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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,770 Views)
JonnyB67
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This is their level of ambition and it is pathetic. They really don't care about the fans anymore. I have spent £600+ this season so far on my season ticket and other games. I know others will have spent far more than that and have done season in season out. It must be getting to a point when it is going to stop.

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jack-daniels1981
21 Nov 2015, 04:45 AM
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21 Nov 2015, 04:34 AM
jack-daniels1981
21 Nov 2015, 04:18 AM

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.....and is partial to the odd illegal air-strike of innocent populations.

it's difficult to decide who is the most vile between him and livingstone.
At least Dr John Reid is not a Tory :lol:
Just a war criminal. Much better.
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Timdom come
21 Nov 2015, 07:14 PM
paulfg42
21 Nov 2015, 07:11 PM
We saw the board's ambition in the mediocrity on the pitch today.
That's how you make a profit every year.
You mean by pissing everyone off by not beating Killie is the way to make a profit? How does that work?
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The thing is the board are engaged in a game

It's a game where they think pl is the best available and worth £1m to keep the heat off them

Pl is engaged in a game where it started with him trying to outflank mon then moved onto a game of moneyball where he picks up £1m a year and john park keeps his job and managers are sacrificed as and when the experiment doesn't work

As he gets wealthier the contempt for likes of green brigade grows

And the need to give Dd his place like letting him pick Strachan lessens

So we get Mowbray Lennon and delia - just look at the quality of who has been brought in - it's a game to him all designed to protect his position and deflect from any scrutiny

But that's why dd loves him cause he plays the same game - let me own Celtic put Tories in charge and keep me from getting any flak till eventually surely I can get to the epl make another fortune and eff off

They are all good at making themselves money whether outside Celtic or at Celtic but they have as much clue about building a football club as the pre McCann board had

The thing is what people forget was fergus McCann was motivated to make Celtic successful and attractive so he made money

Pl isn't motivated cause his reward comes success or failure so long as dd ain't in firing line

Bankier is just the latest clown who knows nothing about Celtic or football - Eric hagman anyone - it's just a game for them no nous no understanding and nothing being built as a football club a business or a brand just the arrogance of we can understand cash flows and a balance sheet big effin wow

How about training your assets in a 1/3 size shampoo pitch and getting a kiddy on manager with no experience to do it

And DD has so much dosh he can eff off and play pebble beach whenever he wants

Oh but it's ok cause we've no domestic competition
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Thought I would write up a few notes on the AGM. I know it is very serious business and all that, but I was mostly there out of curiosity. I wasn’t sure what to expect, but it seemed well organized, the presentations were slick and the business was dealt with – for the most part – in brisk, orderly fashion.

When it came to the voting, Ian Bankier introduced the resolutions one by one and, in the case of the re-election of individuals to the board, he said something about their qualities. He was particularly effusive in his praise for Dermot Desmond. He then allowed a brief pause for a response from the floor before calling the vote.

The shareholder who spoke in objection to the re-election of Lord Ian Livingston presented his case very well. He said Lord Livingston’s “role in society is contrary to the ethos of the club” as his day job is to impoverish thousands of our fellow citizens, or words to that effect. He got many shouts of ‘here, here’. Bankier responded by saying that Celtic's ethos is as a club open to all and that Livingston's political affiliations do not impinge on his good work for Celtic. When he suggested that Lord Livingston was “subject to a torrent of utterly base personal abuse conducted over social media over recent weeks” and that some of it was “criminally racist” I had no idea what that was a reference to and I'm sure most of the people at the meeting were equally mystified by it. The following show of hands vote was apparently inconclusive, so Bankier called for a paper ballot poll to be taken at the end of the meeting. Bankier then muttered that he was 'disappointed'. For that he got barracked with boos and shouts of 'shame'.

Bankier was using very emotive language and as it turns out his words were misleading. He appeared to be reading his response and although the language was impassioned his delivery was completely devoid of expression. He seemed like a very bad actor reading the lines of an angry character. I had never heard him speak before, so maybe he just completely lacks the ability to express emotions in speech. Still, it seemed strange. If he was reading from notes, had he written words like ‘torrent’ and ‘racist’ or did he just throw them in? And saying that he was ‘disappointed’ was ridiculous. It was the AGM of a company, not a high school assembly.

On the Living Wage, Dave Moxham spoke on behalf of those proposing the resolution, stating that Celtic could and should act as “a beacon of hope” to low paid people across Glasgow and Scotland and as an example to other employers by adopting the living wage. He was roundly supported by those in the room although there were some dissenting voices, which I found slightly surreal. I mean, does anyone who was there really believe that the difference of a couple of grand paid to its least well paid employees is going to make any real impact on the financial position of Celtic? I don’t even think the board believe that.

Following the resolutions there were a series of questions and statements from the floor. The best of those came from a man in the overspill room who started by thanking Peter for putting on the free bar in the back room. He asked if young fans’ season tickets could be amended for future seasons to include all home league games including two against a team called rangers should they be in the league. Lawwell said he would look at it. At least I think that’s what he said. Otherwise Lawwell spoke well, although there were no new answers. I think he will be happy to have avoided tougher questioning. Deila was only called upon to speak briefly and gave his stock ‘always looking to improve’ answer.
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May have missed this but is there actually any evidence of Celtic fans being racist?
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I understand no mention was made of Lawwell's bonus. Instead, people moaned about queuing for bovril and about folk smoking in the toilets at half time. :ffs:
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paulfg42
21 Nov 2015, 10:19 PM
I understand no mention was made of Lawwell's bonus. Instead, people moaned about queuing for bovril and about folk smoking in the toilets at half time. :ffs:
No mention of Lawwell's bonus, that is true. The references to queuing for bovril and smoking in toilets were both in the same rambling intervention by an incoherent Invernesian. Surprised that's been picked up on.
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Gsint
21 Nov 2015, 10:56 PM
paulfg42
21 Nov 2015, 10:19 PM
I understand no mention was made of Lawwell's bonus. Instead, people moaned about queuing for bovril and about folk smoking in the toilets at half time. :ffs:
No mention of Lawwell's bonus, that is true. The references to queuing for bovril and smoking in toilets were both in the same rambling intervention by an incoherent Invernesian. Surprised that's been picked up on.
The reaction from the fans towards the board after the AGM was a mix of disgust and disrust.

The narrative was set. Then came that pathetic and patronising statement.

The phone in programmes last night and today's papers focused on pies, bovril & smoking in the toilets. The reaction to the Tory scumbag & and the Celtic fans being labelled as anti-Semites were an afterthought in any article I saw.

Coincidence I'm sure.
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21 Nov 2015, 07:14 PM
paulfg42
21 Nov 2015, 07:11 PM
We saw the board's ambition in the mediocrity on the pitch today.
That's how you make a profit every year.
Didn't we post a £3.5M loss last year?
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So I've been away from this since pre-AGM.

Let me get this straight.

Lawwell has said we can't buy success anymore, like the times we used to use our financial clout to better the likes of Barcelona, Spartak Moscow, Benfica, AC Milan, Manchester United etc etc.

We should just be happy we can win a treble in Scotland, where no other carrot has any money. As we can't buy success.

I guess since we're now anti-Semites (sic) we're obsessed by the money angle. And here was me not even knowing Lord Livingston 'don't associate the club with politics' of Parkhead was a Jew. I just thought he was a callous Tory pumpkin who is hammering the kind of society that Celtic was founded from, and that myself and many of our fans come from. And I mean economically rather than theologically before anyone starts.

Glad I missed that happening.
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Tonus
21 Nov 2015, 10:17 PM
May have missed this but is there actually any evidence of Celtic fans being racist?
Few folk on the HB trawled Twitter to try and find some evidence of this and came up with nothing.
Edited by cfc88, 22 Nov 2015, 01:48 AM.
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cfc88
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Tonus
21 Nov 2015, 10:17 PM
May have missed this but is there actually any evidence of Celtic fans being racist?
Few folk on the HB trawled Twitter to try and find some evidence of this and came up with nothing.
Someone mentioned he was a Jew. That's about all I can see.
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You have to hand it to the board. A full AGM and all anyone is discussing is fictional racist abuse of a Tory bastard rather than the other numerous piles of crud stinking up he club at the moment.

Arseholes that they are.
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21 Nov 2015, 02:04 PM
situation for what it's worth, from what I've gathered / been told.

the very last share issue ( which came to fruition a few seasons back) paid out extra divi's on the back of succesfull CL campaigns. Is it any coincidence that the prioritisation of CL qualification / last sixteen seems to have been placed firmly into the slowlane, if not yet parked onto the hard shoulder, itself?

dividend preference, I think the issued shares were called.

B.Quinn engineered that share issue for DD and his pals, and at it's amortisation period, every participating shareholder was ensured that, if there was a shortfall from the buy-in price (which there was) extra, ordinary shares would be issued to the participants to make up the cash difference. This occured, and everybody was still in pocket (with the share price-paid) and well up, on the divis from succesful CL group stage participation, plus two last-sixteens:)

and therein ended our major shareholders interest.

no divi's at stake for him and his cronies (E.Jordan and the like), no more MON inspired pipe-dreams of entry to the EPL, and Desmond now prides himself on telling all his rollin'rich buddies on the golf course how he owns the only major football club on the planet that lives within it's means, like all his other business interests, and sometimes even makes a profit. Like the cat-who-got-the-cream, he emphasises that his club, unlike any other, doesn't hemorrhage cash.

and herein lies our problem, as DD gives not one flying-moustache twizler about Celtic, as long as it isn't costing him any of his more-than-plentiful wedge.
he's still clinging to his idiotic notion of escape from the playing environment d'Ecosse, cause that's the only way that he's gonna be publicly seen to make his prerequisite, which is of course, a whacking great profit at everybody elses expense.

and as long as he still foresees the faintest possibility of SPLexit, and we as a club continue to chunter along turning over the odd coin or two, then the only way he (and all of the proxies he brought on board for dividend preference) is gonna sell up and walk away, is if he can be seen to have made a good profit on his football club:(

Sadly this is a good summary of where I think we are. :thumbsup:

Cant see it changing for a long time, dd happy to plod on year after year like this.

Horrible situation.
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22 Nov 2015, 01:47 AM
Tonus
21 Nov 2015, 10:17 PM
May have missed this but is there actually any evidence of Celtic fans being racist?
Few folk on the HB trawled Twitter to try and find some evidence of this and came up with nothing.
Someone mentioned he was a Jew. That's about all I can see.
The only person who accused Celtic fans of "Criminally Racist" behaviour,was the Celtic chairman!
:ffs:
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"Following the disgraceful remarks made by Ian Bankier, Chairman of Celtic PLC to the Celtic PLC AGM on Friday 20th November, the undersigned organisations feel it necessary to express our anger at these allegations.

"Mr Bankier's claim that fans opposed to the re-election of Mr Livingston to the Celtic board have engaged in 'criminally racist' social media postings is an unforgivable slur on the Celtic support. For him to then evoke the name of Brother Walfrid to justify his unfounded assertion is utterly shameful.

"We are now, since the AGM took place, aware that there were some postings on social media which we condemn and we would support the club, and Mr Livingston, should they take action against those individuals.

"None of this is a justification for the generalised smearing of the Celtic support and, in particular, those of us who voted against Mr Livingston’s re-election. Mr Bankier committed an error of judgement and showed a complete lack of control at the AGM and this is not acceptable in a Celtic Chairman.

Anadolu AgencyLord Ian Livingston of Parkhead pictured with Turkey's Economy Minister Nihat Zeybekci earlier this year
"We would like to publically condemn his unprofessional behaviour and the subsequent attempts to suggest that his words had been taken out of context, as this patently was not the case.

"We call on all other members of the PLC board to denounce these comments.

"Ultimately, we are of the belief that Mr Bankier is no longer able to redeem himself following this attack on the Celtic support, and his failure to retract and apologise immediately afterwards, and we call on him to give serious consideration to his position as Chairman of Celtic PLC."
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21 Nov 2015, 06:14 AM
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20 Nov 2015, 07:58 PM
Going by recent events the club view the support as smelly racists.
Well im not. One of my favourite deodorants is Lynx Africa.
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22 Nov 2015, 04:43 PM

"Following the disgraceful remarks made by Ian Bankier, Chairman of Celtic PLC to the Celtic PLC AGM on Friday 20th November, the undersigned organisations feel it necessary to express our anger at these allegations.

"Mr Bankier's claim that fans opposed to the re-election of Mr Livingston to the Celtic board have engaged in 'criminally racist' social media postings is an unforgivable slur on the Celtic support. For him to then evoke the name of Brother Walfrid to justify his unfounded assertion is utterly shameful.

"We are now, since the AGM took place, aware that there were some postings on social media which we condemn and we would support the club, and Mr Livingston, should they take action against those individuals.

"None of this is a justification for the generalised smearing of the Celtic support and, in particular, those of us who voted against Mr Livingston’s re-election. Mr Bankier committed an error of judgement and showed a complete lack of control at the AGM and this is not acceptable in a Celtic Chairman.

Anadolu AgencyLord Ian Livingston of Parkhead pictured with Turkey's Economy Minister Nihat Zeybekci earlier this year
"We would like to publically condemn his unprofessional behaviour and the subsequent attempts to suggest that his words had been taken out of context, as this patently was not the case.

"We call on all other members of the PLC board to denounce these comments.

"Ultimately, we are of the belief that Mr Bankier is no longer able to redeem himself following this attack on the Celtic support, and his failure to retract and apologise immediately afterwards, and we call on him to give serious consideration to his position as Chairman of Celtic PLC."
Where/who does that come from mate?
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