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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,786 Views)
Joseph D. Pistone
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Hinkel's Beard
20 Nov 2015, 01:18 PM
Joseph D. Pistone
20 Nov 2015, 01:16 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:10 PM

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I searched as well. What terms did you use?

https://twitter.com/celticliam88/status/494049917519020032

@CelticLiam88: So Ian Livingston a pro-israeli jew and tory sits on the Celtic board. Speechless. ...

From last year, before the tax credits vote.
Searched for 'Lord Livingston', specifically any tweet that mentioned him directly.
So, you accept now that at least 1 Muppet has.

It's also possible he's had forms of communication other than twitter making reference to his religion.
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nowonder
20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM
Ned Rise
20 Nov 2015, 12:38 PM
"some of the abuse to Ian Livingston was racist"

Racist how? Are the Lords a race?
I saw the tweet mate as well. Our chairman should be ashamed of himself for that comment but given the total brass neck of our board he won't be.
Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
The reason that many Cetic fans want Lord Livingston removed was because he voted for draconian cuts to welfare that would have adversely effected the worse off.

It has hee haw to do with his religion. The board know it damn fine and to try and play the sectarian card in the way they have done, is sickening.
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Joseph D. Pistone
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20 Nov 2015, 01:18 PM
Joseph D. Pistone
20 Nov 2015, 01:16 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttps://twitter.com/celticliam88/status/494049917519020032

@CelticLiam88: So Ian Livingston a pro-israeli jew and tory sits on the Celtic board. Speechless. ...

From last year, before the tax credits vote.
Searched for 'Lord Livingston', specifically any tweet that mentioned him directly.
So, you accept now that at least 1 Muppet has.

It's also possible he's had forms of communication other than twitter making reference to his religion.
Is it then justifiable to say calls for him to not be voted back onto the board are racist?

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Another year of the old pals backslapping act.

I can't wait till half of these dicks are emptied.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:23 PM
Joseph D. Pistone
20 Nov 2015, 01:21 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:18 PM
So, you accept now that at least 1 Muppet has.

It's also possible he's had forms of communication other than twitter making reference to his religion.
Is it then justifiable to say calls for him to not be voted back onto the board are racist?

I dunno. You'd presume there's been direct contact, out with twitter. Otherwise Bankier has made an arse of it.
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Joseph D. Pistone
20 Nov 2015, 01:21 PM
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Joseph D. Pistone
20 Nov 2015, 01:16 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttps://twitter.com/celticliam88/status/494049917519020032

@CelticLiam88: So Ian Livingston a pro-israeli jew and tory sits on the Celtic board. Speechless. ...

From last year, before the tax credits vote.
Searched for 'Lord Livingston', specifically any tweet that mentioned him directly.
So, you accept now that at least 1 Muppet has.

It's also possible he's had forms of communication other than twitter making reference to his religion.
I do accept that, yes. However, I'd also be amazed if a Celtic fan went out of their way to call into question his religion via writing a letter.


I'm not saying Celtic fans are without fault, there's absolutely thousands or arseholes amongst our support, but I think if you're making a claim that Livingston received racist abuse because of his political leanings, in public, to support his re-appointment to a Board, then you should really provide some evidence of it.
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A pathetic deflection tactic that the media will be all over

This board has no problem hanging the supporters out to dry to take the heat off themselves

Scumbags to a man
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20 Nov 2015, 01:20 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:17 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:13 PM

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Yes we know but if some people made his Jewishness an issue they should be called out for it.On the other hand if Bankier has just made something up for effect he should resign.
No one has said if he has been abused because of his 'Jewishness' that it should be ignored. What we are saying is the calls for him to not be voted back onto the board are not because of his 'Jewishness'. Seeing as almost every person who has posted about this didn't have a scooby he was Jewish, I certainly didn't know he was as well.

If one or 2 people have abused him then deal with those incidents, don't claim that the whole support who are wanting him not to be voted back onto the board are racist.
Bankier isn't very good at speaking but he wouldn't claim all criticism of Livingstone has a racist motive,he's not silly.Any criticism that bring his Jewishness into it is unacceptable.Denying that it isn't plausible that they are halfwits and/or bigots on the internet and elsewhere isn't convincing either.
Edited by nowonder, 20 Nov 2015, 01:30 PM.
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remy mcswain
20 Nov 2015, 01:24 PM
Another year of the old pals backslapping act.

I can't wait till half of these dicks are emptied.
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bubba
20 Nov 2015, 01:25 PM
A pathetic deflection tactic that the media will be all over

This board has no problem hanging the supporters out to dry to take the heat off themselves

Scumbags to a man
Well this has been a good positive start to the AGM :lol:
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20 Nov 2015, 01:25 PM
I'm not saying Celtic fans are without fault, there's absolutely thousands or arseholes amongst our support, but I think if you're making a claim that Livingston received racist abuse because of his political leanings, in public, to support his re-appointment to a Board, then you should really provide some evidence of it.
This all the way, if they are willing to make the issue Public as they have done then proof should follow. :thumbsup:
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20 Nov 2015, 01:25 PM
A pathetic deflection tactic that the media will be all over

This board has no problem hanging the supporters out to dry to take the heat off themselves

Scumbags to a man
Well this has been a good positive start to the AGM :lol:
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20 Nov 2015, 01:29 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:20 PM
nowonder
20 Nov 2015, 01:17 PM

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No one has said if he has been abused because of his 'Jewishness' that it should be ignored. What we are saying is the calls for him to not be voted back onto the board are not because of his 'Jewishness'. Seeing as almost every person who has posted about this didn't have a scooby he was Jewish, I certainly didn't know he was as well.

If one or 2 people have abused him then deal with those incidents, don't claim that the whole support who are wanting him not to be voted back onto the board are racist.
Bankier isn't very good at speaking but he wouldn't claim all criticism of Livingstone has a racist motive,he's not silly.Any criticism that bring his Jewishness into it is unacceptable.Denying that it isn't plausible that they are halfwits and/or bigots on the internet isn't convincing either.
Ian Livingston's position on the board has been called into question by folk who are sickened by how he voted in the Lords last month. It has nowt to do with his religion. And I do think that playing the sectarian card (because of a couple of idiots at best) when put under pressure merely highlights the vast gulf between the board and ordinary fans.
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Joseph D. Pistone
20 Nov 2015, 01:25 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:23 PM
Joseph D. Pistone
20 Nov 2015, 01:21 PM
Is it then justifiable to say calls for him to not be voted back onto the board are racist?

I dunno. You'd presume there's been direct contact, out with twitter. Otherwise Bankier has made an arse of it.
In what other way? Someone phoning him to racially abuse him? Writing to him?

If his 'Jewishness' wasn't brought up at the AGM then Bankier is out of order to bring up what wouldn't be more than a handful of cases to distract from the real issue the absolute vast majority of people have with Livingstone.



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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 12:57 PM
Who claimed that the abuse was racist?
Didn't see this on the CelticTV interviews, was it said at the AGM?
You cearly cant discern from his name that he was Jewish, that's for sure, so what the feck is that all about, other than shutting down the channels of criticism re living wage, austerity, etc.
Unless we know for sure that Livingston wasn't insulted in this way then I think we could move on from this line of discussion guys.


The scouting department have done a decent job over a short period of years but we sell the players two, three times more rapidly than we, or any club spending as we do can bring equal quality in. The Board refuse to purchase players with experience which is a joke, it's not exclusively the Scouts fault as the club looks for rookie bargains at all times. The issue is consistently replacing quality with lesser talent if we actually replace them at all. See Wanyama, still not replaced.

Wanyama was a rookie bargain when we bought him.
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Is it outwith the question to suggest he could have been verbally abused at some point?
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20 Nov 2015, 01:42 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM
georgiesleftpeg
20 Nov 2015, 12:57 PM
Who claimed that the abuse was racist?
Didn't see this on the CelticTV interviews, was it said at the AGM?
You cearly cant discern from his name that he was Jewish, that's for sure, so what the feck is that all about, other than shutting down the channels of criticism re living wage, austerity, etc.
Unless we know for sure that Livingston wasn't insulted in this way then I think we could move on from this line of discussion guys.


The scouting department have done a decent job over a short period of years but we sell the players two, three times more rapidly than we, or any club spending as we do can bring equal quality in. The Board refuse to purchase players with experience which is a joke, it's not exclusively the Scouts fault as the club looks for rookie bargains at all times. The issue is consistently replacing quality with lesser talent if we actually replace them at all. See Wanyama, still not replaced.

Wanyama was a rookie bargain when we bought him.
But where is his rookie bargain replacement? We don't have a defensive Mid on our books.

Look at Lennon, Vic was his replacement and we had to wait years until he became Manager to do that!

Cole, if successful is our JVOH replacement ffs!
Edited by Pussyfoot, 20 Nov 2015, 01:48 PM.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:44 PM
Is it outwith the question to suggest he could have been verbally abused at some point?
No. It's possible he was abused for his religion knowing one or two nutters within our support (see the clown whose twitter account was linked) but I don't get why they brought that up. The vast majority of fans that are unhappy with him are unhappy for reasons irrelevant to his religion. Most folk didn't know and didn't care what religion he was.

Just gives the media more ammunition to target the Celtic support much like the hygiene letter a while back. Morons.
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So, everybody's fallen for the Lord Livingston shaped squirrel this year?

Job done Pedro. I tip my hat to you
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20 Nov 2015, 11:43 AM
Manager job is difficult. We can’t buy success so we need a manager who develops players. Ronny does that. We are on course #TicAGM

PL - Off pitch we made a loss but expected. We have no bank debt, over 40,000 season book holders and signed biggest strip deal #TicAGM

Peter Lawwell: this season we've stumbled in Europe but we must improve. But we have the chance of a treble #TicAGM

PL - Were it not for that decision we would have won treble. Disappointed in Europe this term. No-one more than Ronny & players #TicAGM


we cant buy success :lol: thats exactly what we do
The "no one more disappointed than manager and players" line is reeled out every time like it actually changes anything. Scripted nonsense :lol:

I take it there was lots of laughter when he claimed we can't buy success. :lol:
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