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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,825 Views) | |
| paulfg42 | 11 Sep 2015, 05:14 PM Post #3941 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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Revenues down 20% but the strategy is sound? Made a loss because we didn't sell van Dijk? FFS. Clueless just doesn't cover it. |
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| murphio | 11 Sep 2015, 05:16 PM Post #3942 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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We did though sell Watt and Forster - yet the accounts say we made only 6.77m from the gain on player registrations. |
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| jack-daniels1981 | 11 Sep 2015, 05:17 PM Post #3943 |
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Occasional Substitute
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We did as we might have went on to win it
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| kevtic | 11 Sep 2015, 05:19 PM Post #3944 |
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Jam back on.
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| Adam Smith 11 | 11 Sep 2015, 05:21 PM Post #3945 |
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Contract up for renewal, now on a diet and trying harder.
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Not that I agree with full initial argument but what about TV Pool money? This is a significant amount given we would collect all of it. Could have been at least 10 million euro per year using rough calculations. Edited by Adam Smith 11, 11 Sep 2015, 05:31 PM.
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| murphio | 11 Sep 2015, 05:33 PM Post #3946 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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Over two years the loss is aprox £30m. In 2013 - the last year we qualified for the group stages - revenue was around 65m. |
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| Ronny Roars | 11 Sep 2015, 05:37 PM Post #3947 |
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Obviously getting paid in installments |
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| Quiet Assasin | 11 Sep 2015, 05:37 PM Post #3948 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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I can't imagine my boss being comfortable that my strategy is sound if I tell him I've been overseeing a 20% reduction in revenue
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| kevtic | 11 Sep 2015, 05:41 PM Post #3949 |
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Jam back on.
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We did and will make money from the EL so that would reduce the impact of no CL but i don't know how much the El was worth. the Inter Milan game alone must have been worth a few quid. I just did some very rough calculations to show it was nowhere near £50m |
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| jack-daniels1981 | 11 Sep 2015, 05:48 PM Post #3950 |
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It felt like 50m tho
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| ssmith81 | 11 Sep 2015, 06:31 PM Post #3951 |
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Mo..Mo..Super Mo....Super Mo Camara!
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Revenue down 20% ? eff me. I can't even bring myself to read Lawwell's statement proclaiming his intent to make us a 'world class club' and how we all need to pull together blah blah blah. |
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| murphio | 11 Sep 2015, 06:32 PM Post #3952 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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That must be the case - and I guess Lawwell was happy enough to spread the fees out a bit, making our failure to qualify for the group stages easier to swallow when next year's figures are released. |
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| remy mcswain | 11 Sep 2015, 06:35 PM Post #3953 |
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Big in Canada
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May well be getting paid in instalments but that doesn't impact how it would be reported in the P&L account.I said at the time, Newcastle had a huge sell on fee on Forster (30% was number I heard), so that would explain part of the lower than expected profit. |
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| murphio | 11 Sep 2015, 06:38 PM Post #3954 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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When you consider the fee for Watt aswell - that does appear on the low side. |
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| murphio | 11 Sep 2015, 07:01 PM Post #3955 |
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Could start a row in an empty room
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This is my favourite bit:
Not to worry Peter - you sold him this year so that will cover your backside for next year's loss of revenue. Idiot. |
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| heisenberg88 | 11 Sep 2015, 07:04 PM Post #3956 |
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First-team starter
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It's as if he done us a favour that we should all be thankful for. What a ridiculous statement to put in a set of accounts. |
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| nowonder | 11 Sep 2015, 07:06 PM Post #3957 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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What a bunch of ingrates,if it wasn't for the salary Lawwell would turn round and say 'ok youse run it better ' |
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| Lawlerm | 11 Sep 2015, 07:08 PM Post #3958 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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The €8.6m figure quoted doesn't include either the Market Pool or the Playoff money though. The last time we qualified and finished bottom of the group we made €19.67m (honestly! ) in UEFA prize money alone:- €8.60m from participating - €7.97m from the market pool - €2.10m from competing in the playoff - €1.00m for our solitary win Last year we would have made the same €20m from qualifying. That's before ticket sales, increased merchandising and other fringe benefits such as an increase in player values. This year would have been even higher as our market pool payout would have increased substantially based on BT's new TV deal and the €8.6m fee has increased to €12m as you mentioned. As it is we have pocketed €3m from losing in the playoff. Failure to qualify in the last 2 years has costs us close to €50m in prize money alone (north of £35m) before you account for ticket sales and anything else. Edited by Lawlerm, 11 Sep 2015, 07:13 PM.
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| Ned Rise | 11 Sep 2015, 07:10 PM Post #3959 |
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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Would be nice to have a board that were interested in building a team. All we have is a board that likes to manage expectations while running it down through the fasttrack sales of the better players. And now even that's not working. What's left for them to do with this strategy? It's failed on the pitch in Europe (and often domestically where we regularly get knocked out of cups by teams with a fraction of our resources) and it's failed on the fabled balance sheet. |
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| stibhan | 11 Sep 2015, 07:13 PM Post #3960 |
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Viva la Quinta Brigada
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So Lawwell is failing both on and off the pitch... when are we getting rid of this idiot? |
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Another 5 mill. couple of draws another million
) in UEFA prize money alone:

8:49 AM Jul 11