of them up. Did I hear the top tiers are open too?
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Sevilliano^^

Desmond put more into the club than anyone else in it's history

Really?
Into the club?

Ok, original share issue, he put in (supposedly) 4mill.
Now I, and many others I know, were able to buy shares at a discount because of the sums involved. We bought in at £60 a share as opposed to the listing price of £62(?). Remembering that at one point the shares were issued at 100 for 1, which brings them to their price in pence today, (usually around 70p).
So, if we were given a discount of £2 for our investments in the thousands, the guy I knew who invested the most put in £60k :rubeyes: how much of a discount did Dick Dastardly negotiate?
(And also remember that at one point the original shares were trading at over £300 each :rubeyes: )

The further share issue (when MoN was manager) was designed around Desmond and his cronies by that well known Arsenal fan, Brian Quinn (sic). I know for a fact that this share issue was an extremely profitable investment, it included high dividends for european football successes (which WGS and Lenny both delivered) and the get-out clause at the end guaranteed that the shares would be topped up if they had lost any value at a specified date. A highly unusual position, I'm sure you'd agree?
Is it a coincidence that since the expiry of this share issues dividend clauses, that the Gombeen Man has seemingly totally lost interest?I know that investors who put in £5k into this share issue, came out with between 25/30% on their money. Factor that up into the millions that Desmond and his cronies (the likes of Eddie Jordan etc) put in, and it's more than a good return.

The fact remains that the money wasn't put into the club per se, but the shares that were bought (by DD and many ordinary supporters) helped the club cash-wise during certain periods, and any value is still in the hands of those who retain their shareholding.

This cult of Desmond that you seem to repeatedly espouse, is in danger of becoming no more (or less) than pandering to somebody because of their perceived/reputed wealth.
If the Gombeen Man (or any of the juniors) gave a flying feck for the Celtic they'd piss, or get off the pot.
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Nothing going on at the club at the minute has me even the slightest bit excited about anything. Our football is dire, our signing policy is dire, our board will whore out the Celtic name to anyone willing to throw some money at us that we can use to pay the wages of people like Charlie Mulgrew and Dirk Boeriggter, even the names we're being linked with as potential caretaker or full time managers, where did it all go so wrong?

Lawwell, your teas out and Desmond can go with you. The complete mismanagement of anything to do with this football club that isn't a spreadsheet is unforgivable.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepkey performance indicator is to ensure that the Gombeen Man doesn't have to spend one Gibraltar Pound on the Celtic :nono:

Lot's of people saw this situation looming on the horizon from a long way back.
A disinterested absentee landlord who gerrymandered his way to a shareholding voting block, supported by an accountant with the above KPI, influencing an obscene and counter-productive (football-wise) personal bonus scheme.

It was never gonna end well, was it?

I am no fan of PL but

I suspect that the rise of the EPL, closed shop nature of the latter stages of the CL, the withering on the vine of the Europa League, the growth of the finances in the championship and foreign ownership of the clubs in this league, the ECA and the shenanigans at UEFA and FIFA have been the focus of our board as they scramble for a "corporate" solution for Celtic. What with the hun fiasco too it is not surprising that they have completely effed up football.

If you place all the power into the hands of one man on all of the above and he has no intention to bring in a support structure worthy of the name to which he can delegate you are asking for trouble.

PL may well deliver a corporate solution for celtic or at the very least a corporate solution for himself but there has been complete negligence on the football department. They have bought a corporate spiel from RD that plays to the same pitches they all get in their business life.

I'll work harder than previous guys, i'll accept direction (ie suck it up on transfers and budgets) i'll bring in fabby sports science and motivational skills and im a really nice guy who has no baggage

brilliant lets give him two other guys who we can control and who spend more time on sit ups than in the pub

And the rest is history

Managing decline don't feed me that shampoo their negligence has accelerated decline to the point where it'll have to be some effin corporate rabbit to pull us back from this mess
Good post :thumbsup:

Negligence is the key word in that.
" whatever anyone says DD has put more personally into Celtic than anyone in its history"

Really ? we must be reading different history then, since my maths are worse than my history knowledge could you simplify and show me how and when

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We're riding it out until the international break :cry:

Gross mis-management at it's finest. Let's hope we do win our next 3 games but make our feelings known very loudly or by not attending :thumbsup:
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