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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,731 Views) | |
| paulfg42 | 14 Feb 2016, 11:23 PM Post #5821 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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It's nothing to do with the power brokers. It's to do with fans wanting a different challenge and some entertainment, never mind the finances to improve the team. |
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| station | 14 Feb 2016, 11:31 PM Post #5822 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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They don't give a s--- about fans , corporate capitalism that gets bigger and bigger . |
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| J_C_X | 15 Feb 2016, 12:16 AM Post #5823 |
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Considering retirement
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If dealing with viewimg figures in the domestic market (we're in the same market as the EPL teams) about the Champions League, then ours (and Deidco) were actually quite respectable in the CL compared to the English teams. If the European clubs take this as barometer for admittance to the "super league", then outside the top 4 of the EPL I'd fancy our chances of being admitted over most of the EPL. |
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| greenwhiteandold | 15 Feb 2016, 08:01 AM Post #5824 |
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Getting noticed in the reserves
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Are you saying if fans of clubs from small countries with limited market ( viewing) potential want new challenges and better entertainment that they can influence the rights/contracts/wishes of multinational tv companies for a place at or near the top table ? that is not the way these guys operate , they are looking for maximum exposure , sponsorship and profit |
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| Farkakt AlteKaker | 15 Feb 2016, 10:09 AM Post #5825 |
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Crowded elevators smell different to midgets
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Why is it irrelevent? You'd want a packed venue for atmosphere. We provide that home and away for big games. With the money we have available at the moment, I would ask you to go to any Irish pub or supporters club in the world and you will see them filled to the rafters when a big game is on. That's a huge TV audience right there and throw into the mix the high end opposition and TV figures go through the roof. Give us a slice of the the money and see us disappear over the hill. Believe it or not, we are very much still a household name and very recogniseable by our colours. It's a no brainer. It's also a lot of rubbish and will never happen although I'd love it if it does. Celtic, Europe's elite. I like the sound of that
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| Hairytoes | 15 Feb 2016, 10:11 AM Post #5826 |
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First-team captain
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If we did get an invite to play in this top 20 thing, as opposed to being required to beat Malmo, Maribor or Legia to gain the chance of playing big clubs - what would the fans choose? If the opportunity actually arose, for some strange reason. I think I know what PL & the Club would choose. |
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| Farkakt AlteKaker | 15 Feb 2016, 10:32 AM Post #5827 |
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Crowded elevators smell different to midgets
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If the world is going to hell in a hand basket then I would pefer front row seats so deal me in. |
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| Farkakt AlteKaker | 15 Feb 2016, 10:33 AM Post #5828 |
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Crowded elevators smell different to midgets
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| Forza | 15 Feb 2016, 10:44 AM Post #5829 |
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Considering retirement
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Peter Lawwell is on the ECA Executive Board. He should be well aware of what the ECA is planning. That is very different from being in a position to directly influence things. The nonsense spouted by Rummenigge and Agnelli is embarrassing. Given the clubs they represent it doesn't surprise me though. Agnelli heads a club that directly bought off referees not so long ago. That he is allowed anywhere near the decision making process is a total embarrassment to anyone with the interests of the game at heart. He fronts a truly horrible football club. His pronouncements are very much in keeping with that delusional mob. The problems at FIFA provide the perfect smokescreen for the ECA to force changes through at UEFA, as it is a bit rudderless at present. Plenty of influence can be promised to Infantino in his bid to get elected as FIFA President by influential members of the ECA in return for a blank sheet of paper to reform a closed shop, automatic access Champions League, built for TV, built for viewers in Asia. The overriding motive of the biggest clubs in the game are simply money and are therefore pretty sinister. Like they don't already have enough. No one appears willing or organised enough to attempt to resist their relentless pursuit of ever greater access, increased media values and cutting off a genuine route to the top table for clubs who win their national leagues. That link should never be broken and should never be dictated by the size of a media market. As a sport, football needs to be a meritocracy, otherwise no matter how long it takes, people will eventually lose interest. Edited by Forza, 15 Feb 2016, 10:46 AM.
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| Dannybhoy95 | 15 Feb 2016, 11:24 AM Post #5830 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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Don't think WBA and Stoke. Think more Everton and Spurs. The teams on the cusp of the 'top 4' will rightly go rogue if Chelsea can theoretically finish 15th and still be rewarded with a Super League Place. Funnily enough, I personally find AC Milan's sense of entitlement hilarious. They act like wee bitches despite the fact their whole operation was funded by 'unfair means'. Edited by Dannybhoy95, 15 Feb 2016, 11:24 AM.
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| georgiesleftpeg | 15 Feb 2016, 08:38 PM Post #5831 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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If Everton are taken over by new US owners, how many EPL sides will be stateside owned? If you then add them to the other foreign owners of clubs, will the EPL be majority foreign owned? Asking questions out loud, because if the EPL becomes US owner driven (supported by the other johnny foreigners) will they try and implement a non relegation/promotion set-up, like the rest of the major US sports 'franchises'? As I say, just thinking out loud, but maybes they'd be prone to inviting the famous Glasgow Celtic on board, to represent the Scottish/Irish, Eastern Seaboard/Irish demographic? One can but dream... |
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| IainG | 16 Feb 2016, 03:42 PM Post #5832 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Outright,.... Villa, Liverpool,Man Utd and Sunderland.I think the majority Arsenal shareholder is also an American. Pretty sure the majority of EPL clubs are either foreign owned or the majority shareholders are foreign. The second part of your question is unlikely imo. Nice dream though.
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| stibhan | 17 Feb 2016, 10:30 PM Post #5833 |
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Viva la Quinta Brigada
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http://m.thedrum.com/news/2016/02/16/celtics-rumoured-sponsorship-deal-dafabet-could-help-club-narrow-gap-europes-elite What's the feelings on this? |
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| arklys | 17 Feb 2016, 10:52 PM Post #5834 |
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i'm not even listening
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Not sure how this goes with the "Europe's elite" angle... I know this is football in the 21st century we're talking about but, eugh The piece seems to be a combination of truisms (more money than we have now = tiny decrease in the gap between us and those with the obscene wealth) and some kind of advert for the betting company or the management of Celtic's commercial arm. And this muppet doesn't know the difference between "comparable" and "comparative". |
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| jamiebhoy76 | 18 Feb 2016, 10:33 AM Post #5835 |
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Club Captain
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I only just realised that Lawwell was the financial controller at Celtic in the early 90's before the takeover. That explains a lot. |
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| duffsticks | 18 Feb 2016, 10:51 AM Post #5836 |
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Cheap aftershave and bullshampoo
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Not sure I'm massively comfortable with the club being sponsored by a betting agency. |
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| RoyAitken | 18 Feb 2016, 11:15 AM Post #5837 |
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Getting on a bit
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Out of interest, why? We've had alcohol companies do it. Most of us who go to the games, would probably participate in a wee drink and a coupon.
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| fatboab | 18 Feb 2016, 11:18 AM Post #5838 |
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Just before the Dawn
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It's an uncomfortable truth that gambling and alcohol companies are a necessary evil in modern day advertising. We can't afford to be too choosy when it comes to securing the best deal possible from a commercial point of view. Indeed, we have been sponsored by alcohol companies for a long time without too much opposition, so a company like Dafabet ( who I have never heard of being a non gambling sort) shouldn't be too morally repugnant for the average supporter. I have long criticised Lawwell for being parochial in his quest for decent sponsors, so it would be hypocritical of me to oppose this move, given it sounds as if it will be financially rewarding for Celtic, and also it finally drives a massive wedge between ourselves and any other local sides who may have benefitted financially from our prominence in recent years, so that is a realbonus. Hopefully, it delivers what it suggests, and that is a financial package which dwarves what has gone before .
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| Moey 67 | 18 Feb 2016, 11:31 AM Post #5839 |
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Club Captain
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It will be interesting once this deal comes to an end, and if sevco manage to get promoted (and stay alive) if we revert back to those joint sponsorship deals. |
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| wigwam | 18 Feb 2016, 11:34 AM Post #5840 |
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Older than dirt
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While sitting on our moral high horse apparently. Maybe we should get some really socially conscious name on our shirts, though we'd have to pay them as we couldn't possibly take money away from such an organisation. Sell Griffiths to pay for it and sit smug-faced watching Aberdeen lift the league trophy. Sounds like a plan.
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