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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,787 Views)
ronny_is_not_da_man
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georgiesleftpeg
20 Nov 2015, 12:57 PM
Who claimed that the abuse was racist?
Didn't see this on the CelticTV interviews, was it said at the AGM?
You cearly cant discern from his name that he was Jewish, that's for sure, so what the feck is that all about, other than shutting down the channels of criticism re living wage, austerity, etc.
Unless we know for sure that Livingston wasn't insulted in this way then I think we could move on from this line of discussion guys.


The scouting department have done a decent job over a short period of years but we sell the players two, three times more rapidly than we, or any club spending as we do can bring equal quality in. The Board refuse to purchase players with experience which is a joke, it's not exclusively the Scouts fault as the club looks for rookie bargains at all times. The issue is consistently replacing quality with lesser talent if we actually replace them at all. See Wanyama, still not replaced.

Edited by Pussyfoot, 20 Nov 2015, 01:09 PM.
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If someone who backs the Tory cuts and in turn causing hardship to a great number of our support qualifies as a Race, then I must be racist.

We all know just how removed this lot are from the grass roots of our support, but they still astonish me.

Bankier should hang in head in shame and just walk right out the feckin door and not come back.
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nowonder
20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM
Corky Buczek
20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM
Ned Rise
20 Nov 2015, 12:38 PM
"some of the abuse to Ian Livingston was racist"

Racist how? Are the Lords a race?
I saw the tweet mate as well. Our chairman should be ashamed of himself for that comment but given the total brass neck of our board he won't be.
Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM

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Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
Just did some twitter searches.

Absolutely nowt referring to him as a Jew, Jewish or any of the less flavoursome epithets. There's actually very, very little directed towards him at all.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM
Corky Buczek
20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM

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Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
Maybe but let's not use it to score points online
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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM

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Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
Just did some twitter searches.

Absolutely nowt referring to him as a Jew, Jewish or any of the less flavoursome epithets. There's actually very, very little directed towards him at all.
#LeaveLivingstoneAlone
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20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM

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Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
What are you trying to say .That it didn't happen or that it should be ignored if it did ?
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nowonder
20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM
Corky Buczek
20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM
Ned Rise
20 Nov 2015, 12:38 PM
"some of the abuse to Ian Livingston was racist"

Racist how? Are the Lords a race?
I saw the tweet mate as well. Our chairman should be ashamed of himself for that comment but given the total brass neck of our board he won't be.
Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
Who has brought up his religion? Have you seen or heard anyone bring it up other than Bankier?

He has been the target of abuse becuase he decided to vote in favour of making a secition of our poorest support poorer, not because of his 'Jewishness'.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 12:57 PM
Who claimed that the abuse was racist?
Didn't see this on the CelticTV interviews, was it said at the AGM?
You cearly cant discern from his name that he was Jewish, that's for sure, so what the feck is that all about, other than shutting down the channels of criticism re living wage, austerity, etc.
Unless we know for sure that Livingston wasn't insulted in this way then I think we could move on from this line of discussion guys.


The scouting department have done a decent job over a short period of years but we sell the players two, three times more rapidly than we, or any club spending as we do can bring equal quality in. The Board refuse to purchase players with experience which is a joke, it's not exclusively the Scouts fault as the club looks for rookie bargains at all times. The issue is consistently replacing quality with lesser talent if we actually replace them at all. See Wanyama, still not replaced.

Apt user name ;)
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20 Nov 2015, 01:10 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM

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Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
Just did some twitter searches.

Absolutely nowt referring to him as a Jew, Jewish or any of the less flavoursome epithets. There's actually very, very little directed towards him at all.
I searched as well. What terms did you use?

https://twitter.com/celticliam88/status/494049917519020032

@CelticLiam88: So Ian Livingston a pro-israeli jew and tory sits on the Celtic board. Speechless. ...

From last year, before the tax credits vote.
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Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
What are you trying to say .That it didn't happen or that it should be ignored if it did ?
I'll field this one, Smiley.

Until I see evidence that someone is racially abusing him then, yes, I don't believe this happened.
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20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM

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Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
Who has brought up his religion? Have you seen or heard anyone bring it up other than Bankier?

He has been the target of abuse becuase he decided to vote in favour of making a secition of our poorest support poorer, not because of his 'Jewishness'.
Had no idea he was Jewish,
have never seen it mentioned in any abuse, albeit very little that there has been, directed towards him.
If this has been fabricated by Bankier as a deflection tactic he should absolutely be out the door.
Edited by Beattiemania, 20 Nov 2015, 01:19 PM.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:13 PM
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Corky Buczek
20 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM

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Why ? This is a club that is against discrimination,if there are some people making an issue of his Jewishness should they be ignored or should they be called out on it ?
Who has brought up his religion? Have you seen or heard anyone bring it up other than Bankier?

He has been the target of abuse becuase he decided to vote in favour of making a secition of our poorest support poorer, not because of his 'Jewishness'.
Yes we know but if some people made his Jewishness an issue they should be called out for it.On the other hand if Bankier has just made something up for effect he should resign.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:16 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM

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Just did some twitter searches.

Absolutely nowt referring to him as a Jew, Jewish or any of the less flavoursome epithets. There's actually very, very little directed towards him at all.
I searched as well. What terms did you use?

https://twitter.com/celticliam88/status/494049917519020032

@CelticLiam88: So Ian Livingston a pro-israeli jew and tory sits on the Celtic board. Speechless. ...

From last year, before the tax credits vote.
Searched for 'Lord Livingston', specifically any tweet that mentioned him directly.

EDIT - also, is this abuse? Or is this stating a fact? Is he not a Pro-Israelli Jew and member of the Conservative party (he is both)
Edited by Hinkel's Beard, 20 Nov 2015, 01:20 PM.
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Oh, look who it is. The hero our board needs :wub: :wub:

Can you point to any of this abuse? We all know the reason Bankier brought it up was a pretty shameless deflection tactic.
What are you trying to say .That it didn't happen or that it should be ignored if it did ?
What I'm saying is: where is the evidence, because it just looks like a shameful deflection tactic.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:14 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM
georgiesleftpeg
20 Nov 2015, 12:57 PM
Who claimed that the abuse was racist?
Didn't see this on the CelticTV interviews, was it said at the AGM?
You cearly cant discern from his name that he was Jewish, that's for sure, so what the feck is that all about, other than shutting down the channels of criticism re living wage, austerity, etc.
Unless we know for sure that Livingston wasn't insulted in this way then I think we could move on from this line of discussion guys.


The scouting department have done a decent job over a short period of years but we sell the players two, three times more rapidly than we, or any club spending as we do can bring equal quality in. The Board refuse to purchase players with experience which is a joke, it's not exclusively the Scouts fault as the club looks for rookie bargains at all times. The issue is consistently replacing quality with lesser talent if we actually replace them at all. See Wanyama, still not replaced.

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Yeah, blaming the Board as opposed to allowing the shift it to the Scouting Department or wanting to steer clear of a debate we have no knowledge of at this time.

If it emerges that they are talking pish regards the religion point then I'd be the first to criticise, otherwise I think it's a topic we could avoid. As I guessed it might (a reactive dolt like you is proving now) it is deflecting from their poor performance. Mission achieved for them.
Edited by Pussyfoot, 20 Nov 2015, 01:23 PM.
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20 Nov 2015, 01:17 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:13 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:02 PM

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Who has brought up his religion? Have you seen or heard anyone bring it up other than Bankier?

He has been the target of abuse becuase he decided to vote in favour of making a secition of our poorest support poorer, not because of his 'Jewishness'.
Yes we know but if some people made his Jewishness an issue they should be called out for it.On the other hand if Bankier has just made something up for effect he should resign.
No one has said if he has been abused because of his 'Jewishness' that it should be ignored. What we are saying is the calls for him to not be voted back onto the board are not because of his 'Jewishness'. Seeing as almost every person who has posted about this didn't have a scooby he was Jewish, I certainly didn't know he was as well.

If one or 2 people have abused him then deal with those incidents, don't claim that the whole support who are wanting him not to be voted back onto the board are racist.
Edited by Greenock_Celt, 20 Nov 2015, 01:22 PM.
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Just did some twitter searches.

Absolutely nowt referring to him as a Jew, Jewish or any of the less flavoursome epithets. There's actually very, very little directed towards him at all.
I searched as well. What terms did you use?

https://twitter.com/celticliam88/status/494049917519020032

@CelticLiam88: So Ian Livingston a pro-israeli jew and tory sits on the Celtic board. Speechless. ...

From last year, before the tax credits vote.
Well there you go, the twitter equivalent of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion from Liam88. #JusticeforLordLivingstone
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20 Nov 2015, 01:16 PM
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20 Nov 2015, 01:08 PM

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Just did some twitter searches.

Absolutely nowt referring to him as a Jew, Jewish or any of the less flavoursome epithets. There's actually very, very little directed towards him at all.
I searched as well. What terms did you use?

https://twitter.com/celticliam88/status/494049917519020032

@CelticLiam88: So Ian Livingston a pro-israeli jew and tory sits on the Celtic board. Speechless. ...

From last year, before the tax credits vote.
Out of curiosity I went on to Twitter to check out this guy's timeline.

Turns out I've blocked him. I've only ever blocked 2 or 3 Celtic fans on Twitter and usually for good reason.

Doesn't seem like a good witness for the prosecution to me.
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