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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,738 Views)
lisbonlion10
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Naebody got ma joke :(.....
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5 Feb 2016, 01:39 PM
henrikisgod
5 Feb 2016, 12:35 PM
Do we have any "strong wordsmiths" who can come up with a suitable chant?
"Lawwell, Lawwell, get to f*ck. Lawwell - get to f*ck."


You're welcome :thumbsup:
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I'd love the GB to chant that instead of crap like Efe Ambrose Ballon d'Or.
They'll be feart he sets the stewards on them again.
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5 Feb 2016, 04:46 PM
Corky Buczek
5 Feb 2016, 01:51 PM
I see all the bleating about his salary but that's all that will happen. When the chance came to have a go at the man who gives Lawwell the money in the first place last year - the re-election as a director of Tom Allison who is head of the club's remuneration committee and is also PL's great mate - only one person voted against him staying on the board. Maybe if we throw away the title (no I don't want that to happen) then people will finally sit up and notice how badly we are actually run.
Think it was the bold Harry Brady who cast that vote
I believe it was :thumbsup:
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sevilliano
5 Feb 2016, 12:44 PM
I effin told you so for years :ph43r:

He put all MoN's old guard on long term contracts when he came in - we got hee haw for a lot of them - that accentuated the problem for the strachan years and then he used the leeds hun argument to tighten the purse strings (fletcher anyone) increase his power year upon year to a point where the absentee landlord let's him treat it as his plaything Football Manager anyone

Its like a case study in how to assume almost complete control, get your hands on 400% increase and eff up a business
Concise and 100% correct.

During MON's tenure we spent a lot of dough on bringing in experienced guys, ignoring the fact that their lack of resale value was bound to cause serious problems down the road. A good time was had by all, but the hangover laster for years.

After all the damage he inflicted on Celtic by spending so recklessly, Lawwell decided to adopt a timid approach to the transfer market and--to put it politely--err on the side of cauton. The fact that he still continues to make it up as he goes along--with no coherent vision for the club and no reliable scouting network in place--means that we've stumbled from one crisis to the next, downsizing as we go. As long as the major decisions at CP continue to be made reactively, we will always end up punching below our weight in Europe.
Edited by QualityStreet1970, 6 Feb 2016, 08:56 PM.
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QualityStreet1970
6 Feb 2016, 06:51 PM
sevilliano
5 Feb 2016, 12:44 PM
I effin told you so for years :ph43r:

He put all MoN's old guard on long term contracts when he came in - we got hee haw for a lot of them - that accentuated the problem for the strachan years and then he used the leeds hun argument to tighten the purse strings (fletcher anyone) increase his power year upon year to a point where the absentee landlord let's him treat it as his plaything Football Manager anyone

Its like a case study in how to assume almost complete control, get your hands on 400% increase and eff up a business
Concise and 100% correct.

During MON's tenure we spent a lot of dough on bringing in experienced guys, ignoring the fact that their lack of resale value was bound to cause serious problems download. A good time was had by all, but the hangover laster for years.

After all the damage he inflicted on Celtic by spending so recklessly, Lawwell decided to adopt a timid approach to the transfer market and--to put it politely--err on the side of cauton. The fact that he still continues to make it up as he goes along--with no coherent vision for the club and no reliable scouting network in place--means that we've stumbled from one crisis to the next, downsizing as we go. As long as the major decisions at CP continue to be made reactively, we will always end up punching below our weight in Europe.
What happened at the end of the MON years was an exact way of how not do it. Gold plated pension arrangements for players such as Lamber who got £3M and did hee haw other than get his coaching badges.

However we have now gone to the other extreme and err on the side of doing nothing - hence the failure of the board NOT to bullit the manager after Molde. I have a horrible feeling that we are going to throw away the title - hopefully if the worst does come to the worst then Lawwell's long overdue tenure at CP will be at an end.
Edited by Corky Buczek, 6 Feb 2016, 06:58 PM.
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Belgrano
5 Feb 2016, 04:37 PM
It's a Mars bar to the napper time for the people running our club just now.
And frozen ones at that. :ph43r:
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6 Feb 2016, 06:58 PM
What happened at the end of the MON years was an exact way of how not do it. Gold plated pension arrangements for players such as Lamber who got £3M and did hee haw other than get his coaching badges.

However we have now gone to the other extreme and err on the side of doing nothing - hence the failure of the board NOT to bullit the manager after Molde. I have a horrible feeling that we are going to throw away the title - hopefully if the worst does come to the worst then Lawwell's long overdue tenure at CP will be at an end.
Apologies to Peter Lawwell (there's a first). In my haste to put him down, I blamed him for all the excesses of the MON era--Lawwell's reign of error didn't start until 2003.

You're right about the other extreme. Lawwell and Desmond seem to think they're being prudent by paying so little for players, as if any other course of action would be flirting with disaster. A ridiculous proposition. In the worst case scenario, the transfer doesn't work out--as long as you don't sign guys at the end of their career, and you have a competent scouting system, you can always sell the player on. You might make a slight loss; or, with the mega-rich EPL right next door, you might make a profit. Either way, the outcome shouldn't have any major impact on the club's fortunes.

With the "prudent" approach, you are really flirting with disaster. Because when that doesn't work, it leads to further downsizing. Repeated failure to qualify for the CL could drive fans away--and that would have a major impact on the club's fortunes.

The phrase "lions led by donkeys" comes to mind.
Edited by QualityStreet1970, 6 Feb 2016, 09:30 PM.
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How do we know that PL is the sole reason for the parsimony at the club? My view is that the only way forward for Celtic is the Ronnie way. Albeit perhaps Ronnie is not the person to deliver it
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brian
6 Feb 2016, 09:35 PM
How do we know that PL is the sole reason for the parsimony at the club? My view is that the only way forward for Celtic is the Ronnie way. Albeit perhaps Ronnie is not the person to deliver it
Is there a definition of what actually is the Ronny way?
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6 Feb 2016, 09:58 PM
brian
6 Feb 2016, 09:35 PM
How do we know that PL is the sole reason for the parsimony at the club? My view is that the only way forward for Celtic is the Ronnie way. Albeit perhaps Ronnie is not the person to deliver it
Is there a definition of what actually is the Ronny way?
Ask Del Shannon.
Edited by Adam Smith 11, 6 Feb 2016, 10:17 PM.
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Yes, bring through Scottish youth in the Lisbon lions format. Really the only way forward do us in the present fiscal climate.
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QualityStreet1970
6 Feb 2016, 09:29 PM
Corky Buczek
6 Feb 2016, 06:58 PM
What happened at the end of the MON years was an exact way of how not do it. Gold plated pension arrangements for players such as Lamber who got £3M and did hee haw other than get his coaching badges.

However we have now gone to the other extreme and err on the side of doing nothing - hence the failure of the board NOT to bullit the manager after Molde. I have a horrible feeling that we are going to throw away the title - hopefully if the worst does come to the worst then Lawwell's long overdue tenure at CP will be at an end.
Apologies to Peter Lawwell (there's a first). In my haste to put him down, I blamed him for all the excesses of the MON era--Lawwell's reign of error didn't start until 2003.

You're right about the other extreme. Lawwell and Desmond seem to think they're being prudent by paying so little for players, as if any other course of action would be flirting with disaster. A ridiculous proposition. In the worst case scenario, the transfer doesn't work out--as long as you don't sign guys at the end of their career, and you have a competent scouting system, you can always sell the player on. You might make a slight loss; or, with the mega-rich EPL right next door, you might make a profit. Either way, the outcome shouldn't have any major impact on the club's fortunes.

With the "prudent" approach, you are really flirting with disaster. Because when that doesn't work, it leads to further downsizing. Repeated failure to qualify for the CL could drive fans away--and that would have a major impact on the club's fortunes.

The phrase "lions led by donkeys" comes to mind.
Apparently it was the Matuzalem-led 3-0 humping by Shakhtar in 2005 that convinced Desmond, Quinn and Lawwell to start pulling up the drawbridge.
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QualityStreet1970
6 Feb 2016, 09:29 PM
Corky Buczek
6 Feb 2016, 06:58 PM
What happened at the end of the MON years was an exact way of how not do it. Gold plated pension arrangements for players such as Lamber who got £3M and did hee haw other than get his coaching badges.

However we have now gone to the other extreme and err on the side of doing nothing - hence the failure of the board NOT to bullit the manager after Molde. I have a horrible feeling that we are going to throw away the title - hopefully if the worst does come to the worst then Lawwell's long overdue tenure at CP will be at an end.
Apologies to Peter Lawwell (there's a first). In my haste to put him down, I blamed him for all the excesses of the MON era--Lawwell's reign of error didn't start until 2003.

You're right about the other extreme. Lawwell and Desmond seem to think they're being prudent by paying so little for players, as if any other course of action would be flirting with disaster. A ridiculous proposition. In the worst case scenario, the transfer doesn't work out--as long as you don't sign guys at the end of their career, and you have a competent scouting system, you can always sell the player on. You might make a slight loss; or, with the mega-rich EPL right next door, you might make a profit. Either way, the outcome shouldn't have any major impact on the club's fortunes.

With the "prudent" approach, you are really flirting with disaster. Because when that doesn't work, it leads to further downsizing. Repeated failure to qualify for the CL could drive fans away--and that would have a major impact on the club's fortunes.

The phrase "lions led by donkeys" comes to mind.
Theres nothing wrong with being prudent, but we don't seem to have the governance or structure in place behind it.
Let's be honest, it was clear to see that the players who've gone for good money had something. In the same way there's not too many who've looked like duffers who turned out not to be.
The ideas right, we're just shampooe at implementing it right.
There will always be players that don't work out but if we chuck too much away on fees on wages.
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brian
6 Feb 2016, 10:17 PM
Yes, bring through Scottish youth in the Lisbon lions format. Really the only way forward do us in the present fiscal climate.
Shame for us then that Scottish youth are so pish. It's not the only way forward, of course.
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I think the success of the likes of Hooper Big Vic VVD and even Ki made Pete and Park think they had it sussed and that they had the Midas touch (5 star song in my head) and every obscure bit of potential would give us 2/3 great years and bring in mega bucks but for everyone that did 10 haven't - but they're still married to their sane ideology

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I'm sick of all of it. If I must do it with the 4 guys I sit beside, we will be doing a sack the board protest, 2 hours before every home game on the Celtic Way. No one is doing anything. I expect to get laughed at, pointed at and all the rest, but, I couldn't give a monkeys.

If ever a board has made me lose interest in Celtic, it's this one. I've had my work published in Celtic the Early years, via the St Mary's Hall stuff, finding out who our first landlord was, through the graves and finding images of the first CP one and stuff that I found published, on the 'fishal site. I also have an uncle who is a Lisbon Lion. All these things would make you think I'm die-hard, but I'm losing it, really, really losing it. I'm just so bloody sick of it. I have had enough.

Anyone up for a few beers before the RC game, then pm me, we will achieve hee-haw, but can at least said we tried. We are being run on a day to day basis, by a narcissistic psychopath and we've been there and done it with that previous family who shamed our club.
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Forgot to mention banners have already been ordered and will be with us on Thursday, so if anyone wants to, they can hide behind them. :thumbsup:
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brian
6 Feb 2016, 10:17 PM
Yes, bring through Scottish youth in the Lisbon lions format. Really the only way forward do us in the present fiscal climate.
If that policy is the Ronny Way he isn't even getting that right - Somebody has obviously given him a dodgy map of Scotland.

Scottish Signings under Deila
Christie - One sub appearance
Allan - Hardly gets a look in
Armstrong - Regressing badly
GMS - Has regressed - Trying hard the last few games but all in all a bit lightweight especially when up against it as opposed to skelping a disorganised leaderless Hamilton.

Non Scottish signings under Deila
Kasim Richards
Roberts
Sviatchenchko
Cole :ffs:
Simunovic
Blackett :ffs:
Ciftci :ffs:
Bailly
Janko
Boyata :ffs:
Duffy
Guidetti
Scepovic
Wakaso :ffs:
Denayer
Tonev :ffs:
Berget :ffs: with us and then does the damage when away from us.


Craig Gordon is no longer a youth and fwiw he is regressing now also.
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6 Feb 2016, 10:17 PM
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6 Feb 2016, 09:58 PM
brian
6 Feb 2016, 09:35 PM
How do we know that PL is the sole reason for the parsimony at the club? My view is that the only way forward for Celtic is the Ronnie way. Albeit perhaps Ronnie is not the person to deliver it
Is there a definition of what actually is the Ronny way?
Ask Del Shannon.
Ooft.

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