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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,761 Views)
murphio
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The Jinkster
23 Nov 2015, 08:42 PM
Lisbon Lion just posted this on Twitter:

http://tirnaog09.blogspot.co.uk/

Load of vomit.
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The clowns who posted the bang out of order tweets and Bankier with his scattergun PR shambles have done a fine Job of deflecting the Focus away from the real issue of Our clubs
attitude to supporting its workers by paying the living wage, to the point were now talking about Israeli politics ffs.

Well done all involved. :theclap:
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fatboab
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I've removed a bunch of posts that don't belong in this thread. Anyone wanting to discuss stuff other than our Board should take it elsewhere. And let's get this back to being a civilised discussion.
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fatboab
23 Nov 2015, 09:30 PM
I've removed a bunch of posts that don't belong in this thread. Anyone wanting to discuss stuff other than our Board should take it elsewhere. And let's get this back to being a civilised discussion.
Here here. :thumbsup:
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fatboab
23 Nov 2015, 09:30 PM
I've removed a bunch of posts that don't belong in this thread. Anyone wanting to discuss stuff other than our Board should take it elsewhere. And let's get this back to being a civilised discussion.
Oops did I start something with my spoiler post. :ffs:

I havent been on since I posted it, so missed whatever was said.

Sorry if it diverted the thread.
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The Jinkster
23 Nov 2015, 08:42 PM
Lisbon Lion just posted this on Twitter:

http://tirnaog09.blogspot.co.uk/

Putting aside my own personal dislike of Lord Livingstone I actually agree that Bankier was aiming his remarks at the people that posted that stuff online and not the wider support.

However, what I find reprehensible about Bankier's remarks are that it was absolutely obvious that only a tiny minority of people had made these comments. So tiny that most fans that actually use the web a lot for Celtic info weren't even aware of their existence.

It was an astonishing strategy to take in defence of Livingstone considering how unnoteworthy the online slurs actually were. Bankier was simply attempting to blind side people in that room rather than face a difficult question about why someone of Livingstone's character should be sitting on the board of a football club established for helping the poor.

Bankier knew fine well how unimportant any online abuse was. I suspect Celtic had to do some real digging in order to actually find these comments which makes it even more sleazy.

He didn't have the courage to face the fans head on and deal with them. Instead, he choose to try and turn the tables on people asking a genuinely important question by hinting that if you have a problem with Livingston - well maybe that's because deep down you're a wee bit racist.

Bankier is so out of touch with the fans it genuinely amazes me. For all the abuse Peter Lawwell gets on here I don't doubt that he's actually a Celtic fan. Bankier comes across as thinking he's above all of us.

Will have to do an enormous amount to recover a relationship with the fans. I can't see it ever happening and if anything it'll just get worse from now on.

There's plenty of other would be chairman out there. It would be better if he just moved on.
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Haven't been on here much and haven't posted for a while either, but thought I'd stick my tuppence worth in for what it's worth. I personally think, given the reasons for our club being founded in the first place, that the decision to not sign up to the living wage and to ignore the fans' requests to get rid of a tory lord who voted to accept tax credits for the very poorest and most vulnerable people in the country is nothing short of hypocrisy. I wonder what Brother Walfrid's opinion would be of this? I heard a 2 or 3 minute excerpt of the Radio Clyde phone in tonight with Keevins justifying the tory lord's and the chairman's position because of their business acumen which keep the financial position of the club healthy, surely there are other people out there with similar business backgrounds who can understand the position of the majority of the club's fans on this very important issue- perhaps they don't understand how important these issues are, and perhaps then it's time the fans showed them how important this issue is to them.

I would urge every fan on this message board to boycott the upcoming fixtures and instead protest outside the stadium before and during the games, maybe this would make the board think again about their stance. I don't know exactly what kind of financial impact this would have as they already have the season ticket money, but it would send a clear message to the board- who seem more and more out of touch with the club's fantastic supporters with every passing year.
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Having just read the statement, I can't help but feel the board have shot themselves in the foot. I fully support stamping out unacceptable behaviour and on one hand you could argue the club is "brave" for issuing the statement but given the number of people this statement is referring to is small, the reaction is OTT.
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tinytim81
23 Nov 2015, 10:32 PM
The Jinkster
23 Nov 2015, 08:42 PM
Lisbon Lion just posted this on Twitter:

http://tirnaog09.blogspot.co.uk/

Putting aside my own personal dislike of Lord Livingstone I actually agree that Bankier was aiming his remarks at the people that posted that stuff online and not the wider support.

However, what I find reprehensible about Bankier's remarks are that it was absolutely obvious that only a tiny minority of people had made these comments. So tiny that most fans that actually use the web a lot for Celtic info weren't even aware of their existence.

It was an astonishing strategy to take in defence of Livingstone considering how unnoteworthy the online slurs actually were. Bankier was simply attempting to blind side people in that room rather than face a difficult question about why someone of Livingstone's character should be sitting on the board of a football club established for helping the poor.

Bankier knew fine well how unimportant any online abuse was. I suspect Celtic had to do some real digging in order to actually find these comments which makes it even more sleazy.

He didn't have the courage to face the fans head on and deal with them. Instead, he choose to try and turn the tables on people asking a genuinely important question by hinting that if you have a problem with Livingston - well maybe that's because deep down you're a wee bit racist.

Bankier is so out of touch with the fans it genuinely amazes me. For all the abuse Peter Lawwell gets on here I don't doubt that he's actually a Celtic fan. Bankier comes across as thinking he's above all of us.

Will have to do an enormous amount to recover a relationship with the fans. I can't see it ever happening and if anything it'll just get worse from now on.

There's plenty of other would be chairman out there. It would be better if he just moved on.
:potm:

Completely agree. The Celtic Trust have issued another statement pretty much in the same vein.

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tinytim81
23 Nov 2015, 10:32 PM
Putting aside my own personal dislike of Lord Livingstone I actually agree that Bankier was aiming his remarks at the people that posted that stuff online and not the wider support.

Garbage, absolute garbage. He absolutely intended to make a sweeping statement which implied that anyone who opposed Livingstone's re-election was an abusive, anti-Semite. In the ensuing furor it completely moved the discussion away from the real reason to the opposition to Livingstone's continued participation on the board. It was simply one Tory Bastard circling the wagons for another.
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murphio
24 Nov 2015, 01:09 AM
tinytim81
23 Nov 2015, 10:32 PM
Putting aside my own personal dislike of Lord Livingstone I actually agree that Bankier was aiming his remarks at the people that posted that stuff online and not the wider support.

Garbage, absolute garbage. He absolutely intended to make a sweeping statement which implied that anyone who opposed Livingstone's re-election was an abusive, anti-Semite. In the ensuing furor it completely moved the discussion away from the real reason to the opposition to Livingstone's continued participation on the board. It was simply one Tory Bastard circling the wagons for another.
I have no idea whether you're at it or not but if you aren't, you are spot on :lol:
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Bobby Peru
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Whatever Bankier's intentions were his choice of wording was naïve at best and I don't imagine such a successful businessman is naïve so for me it was clearly a pretty inflammatory, insulting statement he made.
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Bobby Peru
24 Nov 2015, 11:42 AM
Whatever Bankier's intentions were his choice of wording was naïve at best and I don't imagine such a successful businessman is naïve so for me it was clearly a pretty inflammatory, insulting statement he made.
We're great at making an arse out of things that we shouldn't be making an arse of.
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Bet it was Lawwell that appointed Bankier...

Get lawwell to eff.

He has got off very lighly at AGM and since then. The swine.
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I notice Dermot Desmond managed to attend Ladbrokes AGM today he couldn´t be arsed to turn up at ours!

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/uk-coral-m-a-ladbrokes-meeting-idUKKBN0TD1JE20151124
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tenerifetim
24 Nov 2015, 09:13 PM
I notice Dermot Desmond managed to attend Ladbrokes AGM today he couldn´t be arsed to turn up at ours!

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/uk-coral-m-a-ladbrokes-meeting-idUKKBN0TD1JE20151124
Widespread acceptance that the ladbrokes board and management are not good enough. :suspect:

Could say that about another company DD has shares in.
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It wiznae me!
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Tiny Tim
24 Nov 2015, 11:51 AM
Bobby Peru
24 Nov 2015, 11:42 AM
Whatever Bankier's intentions were his choice of wording was naïve at best and I don't imagine such a successful businessman is naïve so for me it was clearly a pretty inflammatory, insulting statement he made.
We're great at making an arse out of things that we shouldn't be making an arse of.
The Celtic way.

Bankier is either a Machievellian twit or just a twit. Either way......
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24 Nov 2015, 01:09 AM
tinytim81
23 Nov 2015, 10:32 PM
Putting aside my own personal dislike of Lord Livingstone I actually agree that Bankier was aiming his remarks at the people that posted that stuff online and not the wider support.

Garbage, absolute garbage. He absolutely intended to make a sweeping statement which implied that anyone who opposed Livingstone's re-election was an abusive, anti-Semite. In the ensuing furor it completely moved the discussion away from the real reason to the opposition to Livingstone's continued participation on the board. It was simply one Tory Bastard circling the wagons for another.
This, spot on.

Bankier knew exactly what he was doing. He, Lawwell and the rest knew fine well to expect it tight over Livingstone, Article 12/the ongoing fight for justice, or both. What he said was crass and deeply insulting, but he knew exactly what he was trying to achieve and how to do go about it, and it pretty much worked. That he/The Board didn't give a flying **** about the glee with which our enemies in the MSM would sieze upon it speaks volumes for the utter contempt they have for supporters and their desperation to hold on to their cosy little numbers. Playing the victim card in order to distract from accusations of self interest dilutes and trivialises racism and sectarianism, and that is an unforgivable act for Celtic officials to engage in.

Week in, week out Celtic supporters endure such abuse without so much as a peep from the Board, who hide their gutlessness behind the suggestion that they cannot complain due to the handful of (innappropriate) Rebs a tiny minority of Celts sing. For years, too, they have turned a deaf ear while huns of every hue engage in a campaign to systematically besmirch Jock Stein, and mock the Famine. They have done eff all to stand up against these outrages, but are all of a sudden up in arms because one of them gets pathetic abuse on the internet? The good for nothing, lying bastards. Last year our club was accused in national press and TV by the Rangers Trust of harbouring a "culture of racism and sectarianism" in the wake of the Tonev case. Why didn't they act to protect Celtic's name and batter those ***** down, which they could have done, with RST being a body that is officially sanctioned by Sevco?

This is nothing less than a challenge to us, a 'come ahead'. If we want rid of them we must withdraw our support.
Edited by fatboab, 25 Nov 2015, 10:41 AM.
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aldo
24 Nov 2015, 11:15 PM
murphio
24 Nov 2015, 01:09 AM
tinytim81
23 Nov 2015, 10:32 PM
Putting aside my own personal dislike of Lord Livingstone I actually agree that Bankier was aiming his remarks at the people that posted that stuff online and not the wider support.

Garbage, absolute garbage. He absolutely intended to make a sweeping statement which implied that anyone who opposed Livingstone's re-election was an abusive, anti-Semite. In the ensuing furor it completely moved the discussion away from the real reason to the opposition to Livingstone's continued participation on the board. It was simply one Tory Bastard circling the wagons for another.
This, spot on.

Bankier knew exactly what he was doing. He, Lawwell and the rest knew fine well to expect it tight over Livingstone, Article 12/the ongoing fight for justice, or both. What he said was crass and deeply insulting, but he knew exactly what he was trying to achieve and how to do go about it, and it pretty much worked. That he/The Board didn't give a flying **** about the glee with which our enemies in the MSM would sieze upon it speaks volumes for the utter contempt they have for supporters and their desperation to hold on to their cosy little numbers. Playing the victim card in order to distract from accusations of self interest dilutes and trivialises racism and sectarianism, and that is an unforgivable act for Celtic officials to engage in.

Week in, week out Celtic supporters endure such abuse without so much as a peep from the Board, who hide their gutlessness behind the suggestion that they cannot complain due to the handful of (innappropriate) Rebs a tiny minority of Celts sing. For years, too, they have turned a deaf ear while huns of every hue engage in a campaign to systematically besmirch Jock Stein, and mock the Famine. They have done eff all to stand up against these outrages, but are all of a sudden up in arms because one of them gets pathetic abuse on the internet? The good for nothing, lying bastards. Last year our club was accused in national press and TV by the Rangers Trust of harbouring a "culture of racism and sectarianism" in the wake of the Tonev case. Why didn't they act to protect Celtic's name and batter those ***** down, which they could have done, with RST being a body that is officially sanctioned by Sevco?

This is nothing less than a challenge to us, a 'come ahead'. If we want rid of them we must withdraw our support.
Eloquently put,Aldo. my thoughts exactly for a long time.
Edited by fatboab, 25 Nov 2015, 11:23 AM.
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