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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,723 Views)
SaMule
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LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 11:51 AM
Kingslim
3 Mar 2016, 11:48 AM
LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 11:43 AM
I don't really understand why people think PL and the Board would be overly concerned about the state we're in.

The state we're in is a direct and totally predictable consequence of the decisions they've made since RFC killed themselves.

The "decline" we're in is the result of the pilot putting the nose down and turning the engines off.

As long as we win the league (which we probably will) and at least make it to the playoff round in the UCL (meaning we get EL when we get pumped by a club which actually has ambition and a bit of self-respect) then it's happy days.

We made £14 million this year. What else do we want?

Through player sales.

We don't have any assets left to punt.
They'd get money for Bitton and Johansen.

The success of Wanyama, VVD and Forster in the EPL makes clubs down south more likely to have a punt.


So, from the Board's point of view, it's full steam ahead.
They wouldn't get tuppence from anyone scouting Johansen this season, and not a whole lot more for Bitton.

I certainly wouldn't put it past Lawwell to cash in on Griffiths and/or Tierney in the summer.
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3 Mar 2016, 11:50 AM
See this idea that as Kennedy is the 'defensive coach' he is to blame for our defending - it's barmy. Do you honestly think Kennedy has enough power at the club to dictate which way the defenders will play? Do you think he has an input in the overall structure of the team and how we attack and defend? Defensive coach will mean he takes the defenders for whatever the head coach wants them to do. If the head coach wants them to work on setpieces as part of a zonal unit the coach will do as asked. If he is aked to set them up man for man he will do that to. Kennedy will have as much power as Terry McDermot or any other No 3.
Are you saying he organised the nights out?
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LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 11:43 AM
I don't really understand why people think PL and the Board would be overly concerned about the state we're in.

The state we're in is a direct and totally predictable consequence of the decisions they've made since RFC killed themselves.

The "decline" we're in is the result of the pilot putting the nose down and turning the engines off.

As long as we win the league (which we probably will) and at least make it to the playoff round in the UCL (meaning we get EL when we get pumped by a club which actually has ambition and a bit of self-respect) then it's happy days.

We made £14 million this year. What else do we want?

Are you a football fan or an accountant? Who cares what the balance sheets says if the product on the park is driving people away? Like any business, return custom allows you to speculate. Without change, attendances will plummet, CelticTV subscriptions will fall (I've already cancelled mine), shops will close, sponsorship deals will have less worth as will TV rights and, ultimately, the quality of player will drop. We are in a very vicious circle, rinse and repeat. Mass walkouts, GTF banners and chants showing our disgust could be a start. Praising the board for reinstating the biscuit tin is just absurd.
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3 Mar 2016, 12:04 PM
LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 11:43 AM
I don't really understand why people think PL and the Board would be overly concerned about the state we're in.

The state we're in is a direct and totally predictable consequence of the decisions they've made since RFC killed themselves.

The "decline" we're in is the result of the pilot putting the nose down and turning the engines off.

As long as we win the league (which we probably will) and at least make it to the playoff round in the UCL (meaning we get EL when we get pumped by a club which actually has ambition and a bit of self-respect) then it's happy days.

We made £14 million this year. What else do we want?

Are you a football fan or an accountant? Who cares what the balance sheets says if the product on the park is driving people away? Like any business, return custom allows you to speculate. Without change, attendances will plummet, CelticTV subscriptions will fall (I've already cancelled mine), shops will close, sponsorship deals will have less worth as will TV rights and, ultimately, the quality of player will drop. We are in a very vicious circle, rinse and repeat. Mass walkouts, GTF banners and chants showing our disgust could be a start. Praising the board for reinstating the biscuit tin is just absurd.
I'm talking about the situation from the Board's point of view. Not mine.

People are talking as if it's obvious that PL and the Board will be "worried" about the state we're in. I'm saying they won't be, because the state we're in is the state they've put is in.

I think the state we're in is completely disgraceful. But I'm a supporter - so my perspective isn't the same as the Board's.

The fact RD is still manager shows that clearly.
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I gave up my season ticket at the end of 07 - at that point I was fed up with what was on offer & the ridiculous kick off times. Just didn't feel it was worth the money.

Fair play to the folk who still buy season tickets, but I wouldn't even dream of giving the board another penny these days.
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I gave up my season ticket three years ago and have only gone sporadically since then. The failure to spend before Karagandy for me was final proof of the utterly stupid way we are run.

Err on the side of doing just enough and no more to get us over the line - I said Lawwell should have left in 2009 when his transfer strategy that year was a disaster. Astonishing that seven years on, he is still here making the same mistakes and is even more handsomely paid !!
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LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 11:43 AM
I don't really understand why people think PL and the Board would be overly concerned about the state we're in.

The state we're in is a direct and totally predictable consequence of the decisions they've made since RFC killed themselves.

The "decline" we're in is the result of the pilot putting the nose down and turning the engines off.

As long as we win the league (which we probably will) and at least make it to the playoff round in the UCL (meaning we get EL when we get pumped by a club which actually has ambition and a bit of self-respect) then it's happy days.

We made £14 million this year. What else do we want?

they should be concerned if season books happen not to sell in the summer......
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If its true that RD knows his time is up and PL is faffing about asking the likes of Strachan to be caretaker then that is a criminal way to run a football club.
Make no mistake, the clubs problems go way deeper than the manager.

PL is a barrier to obtaining a decent manager.

His insistence in micro managing every aspect of the club, esp the football dept will mean anyone with an ounce of sense will give it a wide berth.

The likes of Moyes are simply not going to take a job where PL continues to operate as he has done. Conversely(and the bigger problem) is PL will actively avoid anyone who would challenge his supremacy in such matters.

He needs to go.
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LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 12:08 PM
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3 Mar 2016, 12:04 PM
LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 11:43 AM
I don't really understand why people think PL and the Board would be overly concerned about the state we're in.

The state we're in is a direct and totally predictable consequence of the decisions they've made since RFC killed themselves.

The "decline" we're in is the result of the pilot putting the nose down and turning the engines off.

As long as we win the league (which we probably will) and at least make it to the playoff round in the UCL (meaning we get EL when we get pumped by a club which actually has ambition and a bit of self-respect) then it's happy days.

We made £14 million this year. What else do we want?

Are you a football fan or an accountant? Who cares what the balance sheets says if the product on the park is driving people away? Like any business, return custom allows you to speculate. Without change, attendances will plummet, CelticTV subscriptions will fall (I've already cancelled mine), shops will close, sponsorship deals will have less worth as will TV rights and, ultimately, the quality of player will drop. We are in a very vicious circle, rinse and repeat. Mass walkouts, GTF banners and chants showing our disgust could be a start. Praising the board for reinstating the biscuit tin is just absurd.
I'm talking about the situation from the Board's point of view. Not mine.

People are talking as if it's obvious that PL and the Board will be "worried" about the state we're in. I'm saying they won't be, because the state we're in is the state they've put is in.

I think the state we're in is completely disgraceful. But I'm a supporter - so my perspective isn't the same as the Board's.

The fact RD is still manager shows that clearly.
I agree, Lawwell etc won't give two hoots. They think all will be tickety boo when the zombies arrive as they will expect the "rivalry" to make more people turn up.


We're exactly where we deserve with the calibre of people in charge.
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pads99
3 Mar 2016, 12:43 PM
If its true that RD knows his time is up and PL is faffing about asking the likes of Strachan to be caretaker then that is a criminal way to run a football club.
Make no mistake, the clubs problems go way deeper than the manager.

PL is a barrier to obtaining a decent manager.

His insistence in micro managing every aspect of the club, esp the football dept will mean anyone with an ounce of sense will give it a wide berth.

The likes of Moyes are simply not going to take a job where PL continues to operate as he has done. Conversely(and the bigger problem) is PL will actively avoid anyone who would challenge his supremacy in such matters.

He needs to go.
The fabled strategy needs to go with him. Whoever next manages Celtic needs to be allowed to build a team.
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Desmond and Lawwell are no students of history. The Whites and the Kelly's were a lot deeper imbedded in Celtic and they were removed. If DD/PL don't think the seething anger and apathy won't transform they are very much mistaken.
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It's been said before but one of the biggest decisions to be made is whether PL wants to be Chief Executive or Director of Football and if he doesn't then to get a DoF in. He's doing both with his DoF brief playing second fiddle to CEO and every part of the club is suffering because of it.
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Perry Whyte
3 Mar 2016, 01:40 PM
It's been said before but one of the biggest decisions to be made is whether PL wants to be Chief Executive or Director of Football and if he doesn't then to get a DoF in. He's doing both with his DoF brief playing second fiddle to CEO and every part of the club is suffering because of it.
He should be told to GTF regardless of his role. He's cost us a fortune, his most important appointment has been a shambles, he is paid far too much and he has been there far too long.

Time's up.
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Farkakt AlteKaker
3 Mar 2016, 11:32 AM
OptimusCheese
3 Mar 2016, 10:58 AM
If Mehmet's pal is at the bam up then you'se are all going to look awfully silly.
I'm assuming you are meaning me :ponder:

Everything I have posted is first hand info. :thumbsup:
Well it's not, unless you are Moyes or the person who approached him.
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3 Mar 2016, 01:57 PM
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3 Mar 2016, 11:32 AM
OptimusCheese
3 Mar 2016, 10:58 AM
If Mehmet's pal is at the bam up then you'se are all going to look awfully silly.
I'm assuming you are meaning me :ponder:

Everything I have posted is first hand info. :thumbsup:
Well it's not, unless you are Moyes or the person who approached him.
unless one of those 2 told him
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3 Mar 2016, 11:32 AM

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Well it's not, unless you are Moyes or the person who approached him.
unless one of those 2 told him
And then him telling us would be second hand info. Or, you know, he just made it all up.
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I know after every shambles of a result this page is flooded but its now got to the point where Aberdeen are taking us to the wire in a title race due to their incompetence. If this title race goes anywhere near the last 2 games they really ought to get to eff along with Ronny.

Shambles from top to bottom.
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LambertandButler
3 Mar 2016, 11:43 AM
I don't really understand why people think PL and the Board would be overly concerned about the state we're in.

The state we're in is a direct and totally predictable consequence of the decisions they've made since RFC killed themselves.

The "decline" we're in is the result of the pilot putting the nose down and turning the engines off.

As long as we win the league (which we probably will) and at least make it to the playoff round in the UCL (meaning we get EL when we get pumped by a club which actually has ambition and a bit of self-respect) then it's happy days.

We made £14 million this year. What else do we want?

I agree 100% that PL and the Board have put us in this state by their lack of ambition since the demise of the huns. Ronny is just a symptom.

But I don't think they're not concerned by how far and fast we've fallen this season. They can't help but notice the empty seats at CP and the unrest among those who are there. Lawwell is probably a cynical me-first winker, but he's not a complete idiot. His dilemma now is to figure out how to get out of this mess with his job and hopefully, from his perspective, his bonus intact.
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It's worth noting that, with the club in the mess it's currently in, only one of our esteemed Board (Bankier) could be bothered turning up last night to watch that guff. Looks like our Directors canny be arsed watching that rubbish either.
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