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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,839 Views)
Zurawski 7
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2 Sep 2015, 05:31 PM

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What if he gets offered a lot less money like others were?
Was Commons offered less money?
aye. browns on less anaw
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murphio
2 Sep 2015, 03:09 PM
Would a striker have made a difference against Malmo? Griffiths scored two goals over the two ties. Scoring three times at home should have been sufficient to take us through. The failure for that didn't lie directly with Lawwell or the board - it was the fault of Ronny Deila and his players. But then the manager was recruited by Lawwell and the players were scouted by his system. The blame must eventually be traced back to him. One thing is for sure - we absolutely cannot afford to make the same mistake three summers on the trot. Some way, some how Lawwell and Deila between them must make sure we are in the group stages next year because we have no one left to sell in order to fill the shortfall.
anyone at all upfront who could lead the line and hold the ball to allow us to keep posession would have made a huge difference in malmo. even outwith his goal rosenborg was fantastic up front for them and he is an average player

the manager and players were to blame for getting pumped out rather than a lack of investment though
Am I missing something here? The reason we got knocked out against Malmo was nothing to to with the strikers but because our pish defence in both legs.
A good striker would have been able to hold the ball up or create chances out of nothing. This would have helped to ease the pressure on our ropey defence. There's also a fear factor that some strikers have that can unsettle opposition players. If Henrik Larsson was playing for us last week he would have commanded a whole lot more respect and fear from Malmo than Griffiths and Ciftci did.
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Just look at the difference Rosenberg made in the 2nd Leg for an easy answer, we don't have a player of that quality.
Because he's not our 'type'. We wouldn't consider anyone without sell on value.
This regurgitated Lawwell chat needs to be swear-filtered, it's becoming ridiculous.
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board discussion?

the number viewing the huns threads is dismal and should be punted again.
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Because he's not our 'type'. We wouldn't consider anyone without sell on value.
This regurgitated Lawwell chat needs to be swear-filtered, it's becoming ridiculous.
Lawwell chat needs swear filtered in the board discussion thread? Right ye are
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2 Sep 2015, 09:57 PM
board discussion?

the number viewing the huns threads is dismal and should be punted again.
This. Looks like we've had our bitch and moan overnight, and in that same time, we've had latest developments at sevco towers, keeping the vast majority of the support nice and distracted. :nono:
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This regurgitated Lawwell chat needs to be swear-filtered, it's becoming ridiculous.
Lawwell chat needs swear filtered in the board discussion thread? Right ye are
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blacky
2 Sep 2015, 09:57 PM
board discussion?

the number viewing the huns threads is dismal and should be punted again.
Perhaps it's a welcome distraction from the self flagellation?
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Well..just got back to the real world after nightshifts. Totally underf***ingwhelmed once again.
I s Dermott Desmond cash rich or just on paper. personally, I think his wealth is "off the radar"
Was anticipating a PL home produced video by now. don't think I could bring myself to watch anymore of his sh++e
sick to death of this Bored (not this board the Celtic Bored)
My wee bhoy was back to his 1st day of school today, came home with a consent form for a trip to Celtic(again) in November.
getting no more money out of me PL. If you wont spend, neither will I.

Here we go...10 in a row balance sheet champions.
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I thought he had a year left. How come Matthews gets punted but Mulgrew remains? Really doesn't make sense at all. No consistency.
mulgrew said last week his agent had held talks about a new deal

His agent will not be able to get half of what Charlie got last time without an agent.

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2 Sep 2015, 10:47 AM
What does Dermot Desmond get from effectively owning Celtic - is he actually making a return on his investment?

In an ideal world I'd like to see the club owned by the fans but I'd welcome any kind of new ownership right now. I've always been wary of foreign owners but maybe someone with cash and the savvy to see how big a club we could be wouldn't be such a bad thing? Pie in the sky, of course, but we need to find a way out of this mess.
Dd thought that his charm and connections would ease us into the epl and making 10x or more his investment if he wanted to exit

Fergus' view was that we should fight all and sundry - we might not win but in the inevitable fall out we may benefit

We've ended up following dd strategy and it's delivered nought as the focus was always on the premier league, then epl 2 then British cups etc as and time has past we've been more and more marginalised

As time progresses and we look back not only fergus looks like a genius compared to current incumbents but so does the likes of Alan Atlantic league macdonald - it's a truly sad state of affairs

I look back to the night after Seville when sitting pissed in Portugal I was extraordinarily proud of Celtic as a club our support and thought nothing could hold us back from being a world renowned club of real quality

12 years later and we are nowhere - well done dermot and peter

Ps wtf is delia thread closed - he comes out with a press release of the height of effin nonsense and thread is closed day after
No hun thread no manager thread

Jeez first they came for sevco thread and we did nothing then delia thread wtf next
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Seems to me that we want success, according to the stuff av been reading. At all costs. We could print money, or find an arrangement where we just raid your bank account an then you refund yer own lost money. Laudrup anyone?
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2 Sep 2015, 11:01 PM
Seems to me that we want success, according to the stuff av been reading. At all costs. We could print money, or find an arrangement where we just raid your bank account an then you refund yer own lost money. Laudrup anyone?
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board discussion?

the number viewing the huns threads is dismal and should be punted again.
Perhaps it's a welcome distraction from the self flagellation?
Indeed, what more can be said? Lawwell is going nowhere.
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Lawwell chat needs swear filtered in the board discussion thread? Right ye are
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Feel ive picked you up wrong. Apologies if so :thumbsup:
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Seems to me that we want success, according to the stuff av been reading. At all costs. We could print money, or find an arrangement where we just raid your bank account an then you refund yer own lost money. Laudrup anyone?
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Great post, that will help keep the Celts, Celts
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Seems to me that we want success, according to the stuff av been reading. At all costs. We could print money, or find an arrangement where we just raid your bank account an then you refund yer own lost money. Laudrup anyone?
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Great post, that will help keep the Celts, Celts
Do you need us to call someone?
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Taking this post from antonrogansrightboot in the transfer thread, genuinely not to single him out, belittle him or anything like that. Simply because I think it exemplifies some of the perhaps "cross-wired" thinking - for want of a better term - that I often read on here about our signings.

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At the risk of going all McIlvaney here, of the many qualities we love as football fans, one you can't really put a value on is hope. We all hoped we would bring in someone that would make us even remotely raise an eyebrow and go "oh aye?" but what we got was far from that.

I admit, I'm intrigued by Simunovic because of the proported price tag alone, but not much else. Allan, Christie, Ciftci... they all look decent, servicable SPFL level players. Nobody that's going to excite like Virgil did, like Victor did.

I always tell my son to wait until the end of the transfer window to get his new shirt so he can get a name on the back of it that's either new and exciting, or someone that hasn't left. I asked him this morning if he'd made his mind up what he wanted.

He said a Real Madrid shirt with Bale on it.

There's the problem we face. We have to be excited about what we watch. We have to get the kids begging to be taken to the game to see whoever it is they have on the back of their shirt that makes them WANT to be a Celtic fan.

That's the hope. This window just hasn't delivered that. It feels like another missed opportunity to kick on.

Just once, I'd like to see us have deals in place before the Champions League carry on. Good, quality, known commodities that get us excited, that improve the first team, not just bump up the squad depth.

I can but dream :/


Were we really excited by Van Dijk when he joined because he was going to excite? or was our interest piqued because he was signed for a decent fee (by our standards) and that there were some positive reports in his home countries media? How many on here had heard of him, never mind watched him play for any length of time? Looking back, how does his signing then differ from Simunovic today? other than that we didn't buy Van Dijk to replace someone we sold for a huge sum of money. Surely, we know that when we sell players for eight digit sums, that those are players who have outgrown our environment - as frustrating as that is - and we cannot replace them with anyone with the same current profile (because these players 99/100 want to move on and further themselves in better leagues).

Then there's Wanyama, I dont recall anyone being excited about him at all, a young guy signed for just under a million when we had Brown, Ledley, Commons and Ki contesting midfield positions. It's clear when we look back he came in as a nobody fighting for his chance, and left as a star player.

Our recent history is littered not only with players who we didn't really know much about or expect much from, but grew into either solid performers or star players. Going back a little further we made signings that were "blue chip", relatively high profile players that provided only sporadic levels of high performance.

When was the last time we were able to sign "Good quality, known commodities"?

In the current commercial european football landscape, we are firmly rooted as a stepping stone club. Why can there only be little, to none of that hope for the seven signings we've made this window?
Edited by Tictical_Genius, 3 Sep 2015, 01:41 AM.
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2 Sep 2015, 11:19 PM
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2 Sep 2015, 09:57 PM
board discussion?

the number viewing the huns threads is dismal and should be punted again.
Perhaps it's a welcome distraction from the self flagellation?
Indeed, what more can be said? Lawwell is going nowhere.
Yep, we did the appropriate gnashing of teeth about 5 seasons ago, not much left to say. No one was surprised by this at all, surely? Untill Lawwell gets bored and retires, this is our lot.
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Taking this post from antonrogansrightboot in the transfer thread, genuinely not to single him out, belittle him or anything like that. Simply because I think it exemplifies some of the perhaps "cross-wired" thinking - for want of a better term - that I often read on here about our signings.

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At the risk of going all McIlvaney here, of the many qualities we love as football fans, one you can't really put a value on is hope. We all hoped we would bring in someone that would make us even remotely raise an eyebrow and go "oh aye?" but what we got was far from that.

I admit, I'm intrigued by Simunovic because of the proported price tag alone, but not much else. Allan, Christie, Ciftci... they all look decent, servicable SPFL level players. Nobody that's going to excite like Virgil did, like Victor did.

I always tell my son to wait until the end of the transfer window to get his new shirt so he can get a name on the back of it that's either new and exciting, or someone that hasn't left. I asked him this morning if he'd made his mind up what he wanted.

He said a Real Madrid shirt with Bale on it.

There's the problem we face. We have to be excited about what we watch. We have to get the kids begging to be taken to the game to see whoever it is they have on the back of their shirt that makes them WANT to be a Celtic fan.

That's the hope. This window just hasn't delivered that. It feels like another missed opportunity to kick on.

Just once, I'd like to see us have deals in place before the Champions League carry on. Good, quality, known commodities that get us excited, that improve the first team, not just bump up the squad depth.

I can but dream :/


Were we really excited by Van Dijk when he joined because he was going to excite? or was our interest piqued because he was signed for a decent fee (by our standards) and that there were some positive reports in his home countries media? How many on here had heard of him, never mind watched him play for any length of time? Looking back, how does his signing then differ from Simunovic today? other than that we didn't buy Van Dijk to replace someone we sold for a huge sum of money. Surely, we know that when we sell players for eight digit sums, that those are players who have outgrown our environment - as frustrating as that is - and we cannot replace them with anyone with the same current profile (because these players 99/100 want to move on and further themselves in better leagues).

Then there's Wanyama, I dont recall anyone being excited about him at all, a young guy signed for just under a million when we had Brown, Ledley, Commons and Ki contesting midfield positions. It's clear when we look back he came in as a nobody fighting for his chance, and left as a star player.

Our recent history is littered not only with players who we didn't really know much about or expect much from, but grew into either solid performers or star players. Going back a little further we made signings that were "blue chip", relatively high profile players that provided only sporadic levels of high performance.

When was the last time we were able to sign "Good quality, known commodities"?

In the current commercial european football landscape, we are firmly rooted as a stepping stone club. Why can there only be little, to none of that hope for the seven signings we've made this window?
You're right. We were not excited by Van Dijk or Wanyama until after they had played a few games. So every signing is a gamble, whether you are Celtic paying 2.5 million or Man United paying 55 million for a player
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