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| The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM | |
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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,415,023 Views) | |
| Stringer Bell | 15 Jul 2014, 11:31 AM Post #41 |
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Getting on a bit
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The first part here is one of my main gripes with the board. PL loves to roll the financial dice at this time of year, hoping we have enough to get through the qualifiers and then we'll buy some players. It's barmy. Spend the money now and give ourselves the best possible chance. Yes, most of the teams we'll play in the qualifiers are diddies, but last season should be the warning we needed. |
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| sevilliano | 15 Jul 2014, 11:40 AM Post #42 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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totally agree on this last year v Karagandy should be a real warning - and then we had a steady management team hvaing changed management and leaving RD hanging out there does not appear to be backing him but rather the usual PL roulette |
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| yaweedurty | 15 Jul 2014, 11:46 AM Post #43 |
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First team training
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Given Celtics charitable contributions and a the majority of the working class fans that pretty deplorable. |
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| Midfield Maestro | 15 Jul 2014, 11:47 AM Post #44 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Bang on in relation to spending v attendances.
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| ChillerBee | 15 Jul 2014, 11:48 AM Post #45 |
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Time for the medicine
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Relatively happy. I would like to see increased investment in the academy, though. Slightly over a million pounds p/a isn't a particularly significant investment for a club of our size. |
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| Corky Buczek | 15 Jul 2014, 11:49 AM Post #46 |
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Trolololo
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I would argue :- Johansen & Griffiths are not replacements for either Wanyama or Hooper - totally different type of players |
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| Shuggie Edvaldsson | 15 Jul 2014, 12:25 PM Post #47 |
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Club Captain
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This maybe? Was all I could find. Seems like a good idea. Definitely one for the long term, though. |
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| Dannybhoy95 | 15 Jul 2014, 12:32 PM Post #48 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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We could do much better. Wouldn't give an eff if Lawwell left. He's done an excellent job in completely dwarfing fan expectations. |
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| colwell1888 | 15 Jul 2014, 12:33 PM Post #49 |
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First team training
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Aye but they've replaced them in the starting 11. |
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| popeyed | 15 Jul 2014, 12:57 PM Post #50 |
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Climbing walls while sittin' in a chair.
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He'll be waiting on his testimonial. Lawwell's Lions vs an Olivier Kapo XI. |
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| Ben Kenobi | 15 Jul 2014, 01:02 PM Post #51 |
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Auld Hermit
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It's been mentioned before but worth pointing out again; VVD wasn't brought in as Wilson's replacement. |
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| Corky Buczek | 15 Jul 2014, 01:14 PM Post #52 |
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Trolololo
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He got one when he "knocked back" the Arsenal job. Got an LTIP payment of £650k in 2011 on top of salary and other bonuses |
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| McStay | 15 Jul 2014, 01:17 PM Post #53 |
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Espanyolification
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Which team is Ljungberg playing for? |
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| Mrs HF4Ls Biggest fan | 15 Jul 2014, 01:35 PM Post #54 |
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Formerly M74 Extension
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Generally we are well run. However, some of the decisions that have been taken are short sighted at best. As others have mentioned, last season failing to sign anyone before the qualifiers was a huge risk that was a shot off the woodwork away from causing us to miss out on the CL. Mental decision in my view. We then had Lennon talking about getting deals done at the January window so the same thing didn't happen. Maybe I missed all those first team ready players we signed in January. Then it was we will get them done early in the window. Except the manager left and we haven't signed anyone bar a new second choice keeper. So basically we are repeating the approach to the qualifiers.My other complaints on the signing front are two fold. We have thrown a great deal of money away on a number of (cliche alert) works in progress. Rolling that money in to one proper signing would have been a better approach. It certainly couldn't have been worse. The other complaint is the lack of imagination and slavishly following the buy them cheap/sell them on option. There has to be the possibility of picking up the odd experienced player, even if it is own loan. That would help bring on the team as a whole. Both of those would also help arrest the decline in attendance. If the board don't watch, they could have a vicious circle of declining ticket sales, no CL, falling turnover etc etc etc |
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| kingbhoyd | 15 Jul 2014, 01:39 PM Post #55 |
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First-team captain
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The Ltip was payable at the end of four years, so the agreement predated his salary increase. There was an additional amount agreed after he turned down the arsenal job but he was due a large payout as part of a standard agreement that Eric Riley also benefitted from |
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| duffsticks | 15 Jul 2014, 01:46 PM Post #56 |
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Cheap aftershave and bullshampoo
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Pah, I don't read threads before weighing in with my ill-considered opinion. That's for wimps. |
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| Corky Buczek | 15 Jul 2014, 02:01 PM Post #57 |
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Trolololo
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Fine it wasn't for "knocking back" the Arsenal gig. A totally OTT payment none the less for merely staying to do his job :rolleyes: Edited by Corky Buczek, 15 Jul 2014, 02:04 PM.
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| Auldyin | 15 Jul 2014, 02:53 PM Post #58 |
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Considering retirement
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On the Living Wage I missed out on the background and reasons when it all took place. Recently someone suggested they would be happy to pay for it via an increase in their ST and I thought that the cost of doing it and the funding of that cost was missing from the resolution which said: ” 11. This AGM instructs the PLC Board to take all necessary steps to make Celtic Football Club a Living Wage employer by ensuring that all employees are paid a minimum rate of £7.45 per hour and to upgrade this annually in line with the Scottish Living Wage Campaign recommendations. Celtic FC would become the first football club in the UK to do so and will set an example to both sporting employers and the wider business community in the country.” The actual cost was not established beforehand but the following Resolution would cover the point to fund via the season ticket. ” 11. This AGM instructs the PLC Board to make Celtic Football Club a Living Wage employer by ensuring that all employees are paid a minimum rate of £X.XX (7.45) per hour funded by a corresponding increase on individual tickets spread across the adult ticket range and to upgrade the Living Wage and the cost of doing so annually in line with the Scottish Living Wage Campaign recommendations. If Ticket sale income drops below the cost of funding a Living Wage in year one and subsequent annual increases then the Living Wage or annual increase will not be implemented in that sales season. Celtic FC would become the first football club in the UK to do so and will set an example to sporting employers, other clubs and the wider business community in the country. Celtic would then be in a position in their response to indicate to shareholders how much tickets would increase by and shareholders could vote in the knowledge of the cost to them of what they were committing the club to do. Alternatively you fund payment from CL Group stage money in the form of an end of season bonus equivalent to what anyone below the Living wage would have got had it been in force in that season year ending. Whatever way you slice and dice it the cost and funding has to be part of the debate rather than the club taking the necessary steps with no feel for how they would be received. As a shareholder I would want all the information before deciding which way to vote so that I knew what I was voting for. |
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| Stephane_Mahe | 15 Jul 2014, 03:10 PM Post #59 |
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Getting on a bit
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As frustrating as it is, it's hard to argue against the conservative way that we operate in the transfer market. The one change I'd like to see on that front is the purchase of one player for £3million rather than 3 players for £1million - we are in bad habit of stockpiling poor players. It's the non-footballing issues like the living wage, treatment of the GB, lack of doing anything about Griffiths etc where I think the board are really poor. |
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| popeyed | 15 Jul 2014, 03:50 PM Post #60 |
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Climbing walls while sittin' in a chair.
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Half each.
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approach to the qualifiers.

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