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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,833 Views) | |
| ssmith81 | 4 Sep 2015, 12:48 AM Post #3781 |
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Mo..Mo..Super Mo....Super Mo Camara!
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If there are issues with training then it's inexcusable given Deila and Collins' apparent insistence on fitness/diet. It's the least I expect from Deila's team. |
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| Deebhoy | 4 Sep 2015, 12:58 AM Post #3782 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Glad somebody else thinks this. I met on a few occasions and thought the same. As for Tim Waits I noticed he got decidedly nervous when I suggested going to a pub in West Belfast. Another hun I suspect. El Celtico is another that I should mention - definitely dodgy. Thinks McCartney is better than Lennon. Trust no one
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| FenianJack | 4 Sep 2015, 01:02 AM Post #3783 |
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Getting on a bit
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High pressing high intensity football. The new Camelot. |
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| Wee Ed KTF | 4 Sep 2015, 01:03 AM Post #3784 |
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Considering retirement
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These guys could be the original Mysteron investors. Is Fat Boab Blue Pitch Holdings?
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| Gonga | 4 Sep 2015, 01:26 AM Post #3785 |
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Older than dirt
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Hullbhoy raised a good point on the Celtic Underground podcast. We do now take the pressing game for granted, that it doesn't guarantee goals or even results at times is not a sign that we are not fitter. We are playing a different style that in itself requires higher energy output. Even if fitness levels are improving throughout the team, it's not like a power bar in a computer game that resets for each match, and any increase or decrease in fitness levels is always littered with little peaks and troughs along the way. I said all the way through the Ronny thread that improvements in fitness at this level are often marginal, but over time it will result in more things going our way, not all of the time, but sometimes and that's enough to warrent having a decent system in place. With regard to our current training not being 'Hard Enough', I would ask what is meant by 'hard'.. Technically challenging? Physically punishing? In a long season I imaging that sessions are measured to bring players to full fitness without risking injury. Going hell for leather is not a sensible way to train, you don't see training clips of Barca or Real going through gruelling training sessions. I think some folk still have a bee in their bonnet since Ronny commented on the fitness and nutrition thing while bringing Lenny in to it, it was his biggest mistake yet as manager. A naive and poorly timed excuse at a time he was getting crucified. Sadly it was taken as personal sleight against someone popular, when really it was a guy in the middle of a shampoostorm wanting the fans of his new club to see that he did have a plan. It's totally been over egged, and not by those who back the guy either. I can hardly remember reading any posts proclaiming any amazing new fitness levels in the squad, yet every week someone is questioning if it's working and whether it might prove Ronny is full of crap.. It's the same posters , desperate for something to go wrong . Some seem to be demanding to be impressed by visibly increased physical performances and questioning everything because sometimes we still look tired in a game (even though we do press more). Its counter productive on every level, and doesn't take in to account how a squad of players will always have varying and fluctuating fitness levels at all times anyway.. Mood, hormones, sleep, there is so much going on at any one time, all you can do is put in place a decent system and give it time. |
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| Gonga | 4 Sep 2015, 01:41 AM Post #3786 |
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Older than dirt
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It's the new long ball game. |
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| Gonga | 4 Sep 2015, 01:55 AM Post #3787 |
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Older than dirt
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We really need to get behind this Celtic team, regardless of thoughts on the board or whether X, Y or Z striker is bettererer than Griffiths. This is a young, inexperienced Celtic side that could have some new heroes hidden in there, but at the moment all the positive energy is hanging out with the huns while they pump part timers 5-1 each week. If they carry on they will have a shampoo load of momentum behind them, and would pose enough of a threat this year if we met them. The last thing we need is going in to the start of next season putting extreme amounts of pressure on Ronny and what is a very young squad to get CL football, while the huns enjoy the benefits of some positive self delusion. If cracks are appearing it's because of needless pressure at a time we can enjoy experimenting. |
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| weejimmy | 4 Sep 2015, 03:30 AM Post #3788 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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The Barca result was a one off and you know it. We could play them another 10 games in a row and get gubbed. In fact didn't they really give us a going over the next time we played them. And we know that their players are far superior to ours. So that comparison is not on. Of course fitba is team game and you also have to have a talent to fit into the team. Malmo had that type of player and if you do not accept that Malmo were superior to Celtic in those two games then " end of discussion"Your claim that the Celtic reject was their best player is a joke. You watched Malmo twice on T.V. I take it and judge that all of our players are better than theirs. Aye o.k. then I saw something different and Malmo are on their way to the group stages. |
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| antbhoy | 4 Sep 2015, 07:45 AM Post #3789 |
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Marshal of the Soviet Union
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But what case is it, is it the players not doing the training as asked by the management team or whatever implementation from the management team that is not for the benefit of the players. There appears to be a lot of problems about the club right now. |
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| ssmith81 | 4 Sep 2015, 07:49 AM Post #3790 |
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Mo..Mo..Super Mo....Super Mo Camara!
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Either or it's obviously a real problem. My post was aimed at both cases. Edited by ssmith81, 4 Sep 2015, 07:50 AM.
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| sevilliano | 4 Sep 2015, 07:51 AM Post #3791 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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The reality is the club is being mismanaged by pl Youth development fail - ridiculously small amount of money put into quality coaches at lennoxtown Scouting Scottish players fail - to date we have got there too late on a good number and missed many for that reason Scouting network - mediocre - for every Forster there are 4 failures so we are treading water financially (which some see as success) but Squad value - decreased hugely over last 5/6 years as repeated failures to reach cl (even by way of champions route) means forced sales far too early and inability to reinvest at quality required - major fail And he's failed to do anything about our playing environment in over 10 years Times up for him Quite happy to apply for his job when he goes and share my wisdom with dermot |
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| Dannybhoy95 | 4 Sep 2015, 08:08 AM Post #3792 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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It's entirely self inflicted. The extreme pressure will come next season due to three absolute colossal eff ups from Deila and the team. |
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| Farkakt AlteKaker | 4 Sep 2015, 08:16 AM Post #3793 |
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Crowded elevators smell different to midgets
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Where's Jim Kerr and Bono when we need them?
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| kingbhoyd | 4 Sep 2015, 08:21 AM Post #3794 |
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First-team captain
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At least he'd get a good laugh out of you wasting his time |
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| One sharp cookie | 4 Sep 2015, 08:23 AM Post #3795 |
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Getting on a bit
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Malmo might be the "only game" we've lost this season but that was THE game. A defining moment. I'm fairly confident we could win the SPFL and the odd domestic cup with John Collins, Jackie McNamara or even the bold Ally McCoist in charge! Such a failure, especially when it's happened two years in a row, can't be allowed to be dismissed as though it was just another game or an anomaly in the middle of some generally decent form.. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 4 Sep 2015, 08:27 AM Post #3796 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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Did Barca give us a going over the next time we played them? No. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 4 Sep 2015, 08:33 AM Post #3797 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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'Enjoy experimenting'? This is hardly like smoking a fly joint or taking a sweetie down the dancing. This is costing us big amounts of money and impacting what we are able to invest (as per the club's strategy). |
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| Chronic town | 4 Sep 2015, 08:43 AM Post #3798 |
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the unseen hand
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Players aren't happy with training? The same players who bottled it last week? |
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| duffsticks | 4 Sep 2015, 09:23 AM Post #3799 |
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Cheap aftershave and bullshampoo
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Totally agree. Lawwell has been in charge long enough (more than long enough, given the guidelines in the UK's corporate governance code). This is his organisation, and its failings are his failings. |
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| paulfg42 | 4 Sep 2015, 09:33 AM Post #3800 |
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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Nice avatar but you ain't fooling anyone either. |
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